Canon announces development of the EOS R5 full-frame mirrorless camera

[AlanF]

Kindly put. This will be a 1.5kg ~$2500 lens. Even bumping the objective diameter by 25% and scaling the rest to get f5.6 at 500 makes this a very different lens that could be 2x the weight and 2-3x the price, approaching the 200-400 f4. But I might not be considering what you would propose for that “extra reach”.

Look at the data. The Nikon 200-500/5.6 and Sony 200-600/6.3 are ~2.1-2.4kg and $1000-1800, which are cheaper than and far less than 2x wt of current 100-400mm II, which weighs ~1.7kg with hood and foot and costs ~$1900 here. (I am equating £ and $ to remove VAT from UK prices).

 

[Aussie shooter]

Purely my speculation:

1. it will have 1 series designed ergonomics and look, feel, smell, and taste like a 1 series camera. Pros used of 1 series EF cameras will be right at home with the R1.
2. lower MPix. Probably around the 20mp, but faster fps than even the 20 - maybe with even a faster readout speed so that mechanical shutter isn't necessary (think A9). No 8K video. 4K RAW, 5.5K RAW,etc like the 1DX Mark III. 30fps sounds about right, but only with RF lenses, speed will drop down with EF lenses.
3. probably better AF than the R5.
4. better weather sealing
5. better build quality
6. larger EVF, better magnification
7. better battery life

they'll roll this out in 2021 with the release of the 300,400,500 and 600mm RF super telephotos and Sony will cease to be relevant.

I can definitely see a 'pro' style body as far as ergonomics go and built tougher. Although I imagine that as this is canon the R5 will have exceptional ergonomics anyway and be built pretty damn tough. Not sure they would emit 8k in the flagship now that they have it available. AF? Yep. Although I assume the AF of the R5 will be amazing anyway as it has to cope with 20fps in electronic shutter mode(again I am assuming it will AF in this mode). Battery life. Yep. Resolution? Maybe, but the resolution issue is not an improvement or otherwise. This thing seems awfully close to being a flagship. It certainly gives the A9 a run for its money ad if this matches the A9 imagine how sad Sony's flagship will look next to canon.

 

[Flighest]

Does anybody know how long it took on average until canon released the announced camera.
-S

 

[mppix]

hoping for 2x CFexpress
SD cards are going to slow this thing down.

 

[Richard CN]

I can definitely see a 'pro' style body as far as ergonomics go and built tougher. Although I imagine that as this is canon the R5 will have exceptional ergonomics anyway and be built pretty damn tough. Not sure they would emit 8k in the flagship now that they have it available. AF. Yep. Although I assume the AF of the R5 will be amazing anyway as it has to cope with 20fps in electronic shutter mode(again I am assuming it will AF in this mode). Battery life. Yep. Resolution? Maybe, but the resolution issue is not an improvement or otherwise. This thing seems awfully close to being a flagship. It certainly gives the A9 a run for its money ad if this matches the A9 imagine how sad Sony's flagship will look next to canon.

yes, but let's not forget, that the 1 series ergonomics basically haven't changed much since the EOS-1 from film days.

because this camera has prosumer ergonomics, it's basically SCREAMING that a 1 series body is coming.

 

[tomri]

8k is clearly far beyond what I need and I guess the price will be accordingly. Now let's hope for the R6. I am afraid they will put the R6 even below the RP, which would mean no dual slots and perhaps not even IBIS. That would be typical; forcing people into a dilemma again; to perhaps buy the old R, which means one will want to buy again soon after...

 

[Mark D5 TEAM II]

All those doubting the rumors are now busy downplaying the specs, saying it would have this or that limitation. DPR & YT Sony fangheys on meltdown, you love to see it.

 

[Daner]

how's it been letting you down? (off topic) for that lens you really need to use DPP's DLO function against it.. especially to combat the PF that it exhibits.

Thanks for the tip!

 

[Richard CN]

Thanks for the tip!

yeah definately try it.. I had a 85mm F1.8 and I shot deliberately at rippled water at F1.8 in bright sunlight (worst case) and DPP/DLO removed all the PF. I pretty much wet my pants at that

 

[Mikehit]

Looks like a traditional joystick beside the AF ON button Not the new selector from the 1D3

But is it? The joystick on other cameras is very squares-off with a ridge round which I presume stops your finger sliding around and so helps fine adjustment. This is a very rounded button which I don't think will be as easy to use.
I suspect the joystick will be on-screen.

 

[puffo25]

The press article is indeed very vague. Does not mention expected released date to the mass market, sensor size, max ISO, details like kind of wifi connectivity, if fully water sealed and price tag.
Very disappointed!

 

[Viggo]

So cameras will be so expensive most people would have to downgrade one model compare to dslr’s... personally I can’t justify a 1d OR this R5 (if it’s $4000), leaving me with the lowest end FF camera. Understand this tech costs, it just sucks to see the value for money ...

 

[Mikehit]

Look at the data. The Nikon 200-500/5.6 and Sony 200-600/6.3 are ~2.1-2.4kg and $1000-1800, which are cheaper than and far less than 2x wt of current 100-400mm II, which weighs ~1.7kg with hood and foot and costs ~$1900 here. (I am equating £ and $ to remove VAT from UK prices).

I think a key thing will be how the Canon lens progresses in aperture. Apparently the Sony is f6.3 at everything after 300mm, so if Canon can maintain f5.6 at 400mm, then it could be a clear winner if aperture is the main gripe.

 

[navastronia]

yeah definately try it.. I had a 85mm F1.8 and I shot deliberately at rippled water at F1.8 in bright sunlight (worst case) and DPP/DLO removed all the PF. I pretty much wet my pants at that

Does DLO actually help with the JPGS the camera produces? Have never gotten a clear answer on this.

 

[AussieSimon]

Northrup flat out said 8K was bullshit.

And maybe his prediction will prove to be wrong. I don't personally care one way or the other. But to be fair I haven't yet seen anything which confirms that the 8K isn't bullshit. For all we know, Canon's idea of 8K might be a few seconds of 15 FPS of motion JPEG that fills the stills buffer and stops.

why are you guys saying Tool is going to eat it? lol? i'm not a fan or a hater of him.... but common, they barely said anything about the body? and no info on price? and this is Canon after all... i am automatically assuming this is 8k video that has been gimped by Canon's cripple hammer until they give full details proving otherwise.

Heck, let's put 8K aside for the moment; I wouldn't even dare assume that 4K video hasn't been crippled. Five bucks says the 4K will be heavily cropped or line skipped, making it inferior to a GH5 with a speed booster.

 

[Jasonmc89]

Can anyone with more technical knowledge than me, please answer this question..

What will give me a better background when shooting small birds?

Crop sensor at 400mm f5.6

or

Full frame at 500mm f7.1

(presuming they are framed the same in the view finder)

Cheers

 

[.jan]

Does anybody know how long it took on average until canon released the announced camera.
-S

Nope, cause development anoucements are usually not what Canon does with exception of 1-series cameras.

 

[Mikehit]

Can anyone with more technical knowledge than me, please answer this question..

What will give me a better background when shooting small birds?

Crop sensor at 400mm f5.6

or

Full frame at 500mm f7.1

(presuming they are framed the same in the view finder)

Cheers

What do you mean by 'better background'? The DOF will be pretty much the same but the nature of the bokeh depends mainly on the lens design

 

[freejay]

The first batch will be sold out in 1.5 seconds...

 

[drama]

The press article is indeed very vague. Does not mention expected released date to the mass market, sensor size, max ISO, details like kind of wifi connectivity, if fully water sealed and price tag.
Very disappointed!

It's almost as if it's a development announcement, and not a full product launch. I'm impressed that you can be very disappointed with so little information.

 

[.jan]

Can't wait to pay a couple hundred bucks extra for 8K video that I'll never ever use.
It certainly looks dashing, but the only thing distinguishing this camera noticeably from its Sony/Nikon/Panasonic competition is 8K and they're gonna make everyone pay for it. Not a fan at all.
So here's to hoping the R6 comes with all of the same features except a lower res sensor that doesn't allow for pricey 8K shenanigans.