Canon RF 35mm f/1.2L USM Confirmed for 2024 [CR3]
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He still has a point. They're lacking in 1.4 lenses. You can defend Canon all you want but there's a lot of people that would like to purchase lighter and cheaper 1.4 primes vs. the $2000+ 1.2 lenses.Yes, it’s almost as if someone doesn’t really understand what lenses would best serve the current market and yield the greatest profit. I wonder who that is? The company that has led the ILC market for 20 years…or you.
Hmmmm, that’s a real head-scratcher…
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I don't understand why a pro can't justify spending a little more. I used to work at a bar and do my painting to keep a reasonable income. there's no shame in two jobs.It's about time to accept as an irrefutable, CR expert-confirmed fact, that the best lenses for Canon are the Tamrons or Sigmas. Better or, at least, as good as the best native RF lenses. Without 3rd. party lenses, Canon won't survive in a market asking for the best possible quality. The new RF lenses are too large, heavy, expensive and do not sell. Real pros want plasticky Tamrons or AF- unreliable Sigmas.
Period!!!!
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Right. Anyone who suggests reasons why Canon may not make a lens someone wants is a fanboy, and anyone who says Canon is wrong for not making the lens they want is a troll. What a simple little world you live in. Must be nice.
You should go play with your toys and let the grownups talk.
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No doubt there are some people. How many people? How many people would prefer f/1.2 over f/1.4? How do those numbers translate into profit? What makes you think you know the answers to those questions better than Canon? (That's a rhetorical question, you have no clue.)
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Unfortunately they have to wait, adapt ef lenses for autofocus, go manual, or switch to another company.
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I was hoping he uses dungeons and dragons dice.Roadkill entrails don't lie!
"You need to roll at least 18 to get a shot of the bride whispering in her mother in laws ear, but you get plus 10 for using a Sigma because I made the rules. You want to use the canon lens? That's minus 17 points!"
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While I would like to see an RF 35mm f/1.4L for my own interests, it makes much more sense for canon to address the budget and high end markets first. They have limited production capacity which supports releasing the higher margin, lower volume product, but they also need 1.8 to prevent many users from going with another system. Also, I have a hard time believing that droves of the photographers who already have an excellent EF 35mm f/1.4L ii are dying to trade in that lens plus several hundred dollars to get an RF f/1.4L of similar image quality whereas an f/1.2L might feel like a real upgrade. Canon should absolutely be pursuing statement lenses like this first before midrange to compete with Sony. I still think they’ll address the mid range later. In the meantime, the used EF market and Nikon have the mid tier plenty well covered. I’m thoroughly enjoying my inexpensive refurb EF 85mm f/1.4L on my R6ii and I look forward to seeing other people with more money post some killer shots with the 35 f/1.2L
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A bit harsh, and name calling is not very mature.
The responses aren't fanboyism. There's a difference between saying what you want vs. saying what you think people don't need, or that Canon needs to make this lens or that lens...
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Careful, your intelligent, rational explanation for Canon's business decisions and the logical consequences of them may get you labeled as a fanboy...or worse.
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there's two choices here
Choice A:
Step one, join a gym or even exercise at home (you can use a book bag like a hand weight).
step two save your money
step three buy the lens that is available you want
step four shoot great photos with that lens.
Choice B
fantasize about a lens that doesn't exist
post here
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Choice A:
Step one, join a gym or even exercise at home (you can use a book bag like a hand weight).
step two save your money
step three buy the lens that is available you want
step four shoot great photos with that lens.
Choice B
fantasize about a lens that doesn't exist
post here
Pro-Canon Whining
A substantial number of people want a new 50 f/1.4, but they can't agree on price levels / specs. Probably never going to happen. Everyone and their mother knows @roby17269 has unhealthy desires for a 35 f/1.2, but the rumor now is f/1.4 with is = unhappy Roby Some people have posted about 50...
www.canonrumors.com
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If Canon would make Canon RF 16-28mm F2, then Canon RF 35mm F1.2 will be the import part of:
Canon RF 85mm F1.2
Canon RF 35mm F1.2
Canon RF 16-28mm F2
Before Canon RF 16-28mm F2 is available, these are good enough:
Canon RF 85mm F1.2
Canon RF 15-35mm F2.8
Canon RF 85mm F1.2
Canon RF 35mm F1.2
Canon RF 16-28mm F2
Before Canon RF 16-28mm F2 is available, these are good enough:
Canon RF 85mm F1.2
Canon RF 15-35mm F2.8
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The funniest thing to me about all of this is, I've had the existing RF 35mm and don't even use it that much, and when I do as often as not it's in crop mode. I guess it's not a focal length I can get to grips with (but I almost never photograph people).
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Fascinating replies here.
The shorter flange depth is really what is allowing the f/1.2 here. Going to f/1.4 would result in a a slightly smaller lens, but I don't think it's the miracle of shaving half the weight or anything. And I think notably the 35mm f/1.8 is already a very good design and very small. I do think the 50mm f/1.8 and 85mm f/2 Macro share that concept. The wider 24 and 16 are exceptionally reliant on lens corrections, but obviously keep the lens size and cost down. This new 35mm isn't supposed to be in that category.
The key metric for me on the 35mm f/1.2L is highly corrected optics and high performance across the frame to follow the merits of the other L-Series primes. Which for a long, long time now has stopped at 50mm on the wide side of things. And whatever the follow up wides, likely 24 and 28 (which is interesting), and also likely something in the 14mm range long term are hopefully going to carry that pedigree.
There's such a range in Canon's customer base related to the types of lenses they need to make, but for many professionals that are looking to say larger format systems lately for some of their work, making premium optics is an extremely important aspect of keeping certain professionals within the ecosystem. And equally important to supporting various potential high resolution bodies short and long term.
I do think they'll make a range of f/1.4 primes long terms that will be somewhere in the middle, but it seems Canon is focused on fleshing out both sides of the market tiers with an occasional oddity somewhere in the middle. I'm overall fine with this strategy, but the lake of fleshing out the L-Primes in particular since the RF Mount's release has been glaring. Currently the 50, 85, and 135 are truly the best in their class across all manufacturers. And yes, that does come with a price.
The shorter flange depth is really what is allowing the f/1.2 here. Going to f/1.4 would result in a a slightly smaller lens, but I don't think it's the miracle of shaving half the weight or anything. And I think notably the 35mm f/1.8 is already a very good design and very small. I do think the 50mm f/1.8 and 85mm f/2 Macro share that concept. The wider 24 and 16 are exceptionally reliant on lens corrections, but obviously keep the lens size and cost down. This new 35mm isn't supposed to be in that category.
The key metric for me on the 35mm f/1.2L is highly corrected optics and high performance across the frame to follow the merits of the other L-Series primes. Which for a long, long time now has stopped at 50mm on the wide side of things. And whatever the follow up wides, likely 24 and 28 (which is interesting), and also likely something in the 14mm range long term are hopefully going to carry that pedigree.
There's such a range in Canon's customer base related to the types of lenses they need to make, but for many professionals that are looking to say larger format systems lately for some of their work, making premium optics is an extremely important aspect of keeping certain professionals within the ecosystem. And equally important to supporting various potential high resolution bodies short and long term.
I do think they'll make a range of f/1.4 primes long terms that will be somewhere in the middle, but it seems Canon is focused on fleshing out both sides of the market tiers with an occasional oddity somewhere in the middle. I'm overall fine with this strategy, but the lake of fleshing out the L-Primes in particular since the RF Mount's release has been glaring. Currently the 50, 85, and 135 are truly the best in their class across all manufacturers. And yes, that does come with a price.
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