Corrupted images captured with EOS R5 Mark II and certain SanDisk SD cards

I've done a lot of card reviews and have samples from almost all of the firms. Mostly CFexpress cards, but also SD cards. I really like Delkin, Sabrent, OWC, Angelbird in particular because in each of those cases I could reach a human quickly, and they allow for firmware upgrades. When Delkin made an improvement change that couldn't be handled by firmware alone, they just sent me a brand new one. Angelbird sent me a new one when part of the plastic exterior chipped in extreme cold. These companies are totally different than the others, which seem to operate as larger firms, more protected from direct consumer contact. Just my anecdotal experience, but it's probably equivalent to 20 normal people's amount of experience.

Sony, Lexar, SanDisk appear to have more problems. All three have a reputation for denying warrantee claims, with Lexar's extending from their parent company being on a US list for Chinese firms engaged in various naughtinesses. I had a Lexar B&H-bought card rejected for replacement because of export issues they had (had to come direct from manufacturer, rather than from B&H). Was a rabbit hole. Sony just flatly refused to honor a lifetime guarantee on SD cards. They referred me to a shell company created (and since abandoned) that they'd used for importing the cards to the US. Essentially, they branded the cards as lifetime warrantee, but didn't mention that the warrantor was a temporary shell company.

SanDisk has a serious product/brand management culture failure. There doesn't seem to be internal costs to selling data-losing products. I actually tracked down and briefly interviewed one of their CFexpress card engineers (in India) back when they were new to the category. My sense was that WD's management structure was very engineer-led, and there wasn't much of a consumer feedback mechanism.

The upshot: our old brand impressions from the DSLR days - when it comes to memory cards - are probably more misleading than useful. Also, I've found that many of the lower-$-per-GB cards tend to be better quality companies (Transcend being a notable exception). Prograde may be an exception to this, coming from the high end of the market. I've only heard good stories about their interactions with customers. Their cards are great too. I just don't have personal experiences with their service.

Finally, I found it interesting to discover that Canon has actually been talking to memory card makers over the last few years, especially in the CFexpress area. As it has been a new card standard, there's been a working out of certain kinks, with the card makers and Canon being much more cooperative than Canon typically is. You may recall that Canon's R5 was the first major product pushing the CFexpress standard. Some of the R5 Mark I firmware upgrades in the first year or two had to do with card reading and writing changes suggested by some of the manufacturers. The two who spoke to me on background about this issue were both among that group of smaller firms.
 
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What would be safe for me?
Switching brands even though I've never had in 16 years any single issue with Sandisk?
If Angelbirds also fail, what about the reliability of the other brands? They are all trying to cut costs, every company does it.
So, will I be safer if I switch and start using products I have not one single experience with? :unsure:
 
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What would be safe for me?
Switching brands even though I've never had in 16 years any single issue with Sandisk?
If Angelbirds also fail, what about the reliability of the other brands? They are all trying to cut costs, every company does it.
So, will I be safer if I switch and start using products I have not one single experience with? :unsure:
As an amateur, my income does not depend on my photography. I’ll continue with my Sandisk CFE cards in the way I’ve done my CF and CFE cards since 2003. Format the cards in camera before I go out and shoot. Treat the memory cards carefully (the washing machine anecdote is the exception to this rule) as delicate electronic instruments. Have a spare card in my backpack. And replace a card at the first sign of potential trouble, e.g. errors during transfer of files to my pc, etc.
 
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As an amateur, my income does not depend on my photography. I’ll continue with my Sandisk CFE cards in the way I’ve done since 2003: format the cards in camera before I go out and shoot. Treat the memory cards carefully (the washing machine anecdote is the exception to this rule) as delicate electronic instruments.
Same here, I won't change brands because I never had a reason to do so. But I will replace my Sandisk "rugged" SSDs, since the quality problems have been documented in a credible way.
 
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Try filling it for 75%, if that works, your SSD isn’t affected. Mine isn’t, yay!
Oh, I was mistaken, forget my deleted answer. I thought you were speaking of SD cards.
I caught a cold, and, as usual, I try to cure myself with a proven French medicine named "grog". (Lemon juice, sugar, water and brown rum in highlyvariable proportion). This could explain my mistake...hic!
But I have read somewhere that the Sandisk "rugged" SSD quality issue was the faulty solder used. True or false? I don't know...
It could be safer to replace them with Samsungs.
 
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I've used SanDisk cards for years, largely SD cards, and without trouble -- except once. One image on an Ultra II CF card in my 30D failed with some sort of rainbow or prism pattern. So I trust the brand. Now that I've added R-series cameras to my stuff I plan to have three brands so I don't get cards mixed up: My existing SanDisk Extreme cards (all UHS-1) will be reserved for my 7DII and (soon to be retired) SL1. My R6II will have Kensington Canvas React Plus cards and my R10 will have a Lexar 2000X card. (Major camera stores in Toronto don't seem to carry the top of the line Delkin Power SD cards. In fact, only one store --an electronics/TV store -- carries the top line Kensington Canvas React Plus line)
 
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2 different cards brands, same issue...
Could it be that the R5 II is the issue, and not the cards? :unsure:

That is the reason why I posted here. From my point of view, it is possible that the reason for the incompatibility is the camera, not the card. I also assume that if there is problems with multiple brands, it is not fully visible because photographers will likely focus on the CFexpress card and eventually ignore the SD card. Especially for such an expensive model like the R5 Mark II, how many users really use the camera with only an SD?

I also found it strange that the problem I have with the Angelbird cards and the communicated incompatibility of the SanDisk cards is having the commonality of all of them being UHS-II V60 cards. But size of the card seems to be a factor as well. My personal sample size is obviously too small, so by posting here, eventually we find others.

It is also possible that I'm faced with the coincidence of having two Angelbird cards failing at the same time in two different cameras with a similar failure like what is caused by an incompatibility with another brand of cards.

There is a lot of unknowns still and I'm not interested in speculating about brand quality as most of that is anecdotal. Few people have the means for judging if problems are incidental based on a card simply failing or if there indeed is a systematic issue resulting from incorrect implementations, bad quality control or other such reasons.

I will do some further testing on the weekend and switch SD cards in between the R5 and the R5 Mark II. If the SD card that is working fine in the R55 suddenly fails and the SD card from the Mark II suddenly works without issues in the R5, then I'm not willing any more to believe that the issue is only a card failure.
 
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Oh, I was mistaken, forget my deleted answer. I thought you were speaking of SD cards.
I caught a cold, and, as usual, I try to cure myself with a proven French medicine named "grog". (Lemon juice, sugar, water and brown rum in highlyvariable proportion). This could explain my mistake...hic!
But I have read somewhere that the Sandisk "rugged" SSD quality issue was the faulty solder used. True or false? I don't know...
It could be safer to replace them with Samsungs.
ZDNet has a post with clarification and a link to Sandisk where you can check with the serialnumber if your SSD is affected.

See: https://www.zdnet.com/article/check...he-sandiskwestern-digital-data-loss-disaster/
 
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That is the reason why I posted here. From my point of view, it is possible that the reason for the incompatibility is the camera, not the card. I also assume that if there is problems with multiple brands, it is not fully visible because photographers will likely focus on the CFexpress card and eventually ignore the SD card. Especially for such an expensive model like the R5 Mark II, how many users really use the camera with only an SD?

I also found it strange that the problem I have with the Angelbird cards and the communicated incompatibility of the SanDisk cards is having the commonality of all of them being UHS-II V60 cards. But size of the card seems to be a factor as well. My personal sample size is obviously too small, so by posting here, eventually we find others.

It is also possible that I'm faced with the coincidence of having two Angelbird cards failing at the same time in two different cameras with a similar failure like what is caused by an incompatibility with another brand of cards.

There is a lot of unknowns still and I'm not interested in speculating about brand quality as most of that is anecdotal. Few people have the means for judging if problems are incidental based on a card simply failing or if there indeed is a systematic issue resulting from incorrect implementations, bad quality control or other such reasons.

I will do some further testing on the weekend and switch SD cards in between the R5 and the R5 Mark II. If the SD card that is working fine in the R55 suddenly fails and the SD card from the Mark II suddenly works without issues in the R5, then I'm not willing any more to believe that the issue is only a card failure.
What about Canon doing some thorough testing?
Isn't it up to them to check if the fault isn't theirs? It shouldn't be a lottery bringing home or not one's pictures.
The same camera having exactly he same problem with 2 different SD card brands doesn't really sound like a coincidence to me...:mad:
 
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Canon has a very short list of approved cards.
They only test those.
They can't be expected to test every card that comes out.
But shouldn't they check how their most popular cameras behave with some of the most popular cards? Sandisk is no exotic brand...
And if cameras behave strangely with different card brands, shouldn't they at least investigate when the other Canon cameras show no issues?
 
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