Canon Adds EOS R50 and EOS R8 to the Growing EOS R Mirrorless Camera System
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. But I fully agree.
I wouldn't count on pure spec sheets compared to real life experience/measurements, esp. when looking at the two points "resolution" and "EVF".
About resolution look here, for example.
The other two are worked out correct.
And I fear that the R replacement moved upmarket and is called R6/R6 II.
Maybe Canon will release something else here. But then the number of FF bodies becomes huge.
Pricewise there would be a place/gap though.
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If I had to choose between only be allowed to use an R or an R8 to shoot with for a whole year, the choice wouldn’t be hard.
No weather sealing, smaller battery, poorer ergonomic, lower MP.
The R8 is in many ways NOT an upgrade over the R.
Its more an RP mark II.
No weather sealing, smaller battery, poorer ergonomic, lower MP.
The R8 is in many ways NOT an upgrade over the R.
Its more an RP mark II.
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I totally agree! When I read the specs sheet (in recess between lessons) I didn't notice the R8 doesn't feature weather sealing. For me, this is an essential feature, much more needed than IBIS. The R8 sounds like an RP with a new sensor, Digic X and way better AF. It is a downgrade in many ways compared to the R.
This means, the R9 will be an even more stripped ff entry level camera, if it ever sees the light of day.
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The RF 24-50mm looks a like a great option for hiking. Pair it with the 16mm F2.8 and you have really light weight and quite a versatile range. So far, I've been hiking with the 16mm, 35mm and the 70-200mm F4) but the first option sounds intriguing as well.
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There's an AF/MF button (not a front switch like the R10) on the back of the R50.
About the joystick, is impossible to work with the single point af without a joystick; otherwise you're bounded to use the touch screen to move the af point, making it full of fingerprints, and cleaning it every 5 minutes.
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I always see people mention this but I never have any issues with manual focus when using back button focus.
I have my RP in front of me right now with the RF 50mm f/1.8 mounted with the control ring set to Focus, I have back button focus enabled (ie changing the shutter button to only metering start), and then lens electronic MF set to one-shot->enabled. I can turn the focus ring at any time to manually focus.
One possible workaround for people who use shutter button focus is saving the settings above to a custom shooting mode, and you can treat that as your AF/MF switch.
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FWIW, I feel there's space between R8 and R6/R6II for a body with a full size battery, one single card slot, but with IBIS, and better controls like a second dial, maybe not the joystick...space is there, for sure, I hope the will fill it in the near future, as that space would actually be "my" preferred space, and I would gladly sell my R6 to step down a little, but not to the point of the R8.
But from a mkt perspective, I'm not sure they're going to fill it soon, the MSRP shut be over R8 and under R6 II, so at the exact point of an used R6, so they should do a FF "R7,5" with something better then a used R6 (just a 4mpx sensor increase wouldn't be enough I think).
But real problem is how they're going to call it? Under R6 level there's already R7, which is and will be an aps level, and under that the R8 already...if they wanted to present something in between, the R8 should have been called R9...calling R8 for me means there wouldn't be anything else above it.
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I utilize MF/AF switch all the time especially when shooting static subject from tripod, or even moving subject in extreme challenging light condition (as prefocused).
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In Germany, the R sells for 1.299 € or 1.399 €. The R8 is priced at 1.799 €... I'd choose the R everyday over the R8 offering because the R8 is only better in the AF performance and FPS. If you absolutely need great AF and FPS, I guess the R7 is the best offering despite being APS-C.
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I love tve these paid for quotes
"“My work is a lot about movement and not missing a beat with the fast shutter on the EOS R8 is so important to me as an artist.” Jasper Soloff – Photographer and Director"
Well you might actually miss a beat, if you have to change that Crap LpE17 battery.
"“My work is a lot about movement and not missing a beat with the fast shutter on the EOS R8 is so important to me as an artist.” Jasper Soloff – Photographer and Director"
Well you might actually miss a beat, if you have to change that Crap LpE17 battery.
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As I said, pricewise there would be a place/gap though.
But what would be the "relevant" differentiation to the more expensive R6II? One slot? Less rugged? Again no IBIS? Not enough, AFAIK how Canon works.
And maybe that is just your and our problem, as Canon has already decided that there will be no FF between R6 II and R8.
Sad but quite possible, isn't it?
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Why does it matter? Im sure its fast enough to support what the camera is capable of.
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Yes, I believe so; as I said, if they wanted to leave some space for another middle tier body, today they would have released an "R9".
I don't see them releasing a future R9 with specs inferior to R8; but still, I see a HUGE technical gap between R8 and R6/R6II, it's very starnge that Canon, that really loves to have plenty of cameras with same sensor/processor/af, just differentiate by body size, battery type, etc, wouldn't find a way to implement a camera in between...other then actually already having it, and being called R7...I may imagine that their strategy is "you want cheap FF there's R8, you want serious FF you'll start from R6 upwards, you need something in between? Buy aps, as we're gonna protect the ff line, we're not giving you pro functions in a semi-pro body for cheap like we did with 6D in the past".
...guess what? I exactly had a 6D, which is a camera tier that, at least today, is not expected to be available in R line.
The R8 (and RP), in comparison (at least just for the battery type), is way inferior to what the 6D was, despite being both the cheapest FF bodies you can buy. For the same price of a 6D they gave us a technical inferior entry point to FF, so price has not increased, but relative quality and features have dropped drastically.
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Agreed! A successor to the RP, with a better sensor.
And I'll definitely not replace my EOS R with the R8, the R seems to have a much better build (magnesium chassis, wheather sealing, LP 6 etc...).
If I was interested in video, things might be different, though.
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