Canon Adds EOS R50 and EOS R8 to the Growing EOS R Mirrorless Camera System

In Germany, the R sells for 1.299 € or 1.399 €. The R8 is priced at 1.799 €... I'd choose the R everyday over the R8 offering because the R8 is only better in the AF performance and FPS. If you absolutely need great AF and FPS, I guess the R7 is the best offering despite being APS-C.
It seems like everyone's dumping their a7r4 like crazy. You can buy it for 200€ more. 2nd hand a7r4 vs new r8. Yeah. Someone needs to do something with their prices in Europe.
 
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Yep. I use an RP as my EDC, I've had my RP since it was released, and plan to cycle in the R8 as soon as funds allow because it is a superior camera. People like to poo poo the battery life of the RP, but I've honestly not found it to be much of an issue, at least not the way I use the camera. If you leave the camera on with the rear LCD screen facing out and on, and all the high performance features turned on, it's going to understandably get terrible battery life, but if you're sensible and aware that it doesn't have a giant battery, and operate accordingly, it's actually not as bad as the internet tends to yell and scream about. Could it be better? Sure, but it's not so bad that it's unusable.
On my RP I could get almost a complete morning of shooting in the field out of it, usually 1000-1500 shots. When using the EF100-400L II the IS would drain the battery faster.

I still have 2 LP-E17 batteries, so I don't foresee many issue if I decide to get an R8.
 
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Well you might actually miss a beat, if you have to change that Crap LpE17 battery.
So sad that Canon didn’t make exactly the camera you want, which apparently is a dirt-cheap, small, highly capable FF camera that uses the LP-E19 battery in a compartment designed with the spell Hermione used on her purse.

So thrilled that now we’ll all have to read your incessant perseveration for a few more months or years, until the purple unicorn craps that camera into your eagerly waiting hands.
 
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Excluding video features yes, there's no point IMHO in buying a R8 over the R.
I like the R as a body, good image quality, but some of its features are outdated.
The shutter is very loud and in silent mode, the rolling shutter is very bad.

This is a lot lighter, way more usable electronic shutter, AF is miles ahead, much better to use for travel on the street.
And its sensor is more advanced in terms of ISO and dynamic range, so overall IQ looks to be better.
 
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...guess what? I exactly had a 6D, which is a camera tier that, at least today, is not expected to be available in R line.
The R8 (and RP), in comparison (at least just for the battery type), is way inferior to what the 6D was, despite being both the cheapest FF bodies you can buy. For the same price of a 6D they gave us a technical inferior entry point to FF, so price has not increased, but relative quality and features have dropped drastically.
You could say the 6D was a product management mistake, because it had a better sensor than the much more expensive 5DIII at that time, and could completely replace the 5DIII for many use cases such as travel and landscape, at a lower price point and weight. Apparently Canon learned from their mistake. Imagine they'd give us an improved R5 sensor in a smaller package, same battery, top LCD, just sightly more fiddly buttons and slower AF at half the price.... It won't happen.
 
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On my RP I could get almost a complete morning of shooting in the field out of it, usually 1000-1500 shots. When using the EF100-400L II the IS would drain the battery faster.

I still have 2 LP-E17 batteries, so I don't foresee many issue if I decide to get an R8.
I have three LP-E17 (from M6, M6II and the spare I got with the M6), and a fourth will come with the R8 (like you, I preordered and have time to decide if I want to keep it).
 
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R8 on the other hand is seriously good for its asking price(though dont understand quirkiness around USB charging as pointed out in one of the hands-on preview).
What quirkiness? Do you mean the comment from Bryan/TDP shared from a friend, “…a power source with a capacity of 5 Volts at 3 Amps (or higher) and a true USB Type-C connection (not a USB Type-B to USB Type-C cable) are required?”

I suspect that means his friend tried using a phone charger to charge the R8, and it didn’t work. Not surprising. My R3 and M6II also require an iPad/laptop-type USB-C charger and cable.
 
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During the last few months the Z5 body was sold for 1050,- EUR in Germany, with the R8 at 1800 EUR.. Now it went back up in price, but even so it seems to be the substantially better camera. Hard to argue against it for a newcomer right now.
Still, the numbers of battery life are wrong:
The R8 battery life is 370 / 220. That are the values I get from Canon.
 
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I have three LP-E17 (from M6, M6II and the spare I got with the M6), and a fourth will come with the R8 (like you, I preordered and have time to decide if I want to keep it).
The 3rd LP-E17 went bad a few weeks ago, it wouldn't charge anymore, not in the dedicated AC charger, inside the body or using a 3rd party charger :( I didn't want to get a replacement because I almost never empty the battery in the M6II in a day and 1st party LP-E17s are $$$$$$$.

If Canon decides to do an R200 based on the M200, I have even more spare LP-E12 batteries to use on that :)
 
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I would have seriously considered the R8 if it had IBIS. Without it I can't justify spending that much money. The comparisons to the Nikon Z5 are pretty disappointing. And the bigger battery, which I have in my APS-C 80D, would have been nice. Guess I'll be living with my RP for a while.
 
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What quirkiness? Do you mean the comment from Bryan/TDP shared from a friend, “…a power source with a capacity of 5 Volts at 3 Amps (or higher) and a true USB Type-C connection (not a USB Type-B to USB Type-C cable) are required?”

I suspect that means his friend tried using a phone charger to charge the R8, and it didn’t work. Not surprising. My R3 and M6II also require an iPad/laptop-type USB-C charger and cable.
Practically speaking: a USB-C PD 3.x compliant brick that has a 9V mode that allows more than 2A and has a 5V mode. Since every revision of the PD spec makes previously mandatory things optional, it's hard to give a simple recommendation. But, vigorously handwaving to look more convincing: if it is 18W or more and has a PD logo, it should work. It will charge at 5V and use 9V when turned on.

The R5 and M6II also charge directly from my 2020 13" Macbook Pro, just don't leave it overnight doing so. I've had to do an NVRAM+SMC reset after doing that to revive it. Twice, since I'm a slow learner :)
 
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The R5 and M6II also charge directly from my 2020 13" Macbook Pro, just don't leave it overnight doing so. I've had to do an NVRAM+SMC reset after doing that to revive it. Twice, since I'm a slow learner :)
I haven’t tried using a Mac for pass-through charging. Generally when I travel, I’m using my camera or my computer but not both, so I just use the charging brick and cable on whichever device I’m leaving behind. For travel, I generally bring a 96W charger, I find that works fine for my 16” M1 Pro and it’s smaller/lighter than the 140W brick that ships with that Mac.
 
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Practically speaking: a USB-C PD 3.x compliant brick that has a 9V mode that allows more than 2A and has a 5V mode. Since every revision of the PD spec makes previously mandatory things optional, it's hard to give a simple recommendation. But, vigorously handwaving to look more convincing: if it is 18W or more and has a PD logo, it should work. It will charge at 5V and use 9V when turned on.
If I remember correctly, R5 requires 9V (18W) PD when charging and 20V (45W) PD for powering while turned on.
 
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