Canon's Tilt-Shift Evolution: What's Next?

[EOS 4 Life]

Does anyone here use RF-S or even EF-S (with adapter) on a full frame camera like the R5ii? Pros and cons?

From what I read, it'll automatically crop but keep the 45mp?

I'm really just curious if there's any benefits to getting a lens designed for crop sensors on a full frame camera. It's seem like the pixel density would be great. (I could have the terminology wrong! )

Hopefully Sigma, Tamron and others can start making RF mount lenses soon!

There is only an advantage when the lens is compatible with teleconverters.
It would cover the entire sensor then.

 

[EricN]

That's very true. I've actually found Google AI wrong about things quite a few times. I think it mainly just takes information from the top 1-3 websites. Not just in relation to photography but other things as well.

If you know any topics with misconceptions from the general public, you can ask ChatGPT to make a chart or outline and in my experience, it makes mistakes more often than I expected. If when point out the mistake, it'll correct it. It's interesting, but I don't think it is very useful for me (yet).

 

[scyrene]

There is only an advantage when the lens is compatible with teleconverters.
It would cover the entire sensor then.

I would say there's an advantage *if* the crop resolution is sufficient (I use crop mode a lot, even with the R6, because for a lot of what I do, 7MP is enough); *and* if you already own a crop lens and don't want to replace it; *or* if you want to save money by buying a crop lens. Additionally, it can save storage space as the files are much smaller.

 

[CharlesB]

There is only an advantage when the lens is compatible with teleconverters.
It would cover the entire sensor then.

Thanks for the information! I was just curious if there's any benefits and that seems to be no. At least not for me. Nature, macro photography. I like more resolution and being able to crop, especially with macro. Not always but it's helpful!

If you know any topics with misconceptions from the general public, you can ask ChatGPT to make a chart or outline and in my experience, it makes mistakes more often than I expected. If when point out the mistake, it'll correct it. It's interesting, but I don't think it is very useful for me (yet).

Thanks for the heads up! I do see it quite often. I generally don't rely on it for a whole lot. I think in time it'll get better. I just found it weird that I looked and it actually said the R5mii maintained it's resolution and then when I looked again it said basically what the other guy said about the 17mp. I really wanted to screenshot it, so I didn't look so silly but I couldn't find it again. Oh well. I enjoy asking questions on here and getting different opinions. Not that there's different opinions on if it holds the same resolution or not but if there's any benefits to using an EF-S or RF-S lens over a FF lens.

 

[neuroanatomist]

… if there's any benefits to using an EF-S or RF-S lens over a FF lens.

In some cases, cost and size are benefits. Those are the generally applicable benefits of crop sensor systems, and they apply to lenses as well as bodies.

Compare the RF-S 18-150 to the RF 24-240, for example. Or the EF-S 18-55 vs the RF 24-105 non-L.

 

[bobwilmes]

I used to shoot Velvia 4x5 Quickload on a Arca Swiss view camera. I bought Keith’s excellent book and a used Canon EF TS-E 90 mm tilt shift lens. With my Canon 1DX Mark III I’m experimenting with depth of field at f22 while using ISO 100 with an ND filter to bump up the exposure times. It’s not really the same technique as using the view camera. The depth of field I get is much shallower than I expected.

 

[EricN]

I used to shoot Velvia 4x5 Quickload on a Arca Swiss view camera. I bought Keith’s excellent book and a used Canon EF TS-E 90 mm tilt shift lens. With my Canon 1DX Mark III I’m experimenting with depth of field at f22 while using ISO 100 with an ND filter to bump up the exposure times. It’s not really the same technique as using the view camera. The depth of field I get is much shallower than I expected.

Have you tried focus stacking?

 

[CharlesB]

In some cases, cost and size are benefits. Those are the generally applicable benefits of crop sensor systems, and they apply to lenses as well as bodies.

Compare the RF-S 18-150 to the RF 24-240, for example. Or the EF-S 18-55 vs the RF 24-105 non-L.

That's a very good point I never really considered. The only crop sensor I had was the Canon T3i, which is when I started. Back then I was using a reverse lens setup and a kit lens. Obviously not the greatest images but it was enough to get me into photography as a hobby.

Thanks for your thoughts!

 

[Torsten]

“Canon’s first shift lens, the FD mount TS 35mm f/2.8 SSC appeared in 1973, and although updated in 1975, Canon has never got round to offering another 35mm tilt/shift since then”

I’d love it if someone made a 35mm TS.

I'd by a 35mm TS-E instantly the moment Canon makes ones.

Been quite happy with my TS-E's, even though it took a while to get really comfortable with. Which, btw, was mostly Keith's "fault".
I've got the 17mm and 24mm and been looking for getting the 50mm but no reputable dealer had one on stock or could say when it would be available again. Even asked Canon Germany, but since I'm no longer a CPS member I had to talk to regular Canon people and they didn't know or care.
Just noticed yesterday that the 50mm just went on-stock with my currently preferred dealer and ordered immediately.

I'm not sure I have much use for TS-E above 50mm, but beside a 35mm a TS-E wider than 17 mm would be interesting.