Canon EOS R6 Mark II – Here are some more specifications

It's not hard to beat the RP. The sensor is trash, canon cripple hammer at its finest. Its basically the same sensor style as in the 6d2.. aka . Hobbled to not compete with the next year upward.

I wish they would just use the bloody sensor from the 5d4. Do they feel like 30 megapixels is too close to the R5 45? sigh.
Thinking about what pictures you can make with any kind of todays DSLR or MILC I wouldn't call any of those "trash".
When that sensor was released with the 6D2 people were sceptic, but it turned out to be quite good.
Today I would call it "outdated", but still okay. TBH, it is one reason why I didn't buy an RP and hope for a Mk II of such a wonderfully small FF body.
"Trash" is definitely too extreme.
 
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Color me skeptical about this camera having the same sensor as an R3. If Canon does end up doing this then I'll be pretty disgruntled if we don't see more features applied to the R3 that help it stand out beyond just the superior ergonomics. A full-frame stacked sensor at this price point sounds way too good to be true. Then again, so did the R5's spec sheet before it became a reality.

I'm in the process of selling my R6 because of how much I hated using it with an R3 or an R5. The design of the camera's top dials and having no ability to save custom settings for video limit the camera a lot when you try to do more than one thing with it. If they come out with a second generation they BETTER not try take any input from the horrible R7 layout. Just give us an R3/R5 top plate and call it a day.
It's pretty obvious that it won't get a stacked sensor, because cropped 4k60p points towards a much slower readout.
I'm guessing with the full sensor 4k, rolling shutter will be somewhere in between the R5 (16ms) and the R6 (31ms)

It is likely to be a non-stacked BSI sensor, so dynamic range and ISO might be improved somewhat.
And yes, unfortunately I don't see them making it closer to an R5.
That's exactly the reason why it is so much cheaper, despite having many of the same features.
 
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Even if it borrows R3's sensor it will be still difficult for someone to upgrade from R6.
Releasing a R6 mk ii doesn't necessarily mean that Canon wants R6 users to upgrade. It just means they're upping their options available to new customers, current DSLR shooters who are about to switch to DSLM and most of all to have a more competitive offer compared to the competition. And therefore, a Mkii makes sense even if there are only small changes.

- stacked BSI 24mp sensor
- slightly better ergonomics (that new R7 dial comes to mind)
- maybe better EVF resolution
- no record time limitation

All great updates which make the camera more competitive but certainly not enough to justify most R6 users to upgrade. R6 users might upgrade to R6 mk iii in some years...
 
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If this rumor is true (CR 3 is basically a fact) it is fantastic news! I've been saying for weeks in R8 rumor section that a really good R8 (R successor) is only possible with a R6 mk ii so it doesn't cut into each other sales. So, if the R6 mk ii we can expect a great R8 camera for its value. Probably not the specs posted yesterday, but with IBIS, 30 mp, improved AF (over the R) and FPS. If both cameras are on the way, I´get one of them...

It really feels like Canon is reshuffling the line-up now. Make room for an R8 and than later have space for an R9 (RP successor).

Probably should sell my R while it is still worth the money...but I love it so much :)
 
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This camera seems...weird to me? Like, Canon can refresh 2 much older cameras that are in dire need of refreshing for their price point, so why do one that is selling well enough to hold its value even used (still $2100 or so on FredMiranda). I guess at least the R6 will go down in price finally when this is released? I love the R6 but I can't currently justify the price for a full frame Rebel (essentially what it is...)
 
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Same, it's a phenomenal stills body. One of the finest Canon has ever made. I never have thought once about it's megapickles count.

Video shortcomings, whatever..... I'm a photographer. It's the right tool for the job, for me.
It's crazy how often the R6 gets overlooked and downplayed on forums and Youtube. It's essentially a pocket 1DX, at an insanely good price. If you told me 5 years ago I'd be able to get that in a package I would have laughed. I get how we have new normals with generational leaps, but it really is unbelievable as a sports shooter. Personally own an R5, but have an R6 at work. We love it.
 
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I love the R6 but I can't currently justify the price for a full frame Rebel (essentially what it is...)
I can only assume you're calling it a full-frame Rebel due to its pixel count, which is not at all a fair assessment. The R6 and any Rebel are worlds apart.

- Full-frame, as you mentioned
- Mirrorless
- DIGIC X
- New AF system
- IBIS
- Dual card slots
- Control layout is superior
- Better ergonomics

The list goes on.
 
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This camera seems...weird to me? Like, Canon can refresh 2 much older cameras that are in dire need ...
I can understand that thought.
But Canon surely has an idea of how to approach and to segment the market.
To me in the eyes of Canon and looking at the MSRP I suppose the R6 (II) shall become what the 5D /5D II were in the past.
So refreshing the "cash cow" first seems logical to me.
 
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If this rumor is true (CR 3 is basically a fact) it is fantastic news! I've been saying for weeks in R8 rumor section that a really good R8 (R successor) is only possible with a R6 mk ii so it doesn't cut into each other sales. So, if the R6 mk ii we can expect a great R8 camera for its value. Probably not the specs posted yesterday, but with IBIS, 30 mp, improved AF (over the R) and FPS. If both cameras are on the way, I´get one of them...

It really feels like Canon is reshuffling the line-up now. Make room for an R8 and than later have space for an R9 (RP successor).

Probably should sell my R while it is still worth the money...but I love it so much :)
Your assessment makes a lot of sense to me. I think if they can make a few meaningful upgrades to the R6, they price near $3k without hurting sales of the higher res R5 or faster R3, and that would make room to price a stills focused R replacement just over $2k. Then, they can introduce an RP replacement around $1k to control that market share at the low end of the full frame market. Then, they throw everything they've got into an R1 and charge as much as they can.
 
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I would suspect it to have the new hot-shoe like the R3, faster AF, probably more capabilities in the AF, faster recording time. The R6 is a great camera as it is, so I wonder if there is a lot needed to change beside bit more MP and few small features.
 
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Your assessment makes a lot of sense to me. I think if they can make a few meaningful upgrades to the R6, they price near $3k without hurting sales of the higher res R5 or faster R3, and that would make room to price a stills focused R replacement just over $2k. Then, they can introduce an RP replacement around $1k to control that market share at the low end of the full frame market. Then, they throw everything they've got into an R1 and charge as much as they can.
I believe that's how it's going to happen. They'd have a complete lineup.
R1 - do it all camera
R3 - build for speed...
R5/ R5c/ R5s all-around and specialized pro cameras

R6 mkii - built for speed/ low light pros and enthusiasts
R7 - Wildlife APS-C
R8 - all around enthusiasts camera
R9 - full frame entry level

R10
R100
...and future rebels...
 
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If R6 II is getting close, I would assume the R5 II is getting close too.
And I am guessing that they are deliberately working to put them on different cycles. The two originals came out simultaneously, but maybe they want to not upgrade them the same year from now on. So the R5II might come out one or two years later than the R6II...and THEN we'll see a regular 4 year cycle (or however many years they decide on), with the upgrades coming out in alternation rather than together.
 
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If they can make the R10, they've plenty of parts lying around
And I'm glad they can make the R10. If my dedicated-copy-stand-macro T6i craps out, the R10 would fill that niche quite nicely (same size and resolution sensor). (On the other hand it might be total overkill...best to wait for the three digit models, perhaps.) I'll be in trouble, though if the lens craps out before the camera, since it might be hard to find another 100m macro lens that will work on an EF(S) mount.
 
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I can only assume you're calling it a full-frame Rebel due to its pixel count, which is not at all a fair assessment. The R6 and any Rebel are worlds apart.

- Full-frame, as you mentioned
- Mirrorless
- DIGIC X
- New AF system
- IBIS
- Dual card slots
- Control layout is superior
- Better ergonomics

The list goes on.
Thanks for listing all that, that comment which you responded to was absolute ignorant rubbish.
 
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I believe that's how it's going to happen. They'd have a complete lineup.
R1 - do it all camera
R3 - build for speed...
R5/ R5c/ R5s all-around and specialized pro cameras

R6 mkii - built for speed/ low light pros and enthusiasts
R7 - Wildlife APS-C
R8 - all around enthusiasts camera
R9 - full frame entry level

R10
R100
...and future rebels...
All I know is I need $2k-$3k saved up to buy either an R6 mk i, R6 mk ii, or R8 in 2023 depending on how this all shakes out. Can't imagine ever needing more than that for myself. I'm really happy with the RP, but the updated eye autofocus is these new cameras is incredible.
 
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