Canon announces development of the EOS R5 full-frame mirrorless camera

[davidhfe]

why are you guys saying Tool is going to eat it? lol? i'm not a fan or a hater of him.... but common, they barely said anything about the body? and no info on price? and this is Canon after all... i am automatically assuming this is 8k video that has been gimped by Canon's cripple hammer until they give full details proving otherwise.

He was, if I remember, (and I ain't gonna go re-watch it) pretty confident that the 8k would be a time-lapse "which we've already seen in the Nikon". With an official announcement out the gate, anything other than "real" 8K30 would be universally skewered.

 

[David - Sydney]

What do we know now:

- This is the next gen Canon MILC
- New sensor and processor
- 12/20FPS
- 8k something
- April release?
- It does NOT have the smart controller (which I thought had been rumored)

As we don't know the resolution, and we assume 45MP due to 8k, could it be that this is the 75MP sensor in a crop mode for 8k?

Doubt it, but I hope so. I will hate to wait for the RS while you all are out shooting with the R5

April release is for the cloud feature I think... much as I wish for April to be the available date

 

[Quarkcharmed]

Good one. I wonder how well the flip screen will work with an L-bracket.

here's a better shot of the back

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[Richard CN]

So much good news but not a word about the dynamic range of the R5. Will it handle a decent nightscape with the moon in it?..

that's impossible IMO. the moon properly exposed is nearly same as daylight exposure.

 

[mb66energy]

I am glad that I have skipped the 5D iv and the R while trying out 5D classic and now using the RP (I have payed slightly above 1000 EUR for Body+Adapter+RF35 during a very cool offer).
Now I can try to make me fit (photographically) for a camera which seems to have very good video features and reasonable high resolution plus the speed if you need it. And with a flippy screen which is a must for me.
And great to see IBIS which might help a little bit with the 5.6 400 and 2.8 100 macro + a lot with RF 35 and hopefully some RF +/-17 4.0 IS Macro which I hope to see soon (I have no info about it but it would fit perfectly for a small setup with 17 / 35 / 70...200mm or 17 / 35 / 100 all macro).

 

[Jethro]

DP is saying 'Likely 40MP'.

Are they likely to have insider knowledge??

 

[Optics Patent]

Am I the only one that hates Canon's flip out screens?

I rejected Canon RP my first time trying to switch from Nikon in part because the flip up Nikon screen is so much easier for going low and fast (toddler shots). But my second time I got used to the flipper. And found that in vertical shooting it works like a flipper.

 

[vjlex]

I am remaining optimistic as this camera seems anything but typical. Two weeks ago we were all calling bullcrap on the specs.

I think people doubting the specs were in the minority. At least here. A CR3 is generally a pretty safe bet.

 

[JPAZ]

So.....

Not a big fan of being an early adopter, especially because price goes down a year or so later and,
We have details but still waiting on specifics about a few things and,
I see a "mode" dial atop and a fxn dial near the shutter and the dial on the back (looks like areal dial and not a toggle like on the RP) but we really don't know yet and,
No information about weatherproofing or what type of cards will go into the slots and,
No info on the battery or battery life and,
No pricing yet....

BUT..........

ME WANT ONE!

Guess it is time to start selling a few things to get ready.

 

[davidhfe]

I think people doubting the specs were in the minority. At least here. A CR3 is generally a pretty safe bet.

Back before it got CR3'd, I definitely felt we were nearing "5D4 video firmware update" territory.

I'm very, very happy to be wrong.

 

[Famateur]

I'm really excited. This will likely be my next camera body.

Aside from the fundamentals of resolution, frame rate and (for me fundamental) articulating screen, I'm looking forward to:

• Seeing what this all-new sensor can do. Guaranteed, it blows my current camera's sensor away. Everything else will just be gravy.
• In-body stabilization. It's honestly never been something that I've lusted after, but I'm keen to try it out.
• The dedicated Rate button. Sometimes, it's the little things...

Gonna need some time to save up. It was nice of Canon to give me a few months head start...

 

[-pekr-]

So what's there in the store for the 5DIV wedding pros, especially if you need/want to invest in strobes too? My wife is quite conservative and 5DIV suits her well. But I am an "investor" and a gadget lover. So - in order for us to buy new camera, we want/need the following:

- DR better at least 1/3 - 2/3 of a stop
- IBIS, so there is some advantage to our 24-70/2.8 II. The lens needs to be shared with the 5DIV as a backup
- 4K/30, FHD/60-120 for slow-mo, to start with the occassional video short clips
- Better AF, decent face detection, fast AF point selection
- Two cards slot
- Decent ergonomy, nice design
- Price 3500-3800 USD

Well, honestly, I expect all boxes being ticked for us, but hate the lack of the AF-ON. My wife finds the joystick being good enough, I find it still being slow. If some modern alghoritm allows me to switch between the faces and then it tracks the face automatically, then joystick is enough. But I don't want to chase a focus point around manually ...

 

[Pape]

That’s a nice glass half full attitude. But, it’s a disappointment to those of us who want some real extra reach. f/7.1 is better suited to low resolution sensors and it’s not going to take the full advantage of high resolution ones.

ITs direction canon wants steer birdlers,no 7d and smaller aperture on consumer lens. will be nice with 20-26mpix sensor and with 1.4x converter.
Maybe their high resolution model is so high megapixel that it just gives slow fps and they leave action autofocus off becouse they think nobody using it to action?

 

[Maximilian]

Somehow I am still hoping for less than 40 MP. But looking at the competition...

 

[Maximilian]

...
- Price 3500-3800 USD

Well, honestly, I expect all boxes being ticked for us...

Somehow I have a feeling in my guts that we'll see the MRSP getting into 4k $ direction and far north 4k € (incl. VAT) in Germany.
Although this would make me

 

[deleteme]

So much good news but not a word about the dynamic range of the R5. Will it handle a decent nightscape with the moon in it?..

Every manufacturer now knows to claim "excellent DR". However there are only the most meaningless numbers ever issued such as "14 stops of DR" delivered in a completely context free environment.
So yeah, I expect they will say it is great. What we need to do is actually get one and shoot with it.
I trust precisely no one other than myself to see if it delivers what I need for my work.
I have tested Sony, Canon and Nikon and the Canon might not keep up with the others at the extremes but then I don't deliver files to clients that I have to beat to death to work. No pro does.
If one is a hobbyist and has to yank a file 5 stops to get their cat to be visible. fine but then they could just take a photo that was actually lit and exposed correctly.

 

[Laslen]

Why are people saying it doesn't have AF-ON?

 

[Maximilian]

... the lack of the AF-ON. ...

AF-ON button is there, close to the joy stick. Or did I miss something in your post?

 

[Richard CN]

DP is saying 'Likely 40MP'.

Are they likely to have insider knowledge??

IMO. they are downplaying this as much as possible. Even putting 8K in quotes in the title, like it may not actually be real 8K.

if this was a Sony announcement they'd be all over it.

 

[Richard CN]

AF-ON button is there. Or did I miss something in your post?

The turbo charged AF-ON that is on the 1DX Mark III.