Canon Officially Announces the RF 20mm f/1.4L VCM and RF-S 14-30mm f/4-6.3 IS STM PZ

Does Anybody else thinks, the VCM idea was a bit stupid? Without the VCM body some lenses would be far shorter.

I really despise the size of the 24-105/2.8. It’s to long, because it uses the 70-200 Z body.
They are sets.
They are meant to be around the same size so they can be easily swapped without rebalancing everything.
It may be something that you never need but there are some of us who do.
 
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I'm wondering if canon will ever make again small, light, affordable prime lenses. The earlier ef 20mm f/2.8 USM or 85mm f/1.8 USM were all of this. I don't need unaffordable lenses, but lightweight and not too expensive primes.
Or should I just buy an ef/rf adaptor ?
The 35mm rf 1.8 and 50mm rf 1.8 were on this track. But no wider lenses...
There are the RF 24 f/1.8 and RF 85 f/2
 
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Me, too. I’d have preferred an extending 24-105/2.8 (and one with a completely removable collar), and I’m not planning to replace my RF 70-200/2.8 with the Z version.

From a portability perspective, I would prefer an extending 24-105 F/2.8. However, I use it primarily for youth sports, and the short zoom throw, and no-dust-worry internal design are very handy. I've grown to appreciate this design so much that I no longer like using my non-z 70-200 F/2.8 for these same sports.

But I never seem to take that large 24-105 on a day trip! First world problems for sure! :)
 
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2,050€ for a prime f1.4 lens?! What the actual F-stop, Canon!?!?!?

The 50mm f1.4 VCM currently costs 1,250.00€.
The 35mm f1.4 VCM can be found for 1.300.00€
The 24mm f1.4 VCM around 1.600.00€

Why does this lens cost 450€ more!? Complete nonsense.
 
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From a portability perspective, I would prefer an extending 24-105 F/2.8. However, I use it primarily for youth sports, and the short zoom throw, and no-dust-worry internal design are very handy. I've grown to appreciate this design so much that I no longer like using my non-z 70-200 F/2.8 for these same sports.
I'm not using my RF 70-200/2.8 (non-Z) all that much any more, mainly because I use the 100-300/2.8 instead.
 
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I'm wondering if canon will ever make again small, light, affordable prime lenses. The earlier ef 20mm f/2.8 USM or 85mm f/1.8 USM were all of this. I don't need unaffordable lenses, but lightweight and not too expensive primes.
Or should I just buy an ef/rf adaptor ?
The 35mm rf 1.8 and 50mm rf 1.8 were on this track. But no wider lenses...
RF 28 Pancake? Stop whining, try it!

Oh yes, it's affordable, compact and it delivers (Better than 2.0 28-70L)
 
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That still needs to come.
Those lenses can be more photo-centric with fewer concerns about focus breathing, size, or weight.
I certainly would welcome it, but I am not sure it "needs to".

The question is would they sell enough of the photocentric f/1.2s to justify the additional development and tooling costs. I suspect the folks (me included) who wanted a native and fast 35mm L option for RF have mostly bought the 35L VCM.

If Canon launches a 35 f/1.2L with the same price and weight as the Nikon Z 35mm f/1.2 S (1 kg, 82mm threads, $2800), I am not sure how many people will buy it.
 
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The 50mm f1.4 VCM currently costs 1,250.00€.
The 35mm f1.4 VCM can be found for 1.300.00€
The 24mm f1.4 VCM around 1.600.00€
At the same aperture, the further the lens is from ~50mm, the harder it is to design and manufacture. It is also likely that they anticipate selling fewer of the 20mm f/1.4s compared to the other lenses, so they need to price it higher to compensate.
 
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2,050€ for a prime f1.4 lens?! What the actual F-stop, Canon!?!?!?

The 50mm f1.4 VCM currently costs 1,250.00€.
The 35mm f1.4 VCM can be found for 1.300.00€
The 24mm f1.4 VCM around 1.600.00€

Why does this lens cost 450€ more!? Complete nonsense.
Where are you seeing those prices? Here in .nl the 50VCM is above €1600, both white and gray market versions.
 
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I'm not using my RF 70-200/2.8 (non-Z) all that much any more, mainly because I use the 100-300/2.8 instead.
Me too. I use the 24-105 2.8 and 100-300 2.8 as the ultimate sports combo. I can't come to terms with selling the 70-200 non-z though. I know as soon as I do, I'll wish I had it for some small event where I have no desire to lug around that 100-300.
 
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I'm wondering if canon will ever make again small, light, affordable prime lenses.... I don't need unaffordable lenses, but lightweight and not too expensive primes.
Sigma EF20mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art 945gm 91mm x 130mm + R mount adapter weight/length
Canon RF20mm f1.4 500gm 76mm x 99mm
=> Seems like weight and size is significantly better than the Sigma equivalent and you get the BR goo treatment!

Sony has their
20mm f1.8 375gm 74mm x 85mm
14mm f1.8 460gm 83mm x 100mm
=> Sony have been able to hit the trinity of small/light/reasonably priced GM lenses even with their smaller mount.
The Sigma 14/1.4 is a behemoth though!

Or should I just buy an ef/rf adaptor ?
The 35mm rf 1.8 and 50mm rf 1.8 were on this track. But no wider lenses...
There is no downside for using an adapted lens besides length and weight.
 
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Only one Australian retailer has a price and is AUD3000 which is basically the USD pricing + 10%GST. At least Canon Australia isn't gouging buyers here vs Europer/UK
I've now seen a pre-order price of AUD2900 making it slightly cheaper than the US pricing.
I am not sure why Canon AU vs Europe/UK are so out of sync but I am not complaining and let's not forget the 5 year warranty :)

For those who would say that the extended warranty is not needed.... my RF70-200/2.8 had to go for "repair" due to fungus! It was just within the 5 years and they cleaned it for free. I haven't used it as much as I thought ie my RF100-500 gets more use. So it has been used for indoor use more than anything else so the fungus is a weird thing. I don't have a humidity controlled cabinet but but have never had any issues with my EF L lenses in the past. If I was ever to have a problem, it would have been with my EF16-35/4 which has been a workhorse from waterfalls to seascapes and underwater and never had an issue.
 
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Thanks! If I had to guess, I think an 85/1.4. It's about as long as they can go at f/1.4 and keep the size. I doubt they can do that with a 14/1.4, the diameter would be bigger (or the IQ would suffer too much for it to be an L).
85mm f/1.4 with a 67mm filter thread and L-series image quality would be a blessing. If I remember correctly, nobody has achieved this yet. So chances are it’s a 28mm f/1.4 or something like a 40mm f/1.4. A 70-75mm also sounds realistic. Or it could be an 85mm f/1.8 (the most realistic scenario—I saw a patent for it here on CR). But if it really is an 85mm f/1.4—hats off to Canon. That would be a real breakthrough in optical design.

And I agree that it’s unlikely to be a 14mm f/1.4—my intuition suggests that such a lens would require a huge front element for a retrofocus design. And making it 2.8 goes against a core concept of VCM lineup.
 
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