Canon Hong Kong confirms September 14, 2021 announcement date for the Canon EOS R3

[tron]

Hmm squarely between: Let's do some "creative" wishful thinking:

45**2 = 20**2 + x**2.

It we solve for x its SQRT (45**2-20**2) = SQRT (2025-400) = SQRT (1625) ~ 40.3

Hey Canon where is our 40.3MPixel R3?

 

[neuroanatomist]

Hmm squarely between: Let's do some "creative" wishful thinking:

45**2 = 20**2 + x**2.

It we solve for x its SQRT (45**2-20**2) = SQRT (2025-400) = SQRT (1625) ~ 40.3

Hey Canon where is our 40.3MPixel R3?

Perhaps you failed to notice that there were more instructions on the back of the headpiece: "Take back 1D Mark IV worth of megapixels to honor the Goddess Eos, whose Camera this is."

 

[unfocused]

...the R1 will be 20-24MP...

When did Canon announce the sensor resolution of the R1? I missed that.

 

[twoheadedboy]

If this is free from any overheating issues and comes in at $4500, I’ll preorder. At $6600 I think this will be a hard pass. I’m actually not loving a larger body. Size/weight was one of the reasons I sold my 1DXMK2. Cameras that large are only carried deliberately… never casually; Many will try, but in the end they will start to leave it behind.

This camera needs to be priced attractively to be a winner.

To be fair, it's not the same size as a 1DX or an R5 with a grip, it's smaller than that, based on the Fro Knows video from the other day.

 

[Emyr Evans]

Apple event also 14th September.

Clearly both companies have teamed up.

Get ready for a iR3 Pro Max next week.

 

[neuroanatomist]

If this is free from any overheating issues and comes in at $4500, I’ll preorder. At $6600 I think this will be a hard pass. I’m actually not loving a larger body. Size/weight was one of the reasons I sold my 1DXMK2. Cameras that large are only carried deliberately… never casually; Many will try, but in the end they will start to leave it behind.

IMO, there's little difference between a non-gripped FF MILC and a 1-series – both are big and heavy once you include a standard zoom (granted, a Sigma fp with a pancake prime is pretty small). The next level down is an APS-C MILC like the EOS M system, and those are similar in size to a G-series. Then there are smartphones. Everyone will draw that line somewhere, but for many people anything bigger than the smartphone they're already carrying is something brought along deliberately.

 

[slclick]

I look forward to Bryan C.'s review of the 100-400. If it passes his muster test, I'll snatch one up. The R6 is more than enough camera for me, so not looking at the R3.

 

[blackcoffee17]

Canon already admitted that the R5 and R6 will overheat. I think it would be a mistake for them not to clearly state that the overheating concerns are addressed in this camera, if indeed they are.
For many, overheating is the elephant in the room.

Sure, they admitted it in the manual or maybe some interviews. But not in announcements or marketing materials.

 

[DBounce]

To be fair, it's not the same size as a 1DX or an R5 with a grip, it's smaller than that, based on the Fro Knows video from the other day.

Well being equally fair, the Sony A1 is smaller, matches the R3s’ 30fps, packs a 50MP sensor and shoots 8K… all without overheating! If Canon cannot tackle overheating in a camera with half the resolution and double the size, then the battle is already lost.

 

[blackcoffee17]

Well being equally fair, the Sony A1 is smaller, matches the R3s’ 30fps, packs a 50MP sensor and shoots 8K… all without overheating! If Canon cannot tackle overheating in a camera with half the resolution and double the size, then the battle is already lost.

Canon simply did a bad job with the R5's cooling. They probably rushed it to the market and underestimated the negative press. Of course, still sold a truckload of R5 bodies, so not a big problem.

 

[Chig]

Judging from these two screen grabs I took from Jared's R3 "unbox" and his R6 1yr in review videos it appears the R3 will be a little smaller (at least shorter) than a gripped R5/6. So that is good news to me. I'm thinking this thing must be 1DIV sized.

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Jarod said it felt much lighter too!

 

[DBounce]

Maybe the R3 is not being announced? Given that Canon have made it clear that the R3 will not be the flagship, it’s interesting that they have named the event

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BORN TO RULE​

If it’s ruling, it must be a flagship. R1 anyone?

 

[Cyborx]

Don’t worry, IT WILL BE EXPENSIVE!
Canon knows best when it comes to overpricing gear. The R3 will be 6000 euro’s.

 

[Cyborx]

I am still crying over the 24 megapixels…

 

[Chig]

90% of ILCs being sold are APS-C.

Yes , which is why Canon shouldn't ignore the aps-c market with the RF mount . They have their excellent M mount cameras and EF aps-c but I think it would make sense to make a line of aps-c RF cameras and the simplest and cheapest way would be to adapt existing FF bodies such as:

• R6 body and internals fitted with new aps-c sensor (preferably BSI stacked) to make an R7 and price it about 10-20% below the R6
• RP body with same sensor for a compact model

This also means economies of scale for manufacturing with much longer production runs than the FF bodies on their own.
Canon needs to compete with the aps-c cameras from Sony,Nikon and Fujifilm
Fujifilm are rumoured to have a new high performance BSI stacked aps-c sensor coming soon too.

 

[Chig]

I am still crying over the 24 megapixels…

You're crying over an unconfirmed rumour ?

 

[Cyborx]

You're crying over an unconfirmed rumour ?

Yes! And I am unstoppable

 

[rick2]

My guess was (and remains) $6200-6400. I won't complain if it's cheaper, of course. But given that they just bumped RF lens prices, given the chip shortages (whether or not chips were sourced before that, it's a reason to charge more), and given the target market, a price close to that of the 1D X III will not surprise me (nor will it deter me).

But what if it doesn't have animal eye AF?

 

[tiggy@mac.com]

To those who were talking about switching systems being too much of a hassle and expense... that is true for people who don't shoot Canon EF mount. If you do shoot Canon EF, then there isn't another system that won't let you use all your lenses. I shot Sony and Panasonic for a combined 1.5-2 years using my Canon lenses. Moved to the S1R when Canon wouldn't give me the resolution I wanted. Moved to Sony when their bonkers tracking system came out and they fixed some things. Now the R5 has Canon running circles around them again, so I'm back. Had I started with any other lens mount, none of that would have been able to happen. The adapters got to be quite good (thanks to Sigma).

For RF mount shooters, the resale value of the RF glass is about 90 percent of new, probably due to the fact that supply of new lenses is slow.

I grant that not a lot of people take the plunge, but there is relatively little cost for taking your Canon EF lenses to another company's body.

All that said, I don't think the R3 will cause much switching. Not everyone's cup of tea, but there is quite little that the other brands are offering that Canon lacks.

 

[twoheadedboy]

Well being equally fair, the Sony A1 is smaller, matches the R3s’ 30fps, packs a 50MP sensor and shoots 8K… all without overheating! If Canon cannot tackle overheating in a camera with half the resolution and double the size, then the battle is already lost.

I wasn't addressing the overheating concern or the price, which we don't know. We do know it is a smaller form factor, and we'll see on the rest.

However, Sony does not shoot 8K w/o overheating. As compared to a stock R5, it goes longer before needing a break, and cools faster, but it does overheat. The R5 at this point is more limited by the 30 min hard stop; you can avoid both that and overheating with a Ninja V+ attached to the R5, but it does not support the Sony A1.