EOS R camera between EOS R7 and EOS R10 coming [CR3]

[Canon Rumors]

It feels like the old days again, as numerous camera rumors continue to flow in. It’s becoming a bit more challenging figuring out which camera fits which rumor segment, but we’ll do our best. The latest bit of information that we can confirm is a new camera body coming that will fit between the Canon

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[bergstrom]

So the R or RP are now being regressed as crops???

 

[SnowMiku]

Interesting, I'm not sure if there would be anything APS-C that would fit in between the R10 and R7 since they do share a few specs. What would make sense to me is an entry level Full Frame to replace the RP, it would be above the R10 and sit below the R7 and it would be named R9 or R8 or maybe RP II, please keep the viewfinder for it.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

So the R or RP are now being regressed as crops???

RP is a different naming convention.
It could live on as the RP6, R6P, or something like that.

Canon could also come out with a letter to replace the EOS R.
They could make versions of the R5 and R6 with a single SD card slot and no IBIS for less money.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Interesting, I'm not sure if there would be anything APS-C that would fit in between the R10 and R7 since they do share a few specs.

Maybe an R7 with no viewfinder and an R10 with IBIS and weather sealing.
I can't think of much else.

 

[Chaitanya]

Hopefully R8/R9 will come with Dual SD slots(if its compact as old M6 mk 2 will be a reasonable omission) and BSI sensor(highly unlikely given Canon's need to satisfy castration fetish). Else M6 mk 2 was a good camera for its price in a reasonably sized package.

 

[Maximilian]

So the R or RP are now being regressed as crops???

RP is a different naming convention.
It could live on as the RP6, R6P, or something like that.

Canon could also come out with a letter to replace the EOS R.
They could make versions of the R5 and R6 with a single SD card slot and no IBIS for less money.

Personally, I see the naming of the R and the RP as a first start, when Canon had not finalized their internal roadmap and naming structure.
They had to come up with something against Sony and Nikon.
And - just my opinion - at that time they had decided to not produce any APS-C sensor R camera. Of course, that obviously has changed.

To me, the R has a real successor in the R6 (Mk II).
And now we get into trouble, as there is no more space between the R7 and R6 for the name of an RP successor.
I really would like to see an updated FF camera in the size of an RP, especially as a travel/hiking body.
Could even be a bit more expensive if its features are up-to-date.

But that is just my wish - not sure if it will ever come true.

 

[Scenes]

Interesting to read the R7C may be scrapped. As an R5C owner I was hoping developing the C line would mean firmware updates for years to come.

I mean, I’m sure there will still be some but maybe not as many if they developed a series of cameras in that line.

 

[Snapster]

Where's the camera for photographers like me who shoot stills almost exclusively and would like ~30mpix on a full frame sensor? I.e. the OG R updated with Digic X, latest autofocus and potentially IBIS. An R6 level variant focused less on FPS and video and more on resolution and image quality for stills. R5 is overkill for me in both resolution and price.

 

[Sporgon]

Where's the camera for photographers like me who shoot stills almost exclusively and would like ~30mpix on a full frame sensor? I.e. the OG R updated with Digic X, latest autofocus and potentially IBIS. An R6 level variant focused less on FPS and video and more on resolution and image quality for stills. R5 is overkill for me in both resolution and price.

I’m in the same boat. The R6 is capable of so many things I just don’t need, but will be paying for. Also, and I know this is purely psychosomatic on my part, the plastic body annoys me for the money. As a long term 5DS user I’m no longer bothered about the difference between 30 and 20mp.
The current R fits, but then I have the RP and although I’ve nearly changed it for the R a couple of times when it comes to the crunch I can’t do it because I really like the form factor, and with the little grip extension it’s one of the most comfortable cameras I’ve ever held (with relatively small lenses).
Same build as the R6, but at least the RP is cheap.

 

[vangelismm]

Where's the camera for photographers like me who shoot stills almost exclusively and would like ~30mpix on a full frame sensor? I.e. the OG R updated with Digic X, latest autofocus and potentially IBIS. An R6 level variant focused less on FPS and video and more on resolution and image quality for stills. R5 is overkill for me in both resolution and price.

Unfortunately the 24MP R6 mark ii seems to be the Canon answer.

 

[motofotog]

Has Canon or camera industry has ditched APS-H crop sensors?

 

[koenkooi]

[...] I have the RP [...] with the little grip extension it’s one of the most comfortable cameras I’ve ever held (with relatively small lenses).[...]

When I rented the R7 I came across this: https://www.printables.com/model/312874-canon-eos-r7-grip-manfrotto-200pl-and-screw
I printed both versions and settled on the regular one:

That printed extension had the same effect on the R7 as the EG-E1 had on my RP. It it changed the experience from "Why did they make it so short?!?" to "Hey, this is like my R5, but much lighter." It worked especially well with the RF100-500.
If Canon releases a new, small R body I really hope there will be a metal grip extension available, from Canon, Smallrig or someone with a CNC in their garage.

 

[Maximilian]

Where's the camera for photographers like me who shoot stills almost exclusively and would like ~30mpix on a full frame sensor? ...

Unfortunately the 24MP R6 mark ii seems to be the Canon answer.

Would have been exactly my reply, maybe without "Unfortunately"

 

[Maximilian]

Has Canon or camera industry has ditched APS-H crop sensors?

For what we know now APS-H crop is dead since the discontinuation of the EOS-1D Mark IV ten years ago.
(even though Canon did develop some R&D high MP sensors)

 

[Chaitanya]

For what we know now APS-H crop is dead since the discontinuation of the EOS-1D Mark IV ten years ago.
(even though Canon did develop some R&D high MP sensors)

Its possible that sensor size might have found its niche with industrial cameras, but other than some random news of new sensors we dont hear about APS-H much these days.

 

[john1970]

Interesting, I'm not sure if there would be anything APS-C that would fit in between the R10 and R7 since they do share a few specs. What would make sense to me is an entry level Full Frame to replace the RP, it would be above the R10 and sit below the R7 and it would be named R9 or R8 or maybe RP II, please keep the viewfinder for it.

I agree with this opinion. Personally I do not see a need for a camera between the R10 @$900 and the R7 @$1500. An inexpensive FF camera that replaces both the EOS R and EOS RP might make more sense since both of those models are the oldest in the lineup. 2023-2024 should be interesting in terms of lens and camera bodies.

I also find it odd that there is no mention of the EOS R1 unless Canon really is not releasing it until Q1 2024, which is basically four years after the 1Dx Mark III release.

 

[PhotoGenerous]

I agree with this opinion. Personally I do not see a need for a camera between the R10 @$900 and the R7 @$1500. An inexpensive FF camera that replaces both the EOS R and EOS RP might make more sense since both of those models are the oldest in the lineup. 2023-2024 should be interesting in terms of lens and camera bodies.

I also find it odd that there is no mention of the EOS R1 unless Canon really is not releasing it until Q1 2024, which is basically four years after the 1Dx Mark III release.

It could a form factor change as the main differentiator. An option without an EVF.

I know I find myself using it less and less these days.

For this and the R50, a release of two new bodies without an EVF.

 

[entoman]

So the R or RP are now being regressed as crops???

Would that be a bad thing?

In the case of the RP, I'd guess that the model is almost entirely bought by novices, who just want a very simple MILC from a big name brand. I doubt if they appreciate the extra quality they could get from full frame, but just buy it on the basis of FF being promoted as "better", by marketing departments, salespersons and photographer friends.

In the case of the R, there *could* still be some demand for a cheapish FF model without IBIS. But I think Canon more likely to steer prospective purchasers in the direction of an IBIS-equipped, 24MP crop sensor body, as it gives them a few features/specifications to promote, other than just low price.

 

[entoman]

I’m in the same boat. The R6 is capable of so many things I just don’t need, but will be paying for. Also, and I know this is purely psychosomatic on my part, the plastic body annoys me for the money. As a long term 5DS user I’m no longer bothered about the difference between 30 and 20mp.
The current R fits, but then I have the RP and although I’ve nearly changed it for the R a couple of times when it comes to the crunch I can’t do it because I really like the form factor, and with the little grip extension it’s one of the most comfortable cameras I’ve ever held (with relatively small lenses).
Same build as the R6, but at least the RP is cheap.

To be honest I think we *all* have cameras capable of so many things that we just don't need. For example I need/want at least 40MP, so I got the R5, but I don't shoot video and 8K is just ridiculous overkill for me. I think we just have to accept that in order to get one thing we want/need, we also have to accept that we'll get stuck with a high price and a few features that we'll likely never use.