Behind the scenes with Canon CPS at the Paris Games

[whothafunk]

"In past Olympics"
That only happens every 4 years.

Thats why I wrote every 3-4 years (3 because last Olympics were 3 years ago due to Covid). And they last roughly 2 weeks.

 

[P-visie]

I doubt it.
He used a 1DX III last Olympics.
The R3 was a prototype and was not at the stage the R1 is now.
He did use the R3 for some photos though.

Jeff Cable used the R3 at the 2021 Tokyo olympics. He posted pictures and that is how someone clever found out that the R3 is 24MP.

 

[jam05]

A 40% AF success just four years ago.... for people on high bars and a Pommel Horse that are stationary?

Athletes aren't flow posing. They are NOT stationary during the "action" shots. Nobody wants those shots. The assignments are to get the action shots. Too much tv watching. They appear stationary watching tv and looking at the succaessfull shots. No fash is allowed on the venue floor.

 

[jam05]

I am also shocked with the statement. I shoot gymnastics several times per year and my R3 is definitely better than 40% hit rate, so I am not sure what drugs he is on. Anything to boost sales..

You are not shooting 5000 shots at the Olympics either as a Team USA photographer. Post your handfull of "action" shots of world class atletes. I can bet many are out of focus too. Thats why you are not in Paris. Your "hits" may not be acceptable. May have been taken with flash from the stands. People always talk smack from the bleachers. Everyone in the audience always claims to be an expert while watching someone else.

 

[Del Paso]

That's an impressive hit rate improvement from an actual in the field professional.

And some still speak of an "incremental" improvement...
This is huge!

 

[jam05]

The buffer is the main limitation.
RAW + JPG is unlimited at 40 FPS.
They could raise it for JPG only shooters if they wanted to.
I use the high frame burst mode on my R3 so I would use it on the R1 but I do not miss that there is not one.

At a 5000 shots per day rate at 40fps of world class athletes? And delivering the money shots immediately folowing is excessive and daunting. For two weeks.

 

[David - Sydney]

We now know why so many lenses are short supply….
‘Canon seems to provide enough copies of each bit of kit so there's no need to worry about availability’

 

[David - Sydney]

Baffles me too.

The new R5 can do 30fps X 45Mp = 1350MP a second

Yet the "Flagship" R1 can do 40fps X 24MP = 960MP a second

That's a 41% increase in throughput for the R5 II.

Equalising for the R1 - that would be a 56fps equivelent.

I know the buffers might be slightly different, but still....

Could Canon possiby increase the R1's fps to 60fps in firmware - seems like the hardware can take it.

Afterall, there's another 24MP camera out there that does 120fps.

Do we know for sure that the 30 fps is 14 bit rather than 12bit? That accounted for the apparent bandwidth limitation in the R5.

 

[jam05]

Is that 40% on a EOS R

40fps with semi-unlimited buffer isn\'t low. A9iii with semi-unlimited buffer is 30fps. Canon leaves a huge room to improve R1/R5ii by firmware. But Canon\'s track record isn\'t the best....

Actually to the contrary. Canon's track record is excellent. The R5 upgrades created practically a new camera.

 

[jam05]

We now know why so many lenses are short supply….
‘Canon seems to provide enough copies of each bit of kit so there's no need to worry about availability’

CPS professionals don't worry about "availability".

 

[Fran Decatta]

Canon: we are running short of supplies
The supplies: *images of the post*

Of course, just joking.

 

[jam05]

Some here do not seem to understand hit rate and take rate. 90% of take rate doesn't neccessarily equate to fotos merely being in focus. They are shots that are "intended" to be in focus. Because one may have more than 40% of fotos in focus on their R3 doesn't make them keepers and count as a successful take. So what if you got more than 40% if you missed "The" shot. The keepers.

 

[Navism]

The funny things is that he chooses R1 but not R5 mkii.
lens 100-300mm or 70-200mm... it seems too hard to choose.
choose 30ftps not 40ftps because of many photos...

 

[koenkooi]

Do we know for sure that the 30 fps is 14 bit rather than 12bit? That accounted for the apparent bandwidth limitation in the R5.

That's what Canon keeps saying, but this whole R1/R5II announcement is riddled with disinformation, so 'sure' might be too strong a word.

 

[Quack]

... I really wonder if that is an actual technical limitation or if someone just said "640kb40fps is enough for everyone!"

Undoubtedly "someone" said 40 fps is enough. That "someone" would have been the many pro photographers (probably many R3 users) that would have been surveyed.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Undoubtedly "someone" said 40 fps is enough. That "someone" would have been the many pro photographers (probably many R3 users) that would have been surveyed.

What makes you think Canon surveyed anyone? All you have to do is read this forum to know that “everyone” needed the R1 to have more than 24 MP. That clearly shows how out of touch Canon is, which explains why their market share is plummeting.

 

[AlanF]

excellent moi aussi

Hey, you are not @Aussie shooter.

 

[SwissFrank]

The new R5 can do 30fps X 45Mp = 1350MP a second

Yet the "Flagship" R1 can do 40fps X 24MP = 960MP a second

That's a 41% increase in throughput for the R5 II.

Equalising for the R1 - that would be a 56fps equivelent.

Is it the same bit depth per pixel?

 

[Quack]

What makes you think Canon surveyed anyone? All you have to do is read this forum to know that “everyone” needed the R1 to have more than 24 MP. That clearly shows how out of touch Canon is, which explains why their market share is plummeting.

Yes, my bad. I forgot that we are talking about Canon, who clearly makes their decisions just to annoy people who know better.

That being said, I find it interesting that Jeff Cable started shooting Water Pole at 30 or 40 fps, but then switched to 16 fps, as that worked better for him. And he shot the Men's gymnastics at 30 fps. Obviously Cable is an amateur who needs to get some advice form our forum members.

 

[koenkooi]

Is it the same bit depth per pixel?

As far as I can tell both the R5II and R1 always do 14-bit stills.