!DX mk lll, where to go from there ?

[Speedfinder]

I have 2 Mk 3 1dxs and one 7Dmk 2. I only rarely use the 7d at all and I have it since I bought the 1Dx mk ll. I use it instead of a converter.(seperate debate) My plan was to upgrade the 7d to a R7 mk ll when it became available. I was not too gone on getting an R1 until I started seeing Jan Wggener and Adrian Fopp reviews. I do wildlife including birds.
So I dropped into my Canon pro dealership where I get most of my gear. So I asked about the trade in values …..
With out even glancing at the 1dx I had with me I was told no one wants them , they are to heavy and the R6 mk ll was a better camera ……( never met this guy before) etc and I would be lucky to get 1000 euros off a 7500 euro R1.
I am neither interested in taking that much of a hit nor bothered. I am happy with my !dxs and I am not selling images any more and I guess the Mk lll will still be worth 1000 euros in 2-3 years.
Meanwhile the 1dxs new price has not been reduced nor am I seeing many second hand.
So whats actually happening. ?
Ironically there was a 45 year old F1 with an AE head and motordrive on sale in the same shop for 740 euro……..
it must be a lighter camera. …

 

[koenkooi]

A quick look on mbp.com shows the 1dx3 listed for €2500-3000, so give them or the other resellers like keh a chance to give a quote. Should beat the singular €1000 for both.

 

[kaihp]

A quick look on mbp.com shows the 1dx3 listed for €2500-3000, so give them or the other resellers like keh a chance to give a quote. Should beat the singular €1000 for both.

FWIW it seems that mbp pays around 30% (25-35% iirc) under private-to-private sales price.

 

[docsmith]

First two posts covered pretty much everything. Check KEH/MPN to see what they'd give you and look at person to person sales.

If you even really want to move on as...

I am happy with my 1dxs

I am a big fan at upgrading for need. If you are happy...keep shooting. If you have a specific need...then upgrade if something fits that need.

I briefly had the 1DX III as a loaner to try it out. I opted for the R5 largely for the AF/Eye AF. It is impressive. Pre-capture/40 fps, etc. But are you really going to mess with happiness? There needs to be a good reason, IMO.

 

[OldrockyGN]

I have 2 Mk 3 1dxs and one 7Dmk 2. I only rarely use the 7d at all and I have it since I bought the 1Dx mk ll. I use it instead of a converter.(seperate debate) My plan was to upgrade the 7d to a R7 mk ll when it became available. I was not too gone on getting an R1 until I started seeing Jan Wggener and Adrian Fopp reviews. I do wildlife including birds.
So I dropped into my Canon pro dealership where I get most of my gear. So I asked about the trade in values …..
With out even glancing at the 1dx I had with me I was told no one wants them , they are to heavy and the R6 mk ll was a better camera ……( never met this guy before) etc and I would be lucky to get 1000 euros off a 7500 euro R1.
I am neither interested in taking that much of a hit nor bothered. I am happy with my !dxs and I am not selling images any more and I guess the Mk lll will still be worth 1000 euros in 2-3 years.
Meanwhile the 1dxs new price has not been reduced nor am I seeing many second hand.
So whats actually happening. ?
Ironically there was a 45 year old F1 with an AE head and motordrive on sale in the same shop for 740 euro……..
it must be a lighter camera. …

Speedfinder - if you are happy with the 1dx then by all means keep it. If you are going to 'upgrade' then
go with a mirrorless ... but don't forget that your lens(es?) won't fit directly on an R7m2/etc. Used gear,
especially if it is a 'generational change' such as from a DSLR to a mirrorless doesn't have much value.
One of the biggest features of the recent releases is the AF which is really important for wildlife and
birds. I have the R5m2 and I can even tell that the AF is better than the R7 - quicker and more precise.
I recently upgraded my software from Elements to LrC and that was a -huge- improvement.
- OR in the PNW

 

[candyman]

Used gear,
especially if it is a 'generational change' such as from a DSLR to a mirrorless doesn't have much value.

That is partly true. If you sell it to a reseller as a trade-in, you get less in return. The reseller wants to make money from it and must take into account a price reduction if the gear is on the shelf for too long. But there are still plenty of people who are taking the step from mobile or point-and-shoot or step-in DSLR to more professional gear. They go for the DSLR and EF (or EF-s) because quality (read L lenses) can also be purchased there for relatively low prices.
You will get a better price if you sell it privately.

 

[OldrockyGN]

In another of my hobbie,s we have a term "BSO" which is short for "Bright Shiny Object" ... you are correct, Candyman, and I
probably should have said "doesn't have much value (at least to me)". OTH if you paid multiple K amounts of money and
now you are finding it is only worth one K ... doesn't that qualify as "doesn't have much value"?
Please note - I am not talking about the quality of the images from a DSLR ... only the price. Heck, even a used R7
doesn't fetch much money in today's market. And it is certainly true that you can get a lot of camera for a lot less
money if you find a used DSLR. It is strange - at least to me - that places like B&H still have DSLRs on the shelf that
they want to sell for what I consider to be large amounts of money when compared to mirrorless equivalents.
OR in the PNW

 

[candyman]

In another of my hobbie,s we have a term "BSO" which is short for "Bright Shiny Object" ... you are correct, Candyman, and I
probably should have said "doesn't have much value (at least to me)". OTH if you paid multiple K amounts of money and
now you are finding it is only worth one K ... doesn't that qualify as "doesn't have much value"?
Please note - I am not talking about the quality of the images from a DSLR ... only the price. Heck, even a used R7
doesn't fetch much money in today's market. And it is certainly true that you can get a lot of camera for a lot less
money if you find a used DSLR. It is strange - at least to me - that places like B&H still have DSLRs on the shelf that
they want to sell for what I consider to be large amounts of money when compared to mirrorless equivalents.
OR in the PNW

On the other hand I see that resellers are selling the 1DX Mark III with prices between €2600 and €3500. That depends on the condition (wear and tear) of the camera and the number of clicks. If it has a lot of wear and a high number of clicks, the assumption is that you would not be able to get more than €1500 for it. The price of €1000 seems very low. With little wear and fewer than 100K clicks, you could expect a trade-in price from the reseller of between €2500 and €2700.
But, I'm not the reseller. Of course, the reseller also takes into account that this type of camera has small customer interest. I have traded in a lot myself, keep an eye on this price development (compare), but the reseller determines the price and only 'you' decide whether it is a deal.
If the camera was bought last year for 7,500 euros and now yields at best 2,700 euros, that is of course still unpleasant.

 

[john1970]

I just checked B&H Photo in NYC and according to their on-line quote tool a Canon EOS-1DX Mark III is worth between $1270 to $1500 depending on condition. Of course, you could get more in direct person to person sale.

To put things in perspective, the Canon R3 is worth $1735 to $1935 depending on condition as well. When I traded-in my R3 locally I received a $1900 store credit towards my R1.

 

[neuroanatomist]

KEH and MPB generally offer more than B&H.

 

[tareqphoto]

It is very sad but this is the reality, we pay $10000 for a camera only in like several years we can't get even 1/2-1/3 of its original price regardless of the conditions, so i spent $20k on cameras, i will be happy if i can sell them for $8k-12k if possible, but i know it will be impossible, and the more i wait to get right prices and interested seller the more value will drop, so it is like we have to accept whatever we can find as long we can get rid of it on time.

 

[mmmm]

You have to consider the value you yourself gained from the camera, be it in monetary terms or simple pleasure and excellent shots. ‘Only’ getting 1 or 2 grand for an 8 grand camera X amount of years later is a deeply subjective debate.