The 24-105/2.8 Z launched in Nov 2023. The 70-200/2.8 Z launched almost a year later, in Oct 2024. I think your logic needs some work, there.
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Canon Officially Announces the RF 20mm f/1.4L VCM and RF-S 14-30mm f/4-6.3 IS STM PZ
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I’d say it makes sense from a business perspective. Canon made one set of lenses that covers both photo and video markets, and they can drive their costs down in the process by only paying for one production line and one set of tooling.
Sure, I’d like a RF 35mm f/1.2 from Canon, but I can see why Canon decided against the idea.
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My Dealer told me in Nov 2023 that there’ll be a Z 70-200 with the same body as the 24-105/2.8.
When Canon launched it a year later it wasn’t a surprise for me TBH. As far as I can see he was bang on.
Feel free to correct me
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I don’t know if the 24-105Z can be made smaller or lighter given that there are no equivalents from other brands, but looking at the specs of the Sony 70-200GM II compared to the 70-200Z, they are very close (within millimeters of each other, with the Canon being 50g heavier being the only significant difference).
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The feedback regarding the RF 70-200L is probably part of what prompted Canon to make the Z series of lenses — the realization that some people really wanted an internal zoom lens, others really wanted the TC support, the untapped market of videographers, and that Canon can make one lens that satisfies all 3 groups at once.
We’ll probably see more of the hybrid lenses in the future.
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Nice that your dealer knows everything happening in Canon HQ and is free to tell people about that. Regardless, the 24-105/2.8 came first, so suggesting that it used the barrel design of a lens coming out almost a year later is pretty silly. The reality is that Canon almost certainly developed them together and intended them to be the same size, as they did with the VCM lenses. The point is that for cinema rigs having a set of same-sized lenses is important. That's why the CN-E prime lenses are all exactly the same diameter, and 4 of the 6 are the same length, with shortest and longest focal lengths being pretty similar.My Dealer told me in Nov 2023 that there’ll be a Z 70-200 with the same body as the 24-105/2.8.
When Canon launched it a year later it wasn’t a surprise for me TBH. As far as I can see he was bang on.
Feel free to correct me
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I'm wondering if canon will ever make again small, light, affordable prime lenses. The earlier ef 20mm f/2.8 USM or 85mm f/1.8 USM were all of this. I don't need unaffordable lenses, but lightweight and not too expensive primes.
Or should I just buy an ef/rf adaptor ?
The 35mm rf 1.8 and 50mm rf 1.8 were on this track. But no wider lenses...
Or should I just buy an ef/rf adaptor ?
The 35mm rf 1.8 and 50mm rf 1.8 were on this track. But no wider lenses...
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He‘s really well connected in the Canon Europe HQ, I am among a very few people who are very good customers.
Probably that’s the reason why I got these informations.
You’re right, both lenses were in fact developed together, but the 24-105/2.8 was finished earlier.
That’s probably the reason for the same size and barrel design.
They’re obviously Hybrid lenses, as you say, for the rigs it’s essential to have lenses with the same size. Like the VCM and CN-E.
But because I don’t care about rigs and cinema, I would’ve preferred smaller lenses without internal zoom.
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Me, too. I’d have preferred an extending 24-105/2.8 (and one with a completely removable collar), and I’m not planning to replace my RF 70-200/2.8 with the Z version.
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Are you unaware of the existence of the RF 28/2.8, RF 24/1.8 and RF 16/2.8?
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You are spot on right on this one. I didn't correctly divide this matter because as a consumer, who can´t write purchases off their taxes, I really don´t care what portion goes to Canon and what goes to the state. I simply compare the final price although it is flawed.
In this case, 1.899 € should have been enough though... I suspect it is 1.999 € so the cash back reward in a year or two will seem greater...
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Not necessarily a large number of people, but I've been looking for a 20mm f/1.4 because I use the Sigma 28mm f/1.4 on an adapter. I sold my 24mm to help fund that, and have been waiting around for a good 20mm bright option. It depends often on what lenses people happen to have. They may be in the market for a particular focal length, regardless of how complete that series of lenses is.
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The 24/1.4 dropped by $200 (CPW) pretty fast (about a month after it started shipping). That price is largely driven by the USD/CAD exchange rate.
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