Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications

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#41
tomsop said:
i posted before but could not find it or any replies.


I have the Rebel XSI - I want video. This will be a substantial improvement but I do not understand the critiques. Seems majore one is the use of an old sensor. I want to have new technology in my components especially as you can see it has been 4 years since my last purchase. Should I wait for the 7DII since it appears it will have new components though more costly with additional features - I do not want to wait much longer beyond this late summer - other comments interpreting this spec list as a good deal or should I wait more? - Tom
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No one knows exactly what the 7Dii will have thus you have not had replies.... I'd be willing to bet $10 it has the same sensor, will not surprise me. However if you can wait for a nice surprise, then do so. Good things come to those who wait.
 
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#42
K-amps said:
They reused that sensor in several models across the line... so don't be surprised. If you are willing to spend $1500, perhaps a 7D is under consideration?
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I'd love a 7D, but have a hard time spending money on lets say an Iphone 4 knowing a 5 is a few months out with new tech. With that being said Even though the 70D or current 7D are capable camera's when I make the move from my 450D I'd like it to be the newest tech not 3 or 4 year old tech.
 
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#44
Hi all :)

Complete beginner here. Well even less than beginner since I haven't even got a camera yet!
I have the same question as tHarten. Will the Digic-V increase ISO performance (less noise at high ISO's) or is it completely irrelevant?

Thanks :)

Dionysis
 
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#46
adroid28 said:
Hi all :)

Complete beginner here. Well even less than beginner since I haven't even got a camera yet!
I have the same question as tHarten. Will the Digic-V increase ISO performance (less noise at high ISO's) or is it completely irrelevant?

Thanks :)

Dionysis
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Assuming it has the same sensor, yes the Digic 5 can produce less noise in jpegs due to better faster processing & Algorithms. However if sensor is same, then perhaps the RAW's will be the same too.
 
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#48
I really hope something comes out in the APS-C range that offers cleaner high ISO performance than the current rebel line. The T2i starts to break apart at ISO 1600, so it would be really great if Canon has improved the sensor/noise performance.
 
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#50
K-amps said:
adroid28 said:
Hi all :)

Complete beginner here. Well even less than beginner since I haven't even got a camera yet!
I have the same question as tHarten. Will the Digic-V increase ISO performance (less noise at high ISO's) or is it completely irrelevant?

Thanks :)

Dionysis
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Assuming it has the same sensor, yes the Digic 5 can produce less noise in jpegs due to better faster processing & Algorithms. However if sensor is same, then perhaps the RAW's will be the same too.
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Thank you for your answer :)

So that is quite useless since in any case to get the best quality/flexibility I will shoot in RAW. I can then use Denoise software that will be the same or better than the internal processing..

So if there is no new sensor in terms of quality I am going to get the same as the t2i... :o
But the most important thing is the image quality!! Surely that should improve in an upgrade..
 
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#51
neuroanatomist said:
Marine03 said:
...but have a hard time spending money on lets say an Iphone 4 knowing a 5 is a few months out with new tech...
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That's pretty much every iPhone generation. At least the xD series has a longer life cycle.
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Exactly I'd rather come in on the front end of a new sensor that will remain current for 3 years than one that is basically 1 gen behind.
 
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#52
tHarten said:
Or is the ISO performance improved on this body by using DIGIC V+?
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It's possible it will help the video out some, simply by being able to process faster and allowing for higher-res recording. I wouldn't expect any big difference in noise performance for video though.

Based on your needs, the video AF could be nice if it actually works. While the 10-20 won't really need it, other lenses can use it. And even with the 10-20, while you're running along with a glidecam, it'd be nice not to have to worry about focusing. Biggest feature for you, if you also take pictures, would be the AF and FPS. Makes it more likely you lock focus and get a cool shot in action.
adroid28 said:
So if there is no new sensor in terms of quality I am going to get the same as the t2i... :o
But the most important thing is the image quality!! Surely that should improve in an upgrade..
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Would have been nice to see an upgrade sensor, but IQ doesn't mean anything if your shot is out of focus, or you missed the moment. The AF will be a noticeable upgrade from the T3i, and the burst rate will also be a noticeable upgrade. Since many rebel users are people shooting their families and people running around, those are important. And most of them wouldn't notice the difference between an 18mp sensor or a 22mp sensor, except that maybe they'd need a slightly larger hard-drive with the larger sensor
 
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#53
As many others, the departure from mirror to prism caught my eyes in the first place.

I'm impressed with the layout of the buttons just beside the articulated LCD, it looks quite ergonomic. But from the front, I can't see clearly where the DoF preview button is. Any ideas?

And the top view, right in front of the hot-shoe, is that stereo mic? I wish it will perform well, but maybe I shouldn't hope too much. :D By the way, the prominent ISO button... I think this is a bit too much for most rebel buyer, isn't it? And the video switch, let's hope it won't be tripped too easily.

All in all, I think this is a beautiful camera. For those who is looking for their first SLR, they won't be disappointed (some days of confusion at most, I think :p). For those who understand how SLR works, this might not be our cup of tea, so bring either 70D or 7DII on!
 
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#56
telephonic said:
By the way, the prominent ISO button... I think this is a bit too much for most rebel buyer, isn't it? And the video switch, let's hope it won't be tripped too easily.
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The button layout on the back is the exact same as the T3i, and the only change on top is that the ISO button moves left as they got rid of the Display on/off button.

Marine03 said:
Is there supposed to be a press conference? If so I'm guessing that's when they would say something?
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Believe its tomorrow, so we'd know for sure then. Im not sure anyone can know for sure until then, since a spec list won't clarify new sensor or not
 
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#57
adroid28 said:
K-amps said:
adroid28 said:
Hi all :)

Complete beginner here. Well even less than beginner since I haven't even got a camera yet!
I have the same question as tHarten. Will the Digic-V increase ISO performance (less noise at high ISO's) or is it completely irrelevant?

Thanks :)

Dionysis
Click to expand...

Assuming it has the same sensor, yes the Digic 5 can produce less noise in jpegs due to better faster processing & Algorithms. However if sensor is same, then perhaps the RAW's will be the same too.
Click to expand...

Thank you for your answer :)

So that is quite useless since in any case to get the best quality/flexibility I will shoot in RAW. I can then use Denoise software that will be the same or better than the internal processing..

So if there is no new sensor in terms of quality I am going to get the same as the t2i... :o
But the most important thing is the image quality!! Surely that should improve in an upgrade..
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I wanted an APS-C for birding myself but was waiting for a T4i announcement and people to dump their T2i's once the sensor was not a whole lot different... so yes I agree with you. The only thing the T4i does for me is depreciate the T2i .


However if it is a new / improved sensor, I'd need to rethink this...
 
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