Canon's Tilt-Shift Evolution: What's Next?

[Canon Rumors]

If Canon does bring such new lenses to production, how will they differ from the current TS-E range and how do they bring tilt, shift, image stabilisation and autofocus under camera control? More to the point, how can they be used and what can be done with them?

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[Bob Howland]

I bought Keith's book and can recommend it highly. (I own the 17, 24 gen2, 45 and 90 gen1 but don't use them as much as I used to. The 90 gets used the most but rarely leaves the studio.)

 

[Del Paso]

When? When? When?
Will we ever get the RF TSE 14mm?
Oh, how I sympathize with all the poor creatures waiting for the RF 1,2/35!

 

[MikeGalos]

Just some thanks for a really good article. Best photo tech article I've seen on any site in quite a while.

 

[el peso]

But I really can do that easily in software because I don\'t have the spare money to buy a TS-E lens for my episodic architectural shots. Of course I\'ll make a shot meaning future correction and crop.

 

[Hector1970]

I bought Keith's book and can recommend it highly. (I own the 17, 24 gen2, 45 and 90 gen1 but don't use them as much as I used to. The 90 gets used the most but rarely leaves the studio.)

Yes his book is great and his website. Excellent on printers too.
I own 17, 24 II, 50mm and 90.
I use the 24 II the most. It’s a super lens, very sharp and adaptable. 17 is the next most used. 50mm is very sharp but a less useful (for me) focal length.
What I’d love is for the lens to be able to keep rotating. The second would be some sort of preciseness on tilt. I don’t use it much but a little tilt can be useful but it’s hard to be precise currently. Auto focus wouldn’t bother me. There is something about manual focusing and being slow and accurate might be lost.

 

[Del Paso]

But I really can do that easily in software because I don\'t have the spare money to buy a TS-E lens for my episodic architectural shots. Of course I\'ll make a shot meaning future correction and crop.

The price to pay for a software correction is a measurable and also visible loss of IQ. Whenever I visited a city, and was too lazy to carry a TS, I ended (at home) by regretting it.
You can do it easily, ok, but just look at how many sensor pixels you lose this way. And what about tilting???
There's a good reason why TS lenses exist.

 

[Old Man FL/FD]

The last photo in the article illustrating the “model world” look reminded me of some photos I took of the Thorne Miniature Rooms at the Art Institute of Chicago.

These architecturally themed rooms are real “models,” built on a 1:12 scale – each room is less than a meter wide. Amazing detail on the furnishings at that scale.

My attachments are out-of-camera JPEGs using an EF 17-40mm lens at 17mm and f/4, close to MFD.

The apparent lack of depth of field relative to perceived scale is real – these are close-ups of models!

 

[tiggy@mac.com]

Keith is the person I\'ve learned most from in regard to T/S. I think he\'s underappreciated as someone who can get across some of the most complex photography concepts. He\'s one of those dozen-or-so people out there having quietly made very significant contributions to the craft of photography.

 

[keithcooper]

Glad it's of interest. The book has just been reprinted, so it sold more than I ever thought would be interested in such an esoteric subject! I've now been asked to write one on printing - which I'll likely start once we've moved house and I have a bit more space for printers and the like.

As to the Canon patents, I'm curious as to how these lenses will perform - perhaps that's why we haven't seen any yet ;-)

 

[RobbieHat]

The last photo in the article illustrating the “model world” look reminded me of some photos I took of the Thorne Miniature Rooms at the Art Institute of Chicago.

These architecturally themed rooms are real “models,” built on a 1:12 scale – each room is less than a meter wide. Amazing detail on the furnishings at that scale.

My attachments are out-of-camera JPEGs using an EF 17-40mm lens at 17mm and f/4, close to MFD.

The apparent lack of depth of field relative to perceived scale is real – these are close-ups of models!

That miniature room is one of the most fascinating exhibits at the AIC and a must visit whenever I take someone to that museum. Those models are so detailed and realistic that when I take a closeup shot of them people can’t tell if they are models or real architectural locations. Amazingly under appreciated the amount of work that went into all elements of those rooms (fixtures, fabrics, accessories, exteriors, lighting, etc.). I love that display.

 

[scyrene]

The price to pay for a software correction is a measurable and also visible loss of IQ. Whenever I visited a city, and was too lazy to carry a TS, I ended (at home) by regretting it.
You can do it easily, ok, but just look at how many sensor pixels you lose this way. And what about tilting???
There's a good reason why TS lenses exist.

But there are already millions of photos of every city, so why does it matter? *Ducks*

 

[sanj]

Nice gentleman. But takes forever to make a point. But thank you, sir!

 

[barryreid]

“Canon’s first shift lens, the FD mount TS 35mm f/2.8 SSC appeared in 1973, and although updated in 1975, Canon has never got round to offering another 35mm tilt/shift since then”

I’d love it if someone made a 35mm TS. I use a Zeiss 35 PC-Distagon at that FL and it’s definitely lacking convenience and functionality.

 

[CharlesB]

Does anyone here use RF-S or even EF-S (with adapter) on a full frame camera like the R5ii? Pros and cons?

From what I read, it'll automatically crop but keep the 45mp?

I'm really just curious if there's any benefits to getting a lens designed for crop sensors on a full frame camera. It's seem like the pixel density would be great. (I could have the terminology wrong! )

Hopefully Sigma, Tamron and others can start making RF mount lenses soon!

 

[neuroanatomist]

From what I read, it'll automatically crop but keep the 45mp?

Ummm, no. 17 MP. Because crop.

 

[CharlesB]

Ummm, no. 17 MP. Because crop.

Thanks! And that's why I asked here. When I Googled it, it says it maintains the 45mp. So I thought that'd be pretty cool.

 

[CharlesB]

Ummm, no. 17 MP. Because crop.

OK, oddly I just tried finding my original search to screenshot and show you and now it's saying exactly what you said, so I have no clue. I know I didn't misread anything, so it's very weird and going to bug me!

If I come across it again, I'm going to screen shot it and see what the exact source was. I just read the Google AI answer.

 

[EricN]

OK, oddly I just tried finding my original search to screenshot and show you and now it's saying exactly what you said, so I have no clue. I know I didn't misread anything, so it's very weird and going to bug me!

If I come across it again, I'm going to screen shot it and see what the exact source was. I just read the Google AI answer.

AI can make mistakes

 

[CharlesB]

AI can make mistakes

That's very true. I've actually found Google AI wrong about things quite a few times. I think it mainly just takes information from the top 1-3 websites. Not just in relation to photography but other things as well.