Canon EOS R6 Mark III Resolution Increase?
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Yeah my R6ii is so unsharp, I wish I had more MP so I could get some detail in my shots
Female korimako taken from 1.6m away at 200mm cropped from 24 MP down to 16 MP (Oh no: only 16 million pixels ! )
1/500s at f/4 EF 70-200mm f/2.8
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Or pros don't hate it enough to jump systems and spend tens of thousands of dollars to do so. Declaring that pros use the available pro bodies and anyone finding fault in them is a "photographer wannabe" is, frankly, pretty silly.
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Well Canon listens to their Pro customers and they've dominated the pro market for decades so possibly they chose 24 MP for a reason?
They also listen to their other customers and give them plenty of choices including a 45 MP pro body and a 32 MP crop sensor body and oddly enough their best selling full frame camera is the R6ii and they dominate this segment too.
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The Canon R6iii is probably going to smoke the Sony A7V. But it will have some very strong competition from the likes of the Nikon Z6iii with its partially stacked sensor, 5670k dot electronic viewfinder, shutter angle setting, CF Express card slot, full size HDMI port, and only $2,100 price tag.
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Or, since they've dominated the pro market for decades they don't need to listen to their pro customers because their pro customers have decades of investment and are locked in. Oddly, Nikon and Sony also listen to their pro customers and those pros seem to be telling them a different message.
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Since we only have anecdotal accounts of what 'Pro customers' tell Canon, we don't know if they actually listen. We only know that Canon has been the most successful camera manufacturer for a looooong time now. So Canon could very well be on the "Bad fit for pros, but still better than SoNikon" end of the spectrum, not at the "Most perfectly fitting camera there is" end.
... and I'm most certainly not a pro
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Sure, it makes perfect sense that Canon would decide to stop listening to their customers and rely on their being locked in. Clearly they have led the market for >20 years and dominate it today because their management does not know what they are doing.
And yes, Sony and Nikon also listen to their customers. But they also understand that it’s hard to compete with the brand that dominates the market if you make the same products. Why do you think Sony moved to mirrorless and abandoned DSLRs before Canon and Nikon? Let me guess…you think it’s because Sony is so technically advanced.
Also worth noting that while Sony doesn’t even make an integrated grip body for their pro (or any) customers, they do make a blazing-fast, sports oriented pro-level body…with a…wait for it…24 MP sensor. So I guess they don’t listen to their customers, either…right?
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Canon definitely listens to their pro customers.
We don't get everything we ask for, but we get a lot of it.
It is hard to get a consensus among pros of what we want anyway.
Everyone thinks they are speaking for everyone else, but pros don't listen to each other.
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The assumption seen here is not even "Most perfectly fitting camera there is" but "Most perfectly fitting camera there could be".
It's that odd assumption that "If <vendor x> doesn't make what I want then I don't really want it".
Product designs are trade-offs between many factors, many of which are not factors that are best for the customer but factors that are best for the company.
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So, by that rationale, real pros don't want integrated grips and only "photographer wannabe" really want integrated grips.
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I'm having "flagship" flashbacks. Not everyone in any group (even professional photographers) is going to agree about everything.
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A truly pathetic straw man statement. Or maybe you can link a few quotes where people here claim Canon makes perfect cameras for pros or anyone else. Good luck with that.
So, by that rationale, only Sony users are real pros. Sure, bub. Whatever.
Canon is aiming to please a plurality of their users in any given market segment. The fact that they’ve led the market for over two decades and dominate it today shows they are very good at determining what features their products need to do that.
You’re the only one here who seems unable to understand the difference between plurality, majority and everyone. Might want to consult a dictionary.
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"but I think a resolution boost will be welcomed, even if just from a marketing standpoint."
Yes, I think it's a marketing must-have.
Yes, I think it's a marketing must-have.
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A large lead. In their financial documents Canon reports that their 2024 interchangeable lens camera market share was (2.84/6.3) 45%.
Sony never reports unit sales in their financial documents, but their worldwide market share is said to be somewhere in the 20s%.
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A slight lead in overall sales? Yeah, ok, sure. Seems you also need to consult a dictionary.
AFAIK, there are no public data of that granularity. Canon definitely sells more units at the lower end than Nikon (Sony doesn’t provide sufficient detail). Canon’s average ‘ILC unit’ revenue last year was $1400, Nikon’s was $2400 (that’s high because revenue includes lenses but units is just cameras). However, 15% of ILCs were DSLRs and those are pretty much all very cheap units in a segment Canon almost completely owns, so that definitely pulls their average down.
Regardless, if anyone honestly believes that Canon decided to launch their first 1-series MILC with a 24 MP sensor after keeping the 1-series DSLRs at 18-20 MP over three generations spanning 12 years without input from the target market for the 1-series, I’d respectfully suggest the person holding that belief is an idiot. And that’s being nice.
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That doesn't answer my question. The majority of Canon's sales are from their lower tier products like the R100 and R50 -- irrelevant to the professional space. How many R1 or R3s does Canon sell compared to Sony's A1 or A9?
Sony claims to be the leader in Full Frame sales: https://petapixel.com/2024/09/18/so...t-in-the-full-frame-mirrorless-camera-market/
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Canon has been gaining steadily. Canon now has a solid lead in global MILC sales. Last year Canon was #1 in FF MILCs in the US (~21% of the global market).
As I said, more granular data (e.g., sales by model) aren’t available outside of the manufacturers themselves. One data point is that Canon stated they planned to produce ~45K R1 units/year.
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Exactly my point. Those saying "this feature is because Canon is listening to their pros and anyone not wanting it isn't a pro" don't understand product design.
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