Canon to announce ‘major’ new firmware for the EOS R1 & EOS R5 Mark II ahead of CP+

[Toamelicious]

Don´t I hikjacked the R5mkii/ R1 thread here, so the blame is on me


I read your post as if it is not possible to assign AF modes (animal/ human/ vehicle) on the original R5. Did I understand/ read it correctly?

My experience comes from the original R6, but I'm quite sure, these two cameras are similar in this way:
As far as I know there's no way for that generation to put subject to detect on a custom button.

However you could maybe employ the same trick, I use for enabling or disabling precapture on the R5II, where this function is also not an option as a custom button toggle:

Go to your custom menu section, set up a page and register only the menu for changing subject selection on that page.
Now set a custom button of your choice for opening the menue.
If you leave your menue after initial setup for a day of shooting on this page, the menu should always open up exactly there.

Having a button on the right of the camera set for opening the menue, let's you quickly access the function without taking your left hand off the lens or setting down the camera.

 

[Alastair Norcross]

AFAIK the ability to assign subject to detect to a button was first introduced on the R6II. The R5, R6, R7, R10 don't have it. It's probably the feature I miss the most when I use my R7, after using my R6II or R5II. I have it assigned to the Q menu in my R7, and usually have it as the active selection, so it takes one button press and a scroll to change it. I never had the original R5, but you can probably do something similar on that camera.

 

[David_B]

New R5-II firmware to provide IQ to match that of the R5.

 

[PinholeR5]

I just want one touch switch between crop modes.

Give us a menu to enable which ones are enabled to cycle between and pressing your custom button (in my case DoF preview button) will swap between them without bringing up the menu and having to toggle between them.

I only want full and 1.6x. I know Sony does it. Particularly on the r5 series I use it all the time to get extra length from prime lenses when I don’t need 45MP and 17mp is suitable.

This one is already available!!!!

I believe I have the setup you want using the DoF preview button as well. If I'm in FF and press it once, it goes straight to 1.6x crop. Press again, it goes back to FF. There are two aspect ratio customizations available:



The top one, highlighted in blue, "Cropping/aspect ratio" does what you say: Brings up the menu of aspect ratios and lets you choose between them. You don't want the one highlighted in blue. The second one, "Switch between crop/aspect", however, doesn't bring up the menu and "silently" toggles between the available aspect ratios without bringing up the menu.

When you are in the cusomization menu and selecting it, you have to press the INFO button (or INFO Detail Set. icon on the LCD) to bring up the menu for enabled aspect ratios. Just make sure that only Full and 1.6 are selected and your chosen button becomes a toggle between Full and 1.6x crop.

There are so many different icons in the cusomization menus that it is really hard to find what you want, or to know if it is possible. For a list of which buttons can be customized with which features, check

Canon : Product Manual : EOS R5 Mark II : Control Customization Details

 

[SonicStudios]

Be interesting if this new Major Award Firmware Release code name FRA-GIL-E is to support the new telephoto lens release to be announce at CP

 

[Exploreshootshare]

My experience comes from the original R6, but I'm quite sure, these two cameras are similar in this way:
As far as I know there's no way for that generation to put subject to detect on a custom button.

However you could maybe employ the same trick, I use for enabling or disabling precapture on the R5II, where this function is also not an option as a custom button toggle:

Go to your custom menu section, set up a page and register only the menu for changing subject selection on that page.
Now set a custom button of your choice for opening the menue.
If you leave your menue after initial setup for a day of shooting on this page, the menu should always open up exactly there.

Having a button on the right of the camera set for opening the menue, let's you quickly access the function without taking your left hand off the lens or setting down the camera.

That sounds like a great idea. I'll give it a try tomorrow.

 

[Sparatan117]

I might be in the minority here, but I just want Canon to fix the bugs still present in the R3... like the Exposure Compensation button that's still broken in Manual Mode.

Like yeah... awesome that they're releasing updates for the R1 and R5mk2 ... but polish the work horses already currently in circulation first...

 

[neuroanatomist]

I might be in the minority here, but I just want Canon to fix the bugs still present in the R3... like the Exposure Compensation button that's still broken in Manual Mode.

Was going to ask what you mean, but I tried on my R3… WTF, Canon?!? It doesn’t affect my use (I have EC assigned to the rear dial and never use the EC button), but still…

 

[Since_5DIII]

I think Canon needs to make a change to the image stabilization in the R5II for video because right now it’s way too jerky when you’re auto-focused on subjects moving across the screen. I wish you could set the the amount of image stabilization in the menu on a sliding scale, so you could go from its current high level where it’s trying it’s hardest to lock objects in place on screen, down to its lowest level where it’s just enough to remove the vibrations from your image and keep the image smooth.

 

[angelisland]

I think Canon needs to make a change to the image stabilization in the R5II for video because right now it’s way too jerky when you’re auto-focused on subjects moving across the screen. I wish you could set the the amount of image stabilization in the menu on a sliding scale, so you could go from its current high level where it’s trying it’s hardest to lock objects in place on screen, down to its lowest level where it’s just enough to remove the vibrations from your image and keep the image smooth.

Agreed, the image stabilization on the R5II is far worse than the original R5.

 

[P-visie]

New R5-II firmware to provide IQ to match that of the R5.

Can you provide evidence for your implied claim that the R5 Mk II image quality is less then the R5’s image quality? Preferably with real life examples where the R5 Mk II’s image quality has prevented or restricted you from achieving your intended results.

 

[Karm]

I'd like to see a customizable option for how many seconds to keep when using pre-continuous shooting. For example 0.05s, 0.1s, 0.2s, 0.3s, 0.4s and 0.5s. With currently the only option being 0.5s (20 frames at 40fps, 15 frames at 30fps etc).

I would also love to see a fix for an issue where the camera's burst rate slows down when using a flash and shooting an underexposed subject.

 

[neuroanatomist]

I would also love to see a fix for an issue where the camera's burst rate slows down when using a flash and shooting an underexposed subject.

How is that a camera issue? Seems to me the limitation would be flash recycle time.

 

[Karm]

How is that a camera issue? Seems to me the limitation would be flash recycle time.

I could hijack the topic and write many posts debating it, but I'll just put it all in one post and leave it at that. In this case it is actually an issue with the camera. I've contacted Canon support about it, the issue has been reproduced by a Canon product specialists, and it has been escalated to Canon Europe.

But to give an idea of the issue, when I set everything manually (including shutter speed, flash power, aperture, ISO and manual focus) and keep them identical, the burst rate changes dramatically depending on whether I photograph a dark underexposed (in natural light) subject, or not. It slows down the darker the subject is. The flash and camera are CAPABLE of doing much quicker bursts because with identical manual settings shooting at a bright subject, burst rate is very fast like you would expect.

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My suspicion for the cause of this issue is something relating to the automatic brightening of the viewfinder before doing an exposure whenever a flash is attached and powered on. This is done to make focusing easier, which is actually a good thing before taking a picture. I assume that a part of this includes changing ISO and aperture. However it may be incorrectly also doing this in between burst frames, causing a slowdown. This doesn't happen without a flash because the auto brightening doesn't happen without a flash on (as long as exposure simulation is enabled).

I also considered autofocus during the burst to be a factor, however the issue also happens when autofocus is disabled / set to manual focus. Maybe a 'solution' for this issue is that this behaviour should be happening (to maintain focus) for bursts with autofocus enabled, but not with manual focus enabled.

 

[koenkooi]

[...] I would also love to see a fix for an issue where the camera's burst rate slows down when using a flash and shooting an underexposed subject.

I don't think I've seen that issue yet, but AF performance degrades significantly when underexposing, which in turn might affect the burst rate. The only slow down so far on my R5II was due to recycling time, but I don't use flash enough to be confident about my observations

EDIT: I was too slow typing, see https://www.canonrumors.com/forum/t...eos-r5-mark-ii-ahead-of-cp.44295/post-1018679

 

[neuroanatomist]

I could hijack the topic and write many posts debating it, but I'll just put it all in one post and leave it at that. In this case it is actually an issue with the camera. I've contacted Canon support about it, the issue has been reproduced by a Canon product specialists, and it has been escalated to Canon Europe.

But to give an idea of the issue, when I set everything manually (including shutter speed, flash power, aperture, ISO and manual focus) and keep them identical, the burst rate changes dramatically depending on whether I photograph a dark underexposed (in natural light) subject, or not. It slows down the darker the subject is. The flash and camera are CAPABLE of doing much quicker bursts because with identical manual settings shooting at a bright subject, burst rate is very fast like you would expect.

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My suspicion for the cause of this issue is something relating to the automatic brightening of the viewfinder before doing an exposure whenever a flash is attached and powered on. This is done to make focusing easier, which is actually a good thing before taking a picture. I assume that a part of this includes changing ISO and aperture. However it may be incorrectly also doing this in between burst frames, causing a slowdown. This doesn't happen without a flash because the auto brightening doesn't happen with a flash on (as long as exposure simulation is enabled).

I also considered autofocus during the burst to be a factor, however the issue also happens when autofocus is disabled / set to manual focus. Maybe a 'solution' for this issue is that this behaviour should be happening (to maintain focus) for bursts with autofocus enabled, but not with manual focus enabled.

Thanks for the explanation!

 

[koenkooi]

I could hijack the topic and write many posts debating it, but I'll just put it all in one post and leave it at that. In this case it is actually an issue with the camera. I've contacted Canon support about it, the issue has been reproduced by a Canon product specialists, and it has been escalated to Canon Europe.

But to give an idea of the issue, when I set everything manually (including shutter speed, flash power, aperture, ISO and manual focus) and keep them identical, the burst rate changes dramatically depending on whether I photograph a dark underexposed (in natural light) subject, or not. It slows down the darker the subject is. The flash and camera are CAPABLE of doing much quicker bursts because with identical manual settings shooting at a bright subject, burst rate is very fast like you would expect.

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My suspicion for the cause of this issue is something relating to the automatic brightening of the viewfinder before doing an exposure whenever a flash is attached and powered on. This is done to make focusing easier, which is actually a good thing before taking a picture. I assume that a part of this includes changing ISO and aperture. However it may be incorrectly also doing this in between burst frames, causing a slowdown. This doesn't happen without a flash because the auto brightening doesn't happen without a flash on (as long as exposure simulation is enabled).

I also considered autofocus during the burst to be a factor, however the issue also happens when autofocus is disabled / set to manual focus. Maybe a 'solution' for this issue is that this behaviour should be happening (to maintain focus) for bursts with autofocus enabled, but not with manual focus enabled.

I keep being surprised by the things that are affected by the preview exposure and it being only 8-bit, this is a new one!

 

[dafrank]

Small wishlist:
1) in-camera production of RAW pixel-shift, higher-res feature.
2) increase rate of success for pupil tracking refinements
3) better automatic bluetooth reconnection to phone (my car's connection is very grabby without any input by me, why not my camera?)

I agree with pixel shift high res mode. The other feature I would love is a one button on/off switch for showing ambient light exposure simulation in viewfinder with attached flash or trigger mounted and “on” on the hot shoe. This would be so great for those of us who shoot flash mixed with ambient light in our stills, and Sony, for one, has this feature already, so it is obviously not too difficult to implement.

 

[mmmm]

I agree with pixel shift high res mode. The other feature I would love is a one button on/off switch for showing ambient light exposure simulation in viewfinder with attached flash or trigger mounted and “on” on the hot shoe. This would be so great for those of us who shoot flash mixed with ambient light in our stills, and Sony, for one, has this feature already, so it is obviously not too difficult to implement.

I made a thread about this, but it received no replies. So I take it there isn’t an option other than the one I use, which is turn the flash or the trigger off, expose and then back on?

R1 and flash behaviour.

What can I do about the fact that whenever I add a flash or a flash trigger (godox system) to the hot shoe, the exposure simulation gets disabled and (what I assume is) the ovf simulation is engaged? It’s nice to be able to measure the ambient light using the exp sim. The only solution I have...

www.canonrumors.com

 

[Karm]

I made a thread about this, but it received no replies. So I take it there isn’t an option other than the one I use, which is turn the flash or the trigger off, expose and then back on?

R1 and flash behaviour.

What can I do about the fact that whenever I add a flash or a flash trigger (godox system) to the hot shoe, the exposure simulation gets disabled and (what I assume is) the ovf simulation is engaged? It’s nice to be able to measure the ambient light using the exp sim. The only solution I have...

www.canonrumors.com

The only other workaround I read about (and just tested) is clicking the "AF selection" button on the back at the top right, then clicking "set" (to just select whatever you already had selected). This will temporarily re-enable the exposure simulation until you half-press the shutter button.