The likelihood of a Canon EOS R6 Mark III this year is near zero

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That’s ’partially stacked’ in the way that getting a 7 out of a 100 on a test is ‘partially an A+’.
Yeah it definitely sounds like something the marketing folks coined. I imagine the engineers would have just called it a low latency package or something. Seems more analagous to the 'chiplet' design being used in newer CPUs and such
 
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Yeah it definitely sounds like something the marketing folks coined. I imagine the engineers would have just called it a low latency package or something. Seems more analagous to the 'chiplet' design being used in newer CPUs and such
Thanks for the photo....
A chiplet is more likely but the marketing folks would have cottoned on to the 3 dimension aspect to call it stacking. The engineers would have complained that they would look silly to call it a "stacked" sensor so marketing (and legal) compromised with PartialStacking™ (I'm assumed they trade marked the term).
 
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I think there's a decent chance the R3 is simply discontinued. If it does live on as a mark II, I could see them giving it the R5II sensor.
Canon have allowed models to stay in the line up for some time once superseded but the 5Div and 1DXiii are still there.
My prediction is that the R3 will remain an orphan but still in production for a long time.

I do wonder if Canon will follow Nikon's lead to basically have 2 models for "pro" integrated body (Z9) and similar non-gripped body (Z9) options in the future. There seems to be some (not not huge volumes) of buyers. No grips would then be needed reducing the product item variants.
 
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I think there's a decent chance the R3 is simply discontinued. If it does live on as a mark II, I could see them giving it the R5II sensor.

Either way, as I noted earlier, there is already some precedent for the 6-series body sharing its sensor with the pro body (R6 and 1DXIII back then).

Specifically it's these chunks of silicon abutting the sensor. Seems to let them increase the speed without it being as complicated to build as a true stacked sensor. Readout speed is about the same as the R6II (~14.5ms), though it is 14-bit instead of 12-bit, so there is still ~4x as much data being transferred in the same amount of time.

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I think the R3 will stay on as the budget R1, with more and more aggressive pricing over the next year or two. I think by the time the R3 is EOL it will be selling for less than USD$3700. Will continue to be a great option for event shooters who don't need 45mp or R1 specs.
 
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I am suspicious of all this supply chain shortage speak. I don't want to seem like a downer, but I seem to think that sales of the R5 MK II and the R1 were just poor and supply chain issues are an easy way to navigate poor reports. Also, more folks are squeezing pennies than ever before because of the economy. But that's just my 2C. Could be very wrong, though.
There are still a lot of people on the internet waiting for their preorder to be filled, and you’re saying Canon is deliberately refusing to sell cameras because they are not selling? That’s a self fulfilling prophecy!
 
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I am suspicious of all this supply chain shortage speak. I don't want to seem like a downer, but I seem to think that sales of the R5 MK II and the R1 were just poor and supply chain issues are an easy way to navigate poor reports. Also, more folks are squeezing pennies than ever before because of the economy. But that's just my 2C. Could be very wrong, though.
I suppose it is the other way 'round:
Canon can't keep up with the demand, looking at all the people waiting for their new tool/toy.
And working in the industry, I can tell you a lot about shortages in semiconductor delivery, no matter if for high current (power supply units) or microchips.

... There is simply 0 urgency from anyone that I know personally to buy those cameras. ...
That doesn't mean it isn't there.
With your argumentation, all this "shortage" story would be a great conspiracy to hype the bad selling R1 and R5m2.
I don't believe that, because I know some people in person that are waiting. Does that mean I am right and you are wrong? No!
It just does mean that both our database is too small.
 
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…I seem to think that sales of the R5 MK II and the R1 were just poor and supply chain issues are an easy way to navigate poor reports.
Who is the target for your conspiracy theory? Customers who will think, “Oooo look, this camera is so amazing that it’s sold out everywhere, I better order one now and wait months for it?” I mean, not your your friends, they’re too smart to fall for that so they’re not interested…but those other rubes who will fall for it.

Or is it shareholders who will think , “Oh well, Canon is losing revenue but it’s fine if my investment suffers because it’s not Canon’s fault?” Not to mention that lying to shareholders is generally bad form.
 
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I do get the sense there has been less hype for the R5II than I expected. There seemed to be more buzz around for recent releases from the other companies.

But I doubt Canon is lying about supply chain issues. It can be simultaneously true that the camera sold slower than expected, but that they did eventually run out of their initial production run and are having production issues. Here in the US there was ample inventory even after the preorders were filled, it’s only the last few days that most retailers are listing the camera as back ordered.
 
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I do get the sense there has been less hype for the R5II than I expected. There seemed to be more buzz around for recent releases from the other companies.
I would think a mark II rarely gets as much interest. And some of the headline stats (eg resolution) didn't change. But I have no idea how to judge hype. And to what extent "buzz" generates sales is something that's been pondered on these forums for years.
 
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I had an event yesterday and it was in a low light restaurant and sweet Lord, did my R6ii have trouble focusing. Its an absolute piece of shit to be honest and I bought it based on all the reviews I saw, and these are the big regular ones.
 
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@bergstrom . Sort of off topic but for everyone's benefit could you share more about the shooting situation, and the lens you were using? I think there's more users out there enjoying the R6II than not liking it.

As far as Canon announcing an R6III this year, I was a bit skeptical.
 
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I think there's a decent chance the R3 is simply discontinued. If it does live on as a mark II, I could see them giving it the R5II sensor.

Either way, as I noted earlier, there is already some precedent for the 6-series body sharing its sensor with the pro body (R6 and 1DXIII back then).

Specifically it's these chunks of silicon abutting the sensor. Seems to let them increase the speed without it being as complicated to build as a true stacked sensor. Readout speed is about the same as the R6II (~14.5ms), though it is 14-bit instead of 12-bit, so there is still ~4x as much data being transferred in the same amount of time.

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R3 with R5 II sensor and improved eye control focus would be a nearly perfect camera imho.
R3 ergonomics are really great!
An R6 III this year? Wouldn't it make more sense to produce all the R5 IIs they could sell?
 
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R3 with R5 II sensor and improved eye control focus would be a nearly perfect camera imho.
R3 ergonomics are really great!
An R6 III this year? Wouldn't it make more sense to produce all the R5 IIs they could sell?
Yeah an r3 body with R5 ii sensor and a larger buffer would be a near perfect camera and would make me seriously consider taking a big loss on the R5 ii to upgrade.

Re r6iii - At this point I think it’s established that it’s not coming out this year, but sounds like canon was seriously considering it if the reports here weren’t completely unfounded. I think Q1 is probably the target at this point.

Maybe the R5II production issues are a part of that if the supply chain issue is for stuff shared between the cameras.
 
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