Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications

[darrenra]

Typical Canon. I guessing this is the same 18mp sensor as the 7D, t2i, t3i, and 60D which they have not updated for 3 years. Just a new body and processor with new functions, which will equal no RAW improvement in sensor performance. But we get a new touch screen. Woopty doo.

 

[hmmm]

Some body uploaded 2 video's about the touchscreen:
It looks prety real to me but dont blame me if its fake!

Good stuff - thanks for posting. It does look like a better touchscreen implementation than I would've expected.

 

[qska]

Drive System

Continuous shooting JPEG Large / Fine: Approx 22 (30) each
RAW: approximately six (6) every
RAW + JPEG Large / Fine: Approx 3 (3) every

That's baaaaaaaaad. My 400D can shoot a series of 9 RAW+JPEG images to fill the buffer. This has gradually become worse in every edition of a Rebel. But 3? Come on....

Unless my daughter suddenty stops running around I'll have to get a 60D just for the burst buffer.

 

[Marsu42]

I do agree it bodes well for the 70D getting some useful upgrades, seeing as the T4i is currently on par with the 60D on everything but build quality.

Don't forget the better ergonomics of the 60d - buttons, back dial, top lcd. I got the 60d because of these, and I wouldn't want any other body without them, no matter what the specs are, and I'm not just saying this because I happen to have a 60d. Many people who get excited about the 650d are 7d/5d amateurs that wouldn't touch a Rebel with a 10 feet pole.

Can Magic Lantern work on the Digic V+ ?

Yes they made some part of it work in the 5diii, but be prepared for wait for a usable version.

It seems indeed promising, but don't be so quick to announce ml on the digic5 - just now they can only print "Hello, World", no one can say if all features will work on the new processor. And I estimate it'll take about a year to get a stable port - ml is basically developed by a single person (Alex).

 

[Halocastle]

I do agree it bodes well for the 70D getting some useful upgrades, seeing as the T4i is currently on par with the 60D on everything but build quality.

Don't forget the better ergonomics of the 60d - buttons, back dial, top lcd. I got the 60d because of these, and I wouldn't want any other body without them, no matter what the specs are, and I'm not just saying this because I happen to have a 60d. Many people who get excited about the 650d are 7d/5d amateurs that wouldn't touch a Rebel with a 10 feet pole.

Can Magic Lantern work on the Digic V+ ?

Yes they made some part of it work in the 5diii, but be prepared for wait for a usable version.

It seems indeed promising, but don't be so quick to announce ml on the digic5 - just now they can only print "Hello, World", no one can say if all features will work on the new processor. And I estimate it'll take about a year to get a stable port - ml is basically developed by a single person (Alex).

Less time than that I would imagine. Having a Digic 5+ processor in a "cheaper" body makes "bricking" more tolerable. Few wish to subject a $3,500 camera to testing.

Oh, and the "oil painting effect," let us not forget that!

 

[nentraC]

I do agree it bodes well for the 70D getting some useful upgrades, seeing as the T4i is currently on par with the 60D on everything but build quality.

Don't forget the better ergonomics of the 60d - buttons, back dial, top lcd. I got the 60d because of these, and I wouldn't want any other body without them, no matter what the specs are, and I'm not just saying this because I happen to have a 60d. Many people who get excited about the 650d are 7d/5d amateurs that wouldn't touch a Rebel with a 10 feet pole.

Can Magic Lantern work on the Digic V+ ?

Yes they made some part of it work in the 5diii, but be prepared for wait for a usable version.

It seems indeed promising, but don't be so quick to announce ml on the digic5 - just now they can only print "Hello, World", no one can say if all features will work on the new processor. And I estimate it'll take about a year to get a stable port - ml is basically developed by a single person (Alex).

Less time than that I would imagine. Having a Digic 5+ processor in a "cheaper" body makes "bricking" more tolerable. Few wish to subject a $3,500 camera to testing.

Oh, and the "oil painting effect," let us not forget that!

Did i miss something or is the 650 processor Digic 5 not 5+ ?! So mutch talk about ml but i could be wrong the 7d has Digic 5 and no ml. I realy could be wrong cous i think i read thos things on the nets.

edit: oh i googlet it the 7d has 2xdigic 4

 

[DB]

I do agree it bodes well for the 70D getting some useful upgrades, seeing as the T4i is currently on par with the 60D on everything but build quality.

70D will get the 7D's AF and the same 18 MP sensor. 7DII will keep the same AF and get a new sensor.

"APS-H with 10FPS and Great ISO performance for sub 2000$..." what are you high on and where can I get some?!?

I think 10 fps is now a given for a 7D2 with dual Digic5+ chips, but I fear that the old sensor may remain, after all, how could they introduce a new higher MP APS-H sensor than the current 1D4 that still sells for a grand more than the new 5D3. I fear that we'll see the same 18MP sensor & same 19-point AF, but with slightly better noise performance, dual memory cards, some video tweaks etc.

You posted a graphic before of the AF overlay on crop vs FF, do you have the same for what current 7D AF would look like on an APS-H sensor through the viewfinder? Would 19 AF points on APS-H be too far from the edges or could they change AF point layout without incurring significant additional production cost?

 

[skrettis]

NO GPS option enabled - IS NO new REBEL for me! Bloody

 

[c3hammer]

Specs show a USB GPS link if I'm not mistaken

edit: here it is
- •PC communication and direct printing (Hi-Speed ​​USB), GPS Receiver GP-E2 connection

 

[zim]

Hi-Speed USB, that will be 2 then :

 

[D_Rochat]

Flippy swively touch screen, but no direct facebook uploading or Instagram! WTF Canon!?!

 

[Marine03]

It is 8:46AM in Japan right now... do they get the announcements first or are we waiting for New York tomorrow?

 

[brickhouse]

• Metering modes 63-zone TTL full aperture metering
  
  Evaluative metering (linkable to any AF point)
  
  Partial metering (approx. 9% of viewfinder at center)

Isn't the evaluative metering linkable to any AF point a significant upgrade?

It is my understanding that feature is currently only on the 1D series

 

[simonxu11]

• Metering modes 63-zone TTL full aperture metering
  
  Evaluative metering (linkable to any AF point)
  
  Partial metering (approx. 9% of viewfinder at center)

Isn't the evaluative metering linkable to any AF point a significant upgrade?

It is my understanding that feature is currently only on the 1D series

Evaluative metering linkable to any AF point is on all Canon's DSLRs
Spot metering linkable to certain AF points is only on 1D series

 

[drjlo]

It is 8:46AM in Japan right now... do they get the announcements first or are we waiting for New York tomorrow?

T4i is now on pre-order at B&H with full specs. $849.
Unless somebody says otherwise, looks like the tired old 18 MP sensor with "hybrid AF" thrown in

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/870175-REG/Canon_EOS_Rebel_T4i_Digital.html

 

[akiskev]

It's DIGIC 5+

No no, it's Digic5.

 

[ssrdd]

Canon fu---ing lost around 18MP, saying this is a brand new technology. sick of u.

didn't they know about 3200???

 

[Marine03]

T4i is now on pre-order at B&H with full specs. $849.
Unless somebody says otherwise, looks like the tired old 18 MP sensor with "hybrid AF" thrown in

Yea same old Sensor.......I probably wasn't going to upgrade to this body anyway but had hoped a new sensor here would mean a new sensor for the 70D for sure... now just have to keep my fingers crossed. However the Digic 5 really allows for much greater ISO in JPEG that's for sure.

I'm starting to hope that for only $1100 I'll be able to get a 70D Body.

 

[nentraC]

T4i is now on pre-order at B&H with full specs. $849.
Unless somebody says otherwise, looks like the tired old 18 MP sensor with "hybrid AF" thrown in

Yea same old Sensor.......I probably wasn't going to upgrade to this body anyway but had hoped a new sensor here would mean a new sensor for the 70D for sure... now just have to keep my fingers crossed. However the Digic 5 really allows for much greater ISO in JPEG that's for sure.

I'm starting to hope that for only $1100 I'll be able to get a 70D Body.

dpreview says its a updated sensor. So i dont know any moor.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-650d-rebel-t4i/3

 

[moreorless]

Canon fu---ing lost around 18MP, saying this is a brand new technology. sick of u.

didn't they know about 3200???

For most entry level users I think they've taken the correct route, FF DSLR's like the D800/5D mk3 are one thing as most buyers there are going to be willing to invest in quality lenses but 90% of entry level users stick with either kit zooms or superzooms. Those lenses(and indeed many more expensive ones) simpley arent going to make the most of 24 MP while the extras on the 650D(better AF, higher FPS, better viewfinder) are going to be a bonus to pretty much any users even if they don't shoot video or care about the touch screen.

Personally the impression I'm getting from the 650D is that its partly a response to the mirrorless market looking to emphasize the advantages of DSLR's with the better AF and VF.

If Canon introduce there own mirrorless as rumoured I'd guess its going to be positioned below the 650D as the entry level to large sensor cameras.