That's illegal in the EU. Also, coming is the requirement that the manufacturers must allow repairs even after warranty is expired.
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The Canon EOS R5 Mark II will not function with third-party batteries
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I have seen suppliers put encrypted communication and encryption keys into their batteries, chargers, and product.
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I think I never used a third party batteries, so I don't mind it as long I can get right away quantity that I need. I did preordered batteries with the camera so I hope I'll get what I asked for when I get the camera.
One thing I would like is a new battery charger that can charge at least 2 batteries and that is usb-c powered. I currently have the Peter Lindgren tri-charger and it works ok but it doesn't show the charging level correctly for all models of the battery and not sure will it shorten the life of the batteries. Also not sure will it work with the new batteries. If I think now all the canon chargers could benefit from some update...
One thing I would like is a new battery charger that can charge at least 2 batteries and that is usb-c powered. I currently have the Peter Lindgren tri-charger and it works ok but it doesn't show the charging level correctly for all models of the battery and not sure will it shorten the life of the batteries. Also not sure will it work with the new batteries. If I think now all the canon chargers could benefit from some update...
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I'm not versed on this topic, but could they really lock down the communication between the camera and battery? Could they use firmware updates to switch things up?
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The R5 locks out various modes and features when your batteries go low, which happens faster with non-NH LP-E6 variants.
Looking at local prices:
- LP-E6P: €120
- LP-EL: €140
- OC-E4 cable: €220
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I'm paranoid about having back ups in case anything fails. So, I travel with two smaller Apple two-outlet USB-C chargers.
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When I was using 3rd party batteries in my 5D they lasted significantly shorter than the originals
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Having owned bluemaxx batteries for Eos 1300d and briefly (a present) for EOS R I’ve made a decision to never purchase them again because they suck. My newly used bought R5 came with four batteries:
Canon LP-E6NH (works perfect!)
Patona LP-E6NH (works fine, but has a lot of difficulty charging) —> sucks…
Patona LP-E6N —> will de-charge instead of charge while in camera…that’s the worst case. You charge a battery and after a few hours it is completely empty. Glad I don’t have to rely on those two batteries.
Also, it will tell me: low on battery, please charge. If I switch the camera off/ on again, it will show: „fully charged“. Those battery suck really hard!!!
I will not buy third batteries anymore unless Canon officially gives out licenses or certifications. I don’t mind if Canon shuts them down altogether.
Canon LP-E6NH (works perfect!)
Patona LP-E6NH (works fine, but has a lot of difficulty charging) —> sucks…
Patona LP-E6N —> will de-charge instead of charge while in camera…that’s the worst case. You charge a battery and after a few hours it is completely empty. Glad I don’t have to rely on those two batteries.
Also, it will tell me: low on battery, please charge. If I switch the camera off/ on again, it will show: „fully charged“. Those battery suck really hard!!!
I will not buy third batteries anymore unless Canon officially gives out licenses or certifications. I don’t mind if Canon shuts them down altogether.
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I'll withhold judgment until I try it when my R5 Mk II shows up. There were issues using third-party batteries with the original R5. I have some third-party batteries that the camera will not charge internally if you plug a USB-C charger into the original R5. It will use the battery, but you have to charge it externally with the Canon charger or a third-party charger. Most of the batteries are now properly coded to tell the camera they are "Canon."
The chart shown in the post doesn't say you can't use non-Canon batteries; it says the older batteries don't have enough voltage. I double-checked the manual and didn't see where Canon batteries were required. That would probably get them into trouble with the government. Just look at Apple and the EU problems they are having.
This is like the same deal where printers know if you are using a factory laser cartridge or not. It won't be long before someone decodes the chip inside the battery and reverse engineers it. I have no problem using a 3rd party battery. A battery is a battery as long as it is made well. As an engineer, I've designed battery systems that replace existing factory products without an issue.
While I have several non-Canon batteries, the original two that I bought with my R5 and grip are still working fine after four years. If you understand how to charge a battery properly, it will last a long time. I use an M1 MacBook Pro that is almost three years old, and the battery still tests at 96% of its original capacity. The same with my cell phone. Google charging a Lithium-ion battery to understand proper charging techniques.
The chart shown in the post doesn't say you can't use non-Canon batteries; it says the older batteries don't have enough voltage. I double-checked the manual and didn't see where Canon batteries were required. That would probably get them into trouble with the government. Just look at Apple and the EU problems they are having.
This is like the same deal where printers know if you are using a factory laser cartridge or not. It won't be long before someone decodes the chip inside the battery and reverse engineers it. I have no problem using a 3rd party battery. A battery is a battery as long as it is made well. As an engineer, I've designed battery systems that replace existing factory products without an issue.
While I have several non-Canon batteries, the original two that I bought with my R5 and grip are still working fine after four years. If you understand how to charge a battery properly, it will last a long time. I use an M1 MacBook Pro that is almost three years old, and the battery still tests at 96% of its original capacity. The same with my cell phone. Google charging a Lithium-ion battery to understand proper charging techniques.
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While I generally don’t use third party batteries, I did get 3 that came with a USB charger I needed for charging from a battery bank. I still tried them out and they’ve been every bit as good as the OEM batteries. In fact, as I retire old batteries I’ve started to use those and they’ve held up a lot better than aI was expecting. Kind of disappointing, especially given the limited access to authentic LP-E6P batteries. I guess if the camera makes it in time for my trip I’ll have to pull a couple LP-E6Ns out of retirement to meet my minimum 5 battery load for the trip.
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+1, to me it makes no sense to save 50-60 € on a battery when spending somewhere between 3000-5000 € on a camera with a grip.+1
I recently shot 3000+ photo’s with my R5 + grip with two Canon LP-E6NH batteries, the batteries had between 20 and 30% capacity left. The two batteries are 4 years old and have a Red recharge indicator for quite some time. I was with a friend who uses third part batteries and he had to change batteries several times, mostly because the batteries could not sustain the R5’s 12fps mechanical shutter shooting rate because their power was insufficient.
Edit: I use EFCS.
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I use 3rd party batteries in my R5 with and without grip and have not seen anything like this. If anything, the 3rd party batteries seem to last longer than OEM.
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Yeah I think the brands with a good reputation are fine. I have also seen others say the third party batteries from good companies last longer.
Canon themselves don't make the cells, but I'm not sure who they get them from.
My R3 batteries are dying at a a rate I think is too fast. One is at 60% after 6 months of use....
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