Canon Adds EOS R50 and EOS R8 to the Growing EOS R Mirrorless Camera System

[SnowMiku]

If Canon want to show real commitment to RF-S they should convert all the EF-M lenses to RF-S and keep them at the same aperture and same focal range or slightly better.

 

[davidespinosa]

In case anyone cares, the R50 is made in Taiwan.
The video starts at the relevant part, so just press play.

 

[heroglu]

Hi everyone!
I didn't want to revive the topic, but I had to in order not to open a new one.
This is my first writing on this forum. I have checked all the messages in this topic and also searched for what I wanted to find but couldn't come up to any similar topic or contect. I'm a R50 owner and new with the camera world so please excuse me if I ask something simple or looks rookie to you all.
What I would like to know is that whether this R50 has adequate hardware to record 4K 60FPS videos or not. I know it records up to 4K ~30 FPS now but I am curious if this could be change in the future with a firmware update or not. Please let me know the hardware (ie. buffer size, processor speed, ram, software etc.) is capable or not if you have the knowledge.
Thanks for your future replies.
Regards.

 

[koenkooi]

Hi everyone!
I didn't want to revive the topic, but I had to in order not to open a new one.
This is my first writing on this forum. I have checked all the messages in this topic and also searched for what I wanted to find but couldn't come up to any similar topic or contect. I'm a R50 owner and new with the camera world so please excuse me if I ask something simple or looks rookie to you all.
What I would like to know is that whether this R50 has adequate hardware to record 4K 60FPS videos or not. I know it records up to 4K ~30 FPS now but I am curious if this could be change in the future with a firmware update or not. Please let me know the hardware (ie. buffer size, processor speed, ram, software etc.) is capable or not if you have the knowledge.
Thanks for your future replies.
Regards.

I can state with a high degree of certainty that it won’t be added in a firmware update. Apart from Canon almost never doing that, the sensor in the R50 is way too slow for that.

 

[heroglu]

I can state with a high degree of certainty that it won’t be added in a firmware update. Apart from Canon almost never doing that, the sensor in the R50 is way too slow for that.

Thanks for you reply. I understand the Canon's approach not adding some extra feature like that with a firmware update as you said but what I am not sure about the sensor's speed subject. What do you mean when you say the sensor is too slow? Please enlighten me.

 

[DhlcadR6]

Thanks for you reply. I understand the Canon's approach not adding some extra feature like that with a firmware update as you said but what I am not sure about the sensor's speed subject. What do you mean when you say the sensor is too slow? Please enlighten me.

Canon will not make R50 has 4k60 capability as R10 has it(with heavy crop).

It's technologically possible but Canon segregates products so well : (

 

[heroglu]

Canon will not make R50 has 4k60 capability as R10 has it(with heavy crop).

It's technologically possible but Canon segregates products so well : (

I see. So it will be surprising if that situation occurs. Thanks for the reply.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Canon will not make R50 has 4k60 capability as R10 has it(with heavy crop).

It's technologically possible but Canon segregates products so well : (

The R10 has a bigger body.
It might not be technically possible for the R50.

 

[heroglu]

The R10 has a bigger body.
It might not be technically possible for the R50.

I will ask for it to Canon. Thanks for your contributions.

 

[vjlex]

Any rumors on an R50 replacement that I may have missed? I'm still waiting on an RF-S equivalent of the fabulous EF-M 22 f/2 before I replace my M50. But the upgrade bug is biting and I may get a compact R body sooner rather than later.

 

[DhlcadR6]

Any rumors on an R50 replacement that I may have missed? I'm still waiting on an RF-S equivalent of the fabulous EF-M 22 f/2 before I replace my M50. But the upgrade bug is biting and I may get a compact R body sooner rather than later.

Right now RF 28mm pancake is the closest to EF-M 22mm , I know some dislike 28mm on APS-C is not wide enough....but IMHO RF 28mm is more versatile as it's both APS-C and FF applicable.

 

[Dragon]

Right now RF 28mm pancake is the closest to EF-M 22mm , I know some dislike 28mm on APS-C is not wide enough....but IMHO RF 28mm is more versatile as it's both APS-C and FF applicable.

I haven't yet done a resolution comparison between the EF-M 22mm on the M6 II vs the R 28mm on the R7, but my sense is that the 28mm will compare favorably and it is still quite good in the FF corners thanks to the rather wild molded elements. The 16mm is also quite good in the APS-c field of view, so the options for RF crop frame are not as limited as some would like to think. It would be nice to see a very compact RF-s body, maybe with a pop-up viewfinder, that could truly replace the M6 II for portability, but then the M50 way outsold the M6 II, so still keeping the M6 II and not holding my breath.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Right now RF 28mm pancake is the closest to EF-M 22mm , I know some dislike 28mm on APS-C is not wide enough....but IMHO RF 28mm is more versatile as it's both APS-C and FF applicable.

When I first started out, I thought I could only use EF-S lenses on my Canon APS-C DSLR.
Even though I know better now with RF and RF-S, it is the f/2.8 that would give me pause.
I am still hoping for an RF-S f/2 pancake lens.

 

[kmrahe]

When I first started out, I thought I could only use EF-S lenses on my Canon APS-C DSLR.
Even though I know better now with RF and RF-S, it is the f/2.8 that would give me pause.
I am still hoping for an RF-S f/2 pancake lens.

Not to mention that an RF-S lens on an R50 is going to come closer to the ergonomics of an M50 with any lens than an R50 with an RF (or any adapted) lens will.

 

[koenkooi]

Not to mention that an RF-S lens on an R50 is going to come closer to the ergonomics of an M50 with any lens than an R50 with an RF (or any adapted) lens will.

For wide angle zooms, yes, but the 16/28/50STM lenses are very compact and have a decent enough price point to be attractive to crop users.

Having said that, I would welcome more converted EF-M designs, like the 22 and 32. And a body with a useable electronic shutter.

 

[Dragon]

For wide angle zooms, yes, but the 16/28/50STM lenses are very compact and have a decent enough price point to be attractive to crop users.

Having said that, I would welcome more converted EF-M designs, like the 22 and 32. And a body with a useable electronic shutter.

And just think, you can put that 28 on an R8 and have a FF walkabout camera that is only a tiny bit bigger than the R50 and still have an ILC.

 

[koenkooi]

And just think, you can put that 28 on an R8 and have a FF walkabout camera that is only a tiny bit bigger than the R50.

The 28mm has been on my R8 for 80% of the pictures I took since that lens came out. I do wish for a more compact system, but that combination is very hard to beat!

 

[kmrahe]

For wide angle zooms, yes, but the 16/28/50STM lenses are very compact and have a decent enough price point to be attractive to crop users.

Compact in depth, yes, but not width, which for me would be the main issue with an R50 using those lenses.

 

[Dragon]

The 28mm has been on my R8 for 80% of the pictures I took since that lens came out. I do wish for a more compact system, but that combination is very hard to beat!

Any more compact and it either won't be FF or won't be an ILC and you still won't gain much or won't have anything to hold onto, or won't have an EVF (e.g. Sony RX1).

 

[koenkooi]

Any more compact and it either won't be FF or won't be an ILC and you still won't gain much or won't have anything to hold onto, or won't have an EVF (e.g. Sony RX1).

I am still very fond of the orignal M and 22mm. I don’t mind crop, just the current Canon models.