Canon officially announces the Canon EOS R5 Mark II

[DhlcadR6]

Upscaling is not going to get you even near the results of a GFX100II. Just keeping it real.

But enough to go against a7r5 a1

 

[SpecInspector]

Man, I've been on this site for over a decade. The logins change, but the relentless d*ck measuring sure doesn't.

R5 II has a stacked, BSI sensor. For certain shooters, that alone is going to be massive. If you're still holding on to a 5D body, and move up, that additional lattitude on top of the standard R system stuff is going to be bananas.

A lot of the people 10-20 years younger than us buying their full frames want to do video as much as photo in pretty much every sector. A combination of less money in each niche and a flood of people with great tools. So I don't blame Canon for stacking the video side. I'll still use dedicated video cameras for bigger projects, but that sensor plus 4K oversampled, or even the odd 8K to push into makes it phenomenal.

I don't care about eye AF, but I appreciate others might. Cool that it's in there.

I rarely if ever need 180 mp images. But I appreciate having 45 to crop with, and an option to uprez without Topaz in a way any client won't be able to tell. Not to mention then cropping into that. I'd like to test that. Sure, if you want to go shoot medium format there's cameras for that. But for everyday use cases and the vanishingly rare need to deliver at over 50 MP, there's now an option for it that is practical, and doesn't mean shooting on a tool that destroys your storage.

And the record limit is...whatever. I've never understood people crying about that. If you need to record over half an hour, why are you using a DSLR / mirrorless and not a camcorder or cinema camera? even doc shooters rarely keep rolling without a break for a half hour.

So yeah - plenty to tempt me. I love my R5 already, and while I'm not sure I'd upgrade this cycle, this announcement looks great. I think this site's dripfeeding of hopes, dreams, lies and hearsay builds a picture in people's head that the next camera is going to be their perfect camera. If you're in the Canon ecosystem, there's now two absolutely rock solid flagships for different uses. I think that's cool personally.

I'm looking forward to shooting 8k handheld with a loose focal length lens and stabilizing in post down to 4k. If R5ii can at least match R3's 3200iso 6k video performance it will make for some amazing club/band existing light video.

 

[crbb]

One detail I haven't seen people mention is that the R5 Mk II supports 6GHz Wi-Fi connections with 2x2 MIMO. In practice that will mean connection speeds of >1 Gbps (I get 1.7 Gbps on my WiFi). This is a great improvement over the R5 Mk I.

 

[Austintatious]

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Overheats in 4K in 40mins!?!?
For video why not just stick with the r5c then?

The codecs are a big plus but it seems the vent really only helps with the attachment.. :/

How long to wait till the R5c mark 2?

 

[David - Sydney]

Ok. I wonder how long it will take Canon to implement LUTs in the R5 mk1 via an update.

I think that it would be unlikely for future feature upgrades in the R5.
Any new firmware will be limited to "correcting phenomenon" but I am happy to be proved wrong

 

[Richard CN]

Upscaling is not going to get you even near the results of a GFX100II. Just keeping it real.

it may get you close enough that no one cares.

depends though if you need the RAW latitude or are fine with JPEG though.

 

[David - Sydney]

But 30 mins of 8K30 without grip is good enough for my kind of work..

what size memory cards are you using for 30minutes of 8k30?

 

[Richard CN]

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Overheats in 4K in 40mins!?!?
For video why not just stick with the r5c then?

The codecs are a big plus but it seems the vent really only helps with the attachment.. :/

How long to wait till the R5c mark 2?

just exactly how long are you recording 4K60p for and why?

the R5C would have active cooling - so why are you complaining about using active cooling on the R5 Mark II?

It's unlimited with the cooling grip - use it.

 

[David - Sydney]

I notice from the specs for the standard battery grip (BG-R20) that it works with the R5, R6, R6 Mark II and the new R5 Mark II. Which pretty much means that the body is almost exactly the same as the Mark I. It does look that way.

Great that the BG-R20 can be reused... I wonder how it is different from the discontinued one for the R5.
R5ii footprint may be the same but it won't fit in my housing - especially with the eye-AF controller which is not much use underwater

 

[vladfoto]

The lack of built-in GPS on the R3 Mark II is not a deal-breaker, but it is inconvenient.. Research-grade nature photographs require accurate time and location data in the metadata. Nonetheless, I have ordered the R5 Mark II.

Anybody wanna buy a 6D Mark II (with GPS) and a few EF lenses—all in excellent condition—at very good prices?

R3 Mark II?

 

[snapshot]

it may get you close enough that no one cares.

depends though if you need the RAW latitude or are fine with JPEG though.

do you think it will achieve better results than the popular post processing packages? Maybe it can if it uses the dual-pixel info???

 

[birdman916]

Amen.

Man, I've been on this site for over a decade. The logins change, but the relentless d*ck measuring sure doesn't.

R5 II has a stacked, BSI sensor. For certain shooters, that alone is going to be massive. If you're still holding on to a 5D body, and move up, that additional lattitude on top of the standard R system stuff is going to be bananas.

A lot of the people 10-20 years younger than us buying their full frames want to do video as much as photo in pretty much every sector. A combination of less money in each niche and a flood of people with great tools. So I don't blame Canon for stacking the video side. I'll still use dedicated video cameras for bigger projects, but that sensor plus 4K oversampled, or even the odd 8K to push into makes it phenomenal.

I don't care about eye AF, but I appreciate others might. Cool that it's in there.

I rarely if ever need 180 mp images. But I appreciate having 45 to crop with, and an option to uprez without Topaz in a way any client won't be able to tell. Not to mention then cropping into that. I'd like to test that. Sure, if you want to go shoot medium format there's cameras for that. But for everyday use cases and the vanishingly rare need to deliver at over 50 MP, there's now an option for it that is practical, and doesn't mean shooting on a tool that destroys your storage.

And the record limit is...whatever. I've never understood people crying about that. If you need to record over half an hour, why are you using a DSLR / mirrorless and not a camcorder or cinema camera? even doc shooters rarely keep rolling without a break for a half hour.

So yeah - plenty to tempt me. I love my R5 already, and while I'm not sure I'd upgrade this cycle, this announcement looks great. I think this site's dripfeeding of hopes, dreams, lies and hearsay builds a picture in people's head that the next camera is going to be their perfect camera. If you're in the Canon ecosystem, there's now two absolutely rock solid flagships for different uses. I think that's cool personally.

Amen. Close thread

 

[Richard CN]

do you think it will achieve better results than the popular post processing packages? Maybe it can if it uses the dual-pixel info???

I have no idea. But it's curious it's in camera and not in DPP, etc.

 

[koenkooi]

How many 1/8" stereo mic jacks? R5ii specs say records four tracks so there should be two stereo jacks. Canon didn't cripple it with just one jack, did they? That TASCAM CA-XLR2d-C abomination gets terrible reviews.

Judging from the shots of the menu in the videos: internal mics + single stereo jack. The new hot shoe can also provide more channels when using the tascam or dm-e1d.

 

[sanj]

Why the upscaling feature? Why would someone need it? For example.. Thx.

 

[Bernd Stuht]

Is there an 30 Minute Videolimit for Europe-Version of the R5II ( i saw 30min in an Display-Shot of the R5II ) ?
( read the DP-Review-Site - only Limit in case of Heat in 8K ? )

Support the Hotshoe the older Flash-Units ( ST-E3-RT for Example ) - i saw an Info -> yes but not sealed ?
( Using of my Flash-Systems )

External Power via USB-C only with extra Adapter ?

Greetings !

Bernd

 

[amorse]

it may get you close enough that no one cares.

depends though if you need the RAW latitude or are fine with JPEG though.

Honestly, I was one of the very few who wanted more than 45 mp and I really don't see myself using the up scaling because it's JPG, even though I made a pre-order. I need the image to be in RAW a lot more than I need the additional resolution, and to be honest, if we're using upscaling to bridge the resolution gap, then I don't really see this as a meaningful step beyond what's currently available as I can upscale a RAW image of my 8-year old 5Div and still have a DNG with full latitude to work with. The only difference is it gets upscaled by a third party company on my computer rather than being upscaled directly on the camera. From my perspective/use case, upscaling to a JPG is not a substitute for more resolution natively, and there are better options to upscale already on the market by virtue of outputting a DNG instead of a JPEG.

With all that said, I ended up pre-ordering as I don't see the alternatives as being sufficiently better or attractive to justify changing platforms over (everything on the market has its limitations), and my 5DIV is feeling pretty long in the tooth. I'll say this though - if Canon releases a higher-resolution body in the near future, I'd be very tempted to jump to that instead.

 

[drama]

20 year videographer here. I’ve used countless DSLRs and mirrorless over the years as B cams and I need them to run well over 30 minutes. The need is very real. Sony cameras also overheat and Canon gets a bad rap and double standard which Sony fanboys ignore…but it’s a huge deal this camera still needs extra peripherals just to work.

I currently run a C300 mk3 plus a C70 and occasionally a R5C for doc and corporate work.

The R5 Mark II is an underwhelming video camera when compared to others in the space even Canon’s own C line. I’d rather buy another C300m3 for 6900 bucks over this which would be $5k by the time I get the cooling grip plus new amperage batteries just to make all the new video features actually work.

....and that's valid. Your workflow is pure video, but fair point taken on running B cams longer - there are cases for that, but as you know there's also ways around running them forever that usually involves another body on set operating. But as you say - there are better tools for pure video work available in the ecosystem. For hybrid shooters (of which I've been one for 10+ years) learning their craft or in small teams of 1-3, this remains a gift of a camera. I also think CLOG2 and the BSI sensor is going to make it find a life as a new crash cam on set, but the competition is stiff from BlackMagic at the moment. We'll see.

 

[RikC]

Oh a feature I really would have liked in my R6 mk ii is the four channel audio. That and the dedicated cooling grip off-course more or less indicate that there will be no R5C mk II.

 

[Del Paso]

Dear skeptical forum members (trolls not incuded)

If you are still convinced that the R5 II is only a slightly improved R5, I may suggest that you watch in full length Nina Bailey's R5 II explanatory video.
If then you don't change your mind...