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Good job you had the D500 and 200-500 at hand, we all know that kind of image is impossible with a Canon combo¹. ::)

In all seriousness the reason I looked the camera info up was because I found the bokeh pretty busy and wondered if it was the lens or the background or simply an interaction of the two.

¹: Yes I do realize they were actually shot with the Nikon gear.
 
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privatebydesign said:
Good job you had the D500 and 200-500 at hand, we all know that kind of image is impossible with a Canon combo¹. ::)

In all seriousness the reason I looked the camera info up was because I found the bokeh pretty busy and wondered if it was the lens or the background or simply an interaction of the two.

¹: Yes I do realize they were actually shot with the Nikon gear.

Scott, I don't have the ability to just eye the photo and recognize a characteristic in the bokeh but I did wonder if there was some effects due to the LP filter absence.

Jack
 
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privatebydesign said:
Good job you had the D500 and 200-500 at hand, we all know that kind of image is impossible with a Canon combo¹. ::)

In all seriousness the reason I looked the camera info up was because I found the bokeh pretty busy and wondered if it was the lens or the background or simply an interaction of the two.

¹: Yes I do realize they were actually shot with the Nikon gear.

Thanks for the comments, Jack and click.

Privatebydesign, the bokeh is busy. The background was busy, and at f6.3 it's not smoothing much out. The Nikon 200-500 is known to have a more distractive background compared to the sigma 150-600 as well.
 
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Ryananthony said:
sedwards, beautiful shots. I wish to capture shots of a snowy like that one day.

Here are some of a Barn owl from today.

Ryan
They are really great photos. But, like the one you posted in Bird Portraits, the downloads are very noisy. It's of interest to all of us weighing up the D500 to know what it is really like aside from its awesome AF. Are you processing RAW files or are these jpegs from the camera? Are you not bothering to suppress noise?
 
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AlanF said:
Ryananthony said:
sedwards, beautiful shots. I wish to capture shots of a snowy like that one day.

Here are some of a Barn owl from today.

Ryan
They are really great photos. But, like the one you posted in Bird Portraits, the downloads are very noisy. It's of interest to all of us weighing up the D500 to know what it is really like aside from its awesome AF. Are you processing RAW files or are these jpegs from the camera? Are you not bothering to suppress noise?

Alan, although I share your interest, I think it might be a bit much to expect someone just investing a lot of money in their gear to start digging deeply for its shortcomings. Like me with the 1DX2, there are somethings that aren't up to the 5D4 level but I prefer not to make them my focus or it tends to spoil the experience. Just my thoughts. :)

Jack
 
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Jack Douglas said:
AlanF said:
Ryananthony said:
sedwards, beautiful shots. I wish to capture shots of a snowy like that one day.

Here are some of a Barn owl from today.

Ryan
They are really great photos. But, like the one you posted in Bird Portraits, the downloads are very noisy. It's of interest to all of us weighing up the D500 to know what it is really like aside from its awesome AF. Are you processing RAW files or are these jpegs from the camera? Are you not bothering to suppress noise?

Alan, although I share your interest, I think it might be a bit much to expect someone just investing a lot of money in their gear to start digging deeply for its shortcomings. Like me with the 1DX2, there are somethings that aren't up to the 5D4 level but I prefer not to make them my focus or it tends to spoil the experience. Just my thoughts. :)

Jack

Jack, that is unduly defensive - it's hardly digging deep to ask about noise levels and whether those are out of camera jpegs or RAW? They are Nikon shots posted on a Canon forum to show us what the new gear can do so of course we want to know what is going on with them.
 
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Hi Alan, Jack, Ryan.
Don’t forget the shots seen on the forum are squished as it were and not true representations of the shots until you open them in their own page!
Aside from that lots of superb shots recently, well done all.

Cheers, Graham.

AlanF said:
Jack Douglas said:
AlanF said:
Ryananthony said:
sedwards, beautiful shots. I wish to capture shots of a snowy like that one day.

Here are some of a Barn owl from today.

Ryan
They are really great photos. But, like the one you posted in Bird Portraits, the downloads are very noisy. It's of interest to all of us weighing up the D500 to know what it is really like aside from its awesome AF. Are you processing RAW files or are these jpegs from the camera? Are you not bothering to suppress noise?

Alan, although I share your interest, I think it might be a bit much to expect someone just investing a lot of money in their gear to start digging deeply for its shortcomings. Like me with the 1DX2, there are somethings that aren't up to the 5D4 level but I prefer not to make them my focus or it tends to spoil the experience. Just my thoughts. :)

Jack

Jack, that is unduly defensive - it's hardly digging deep to ask about noise levels and whether those are out of camera jpegs or RAW? They are Nikon shots posted on a Canon forum to show us what the new gear can do so of course we want to know what is going on with them.
 
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Alan, personally, good or bad I prefer to know every gory detail but that doesn't mean it necessary makes for a more enjoyable experience. Of course, we read reviews and discuss these things in technical threads. And some of those threads can get pretty heated. ;)

A thread dedicated to sharing bird photos may not fully align with your objective. The bottom line is that it's Ryan's call how much he wishes to delve into such things in this thread. I don't think my stance is being defensive, I'm just offering an observation and as always have no interest in dictating what others do. :)

Jack
 
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Sorry guys for the delayed response. Alan, I hope it doesn't bother you that I'm posting Nikon images in this thread. I have only ever shot canon, and still own canon gear, but I purchased the d500, for my wife to pair with the very light weight 300PF and compare. This had nothing to do with the Artie thread and I didn't actually mention they were on a d500 because I figured it didn't matter. I've been sharing images on here for a while and I hope that can continue regardless of what it was taken on.

The images are noisy, especially compared to my 1dx. But I have never used noise reduction on any of the images I've posted. I don't like the loss of detail and much prefer the noise over the two. Perhaps I'm not skilled enough with that.
 
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Ryananthony said:
Sorry guys for the delayed response. Alan, I hope it doesn't bother you that I'm posting Nikon images in this thread. I have only ever shot canon, and still own canon gear, but I purchased the d500, for my wife to pair with the very light weight 300PF and compare. This had nothing to do with the Artie thread and I didn't actually mention they were on a d500 because I figured it didn't matter. I've been sharing images on here for a while and I hope that can continue regardless of what it was taken on.

The images are noisy, especially compared to my 1dx. But I have never used noise reduction on any of the images I've posted. I don't like the loss of detail and much prefer the noise over the two. Perhaps I'm not skilled enough with that.

For what it's worth NIK selective NR can kill background noise without applying it to the subject material if you wish to bother doing that.

Jack
 
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Valvebounce said:
Hi Alan, Jack, Ryan.
Don’t forget the shots seen on the forum are squished as it were and not true representations of the shots until you open them in their own page!
Aside from that lots of superb shots recently, well done all.

Cheers, Graham.

AlanF said:
Jack Douglas said:
AlanF said:
Ryananthony said:
sedwards, beautiful shots. I wish to capture shots of a snowy like that one day.

Here are some of a Barn owl from today.

Ryan
They are really great photos. But, like the one you posted in Bird Portraits, the downloads are very noisy. It's of interest to all of us weighing up the D500 to know what it is really like aside from its awesome AF. Are you processing RAW files or are these jpegs from the camera? Are you not bothering to suppress noise?

Alan, although I share your interest, I think it might be a bit much to expect someone just investing a lot of money in their gear to start digging deeply for its shortcomings. Like me with the 1DX2, there are somethings that aren't up to the 5D4 level but I prefer not to make them my focus or it tends to spoil the experience. Just my thoughts. :)

Jack

Jack, that is unduly defensive - it's hardly digging deep to ask about noise levels and whether those are out of camera jpegs or RAW? They are Nikon shots posted on a Canon forum to show us what the new gear can do so of course we want to know what is going on with them.

I wrote that the downloads are noisy - I always download attachments to examine or look at Flickr to see the originals and hopefully the EXIFS as I want to learn how others use settings etc and what a camera can do. I participate to share information, amongst other matters. What I wanted to know here was whether they were out of camera jpegs or RAW, and it looks as if I won't know and will have to try a D500 myself.
 
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There is so much talk about Nikon AF being so superior but I find my 5DIV and 400mm DO II really reliable. With the bare lens, I was able to get shot after shot of puffins whizzing past last year, with the 1.4xTC it rarely misses for me. With the 2xTC at 800mm it's relatively slow, but it's really quite good for distant birds. This morning in a pair of teals skimmed across the lake 60m in front of my hide. I wasn't ready but fired off two shots. The light was pretty poor, but I got acceptable images. The drake in front is in good focus but the duck behind is on the edge of the depth of field.
 

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Alan, no problem with your various assertions other than your interests might fall more squarely in a technical gear thread. In that case I'd expect the various points to be discussed and debated with gusto. All I've suggested is that folk posting to a birds thread might be more interested in the esthetics, composition, type of bird or pose and less in the technical. A while back someone commented that threads like this are so civil and enjoyable without insults be hurled around. ;D I tend to agree.

Now if you started a thread on the capability of the D500 and I'd just bought one I'd probably be thrilled to contribute, for your benefit and others who'd be interested. My skin would be thick enough to handle whatever started to appear and it would actually be fun. I don't control CR and I'm not trying to influence you away from gear questions in a bird thread (I'm also interested), rather, as previously stated I am just offering my thoughts. Perhaps others may wish to contribute theirs and whatever the outcome I'm fine with it. Perhaps my position is not unlike suggesting that politics not be discussed at the Christmas dinner table. ;)

Jack
 
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Canon Rumors is a web forum set up to discuss the latest Canon gear and its merits compared with other makes and how it affects your photography. As such, it is populated mainly by gearheads who want to elicit and exchange information, and do so at every opportunity. I am not going to start up a new thread every time I want to ask a technical question about a particular post. I have learned a great deal here about all aspects of photography and want to see the openness and exchange continue.
 
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One last time. Alan, I have no problem with your wants. I frequent CR for more or less the same reasons as you. Furthermore, I have no interest in dictating what anyone does. However, if you don't find all your technical needs being met on a bird photo display thread, I was just offering an explanation for why that might be the case.

Keep up the good work, lovely bird postings and your helpful technical observations! :)

Jack
 
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