EOS R1: One camera to rule them all

[David - Sydney]

And I thought all big agencies were buying the wonder of the century, the A1 II...
Believe me, I read it here from well informed camera and market experts!

I am guessing that the agencies will buy direct to Sony and not via local retailer... for the countries that Sony can sell direct. B2B model.
In any case, who said anything about "buying"! I thought that Sony was giving them away to get the agencies to move to Sony

 

[David - Sydney]

It looks like the R1 convinced many DSLR 1 series owners, what the R3 could not fully achieve.
Time has now come to announce the RF 200-500...

The 1 series DLSRs have an enviable lifespan and I believe a lot a potential R1 buyers were waiting for the "flagship" to be released before migrating. Although the R1 may seem to be "minor" upgrade to the R3, there are enough reasons for most 1D users to finally migrate.
In the unlikely case that the R1 price puts them off then the discounted R3 would be an easy decision

Similarly, if I was a sports, wildlife or wedding/events photographer then the R5ii's new features would be a simple justification for upgrade from my R5

 

[jam05]

Sales figures from \"Yodobashi Camera\" is not really impressive.

 

[neuroanatomist]

The 1 series DLSRs have an enviable lifespan and I believe a lot a potential R1 buyers were waiting for the "flagship" to be released before migrating. Although the R1 may seem to be "minor" upgrade to the R3, there are enough reasons for most 1D users to finally migrate.

^^This is what Canon understood, and what was beyond the mental grasp of the “R1 is an R3II” and “Only 24 MP WTF?!” interweb ‘experts’.

 

[Swissbob]

Yeah about that 200-500.....if it's an f4....it aint gonna be small....or light....or cheap.....

If it’s not an F4 with tc I won’t care.

1000mm f8 here we go

I hope the Zoom throw will be as short as possible ( that’s what annoys me on the 200-800mm, it takes to long to zoom), in that case the push/pull 100-400 has been magnificent.

 

[Richard CN]

Funny thing is the R100 has consistently stayed in the top ten on Amazon US. Currently #4. Richard may not like it, but it does sell in the US and likely China, too. It will take pictures at least as well as a 100D/200D/250D and I found both the SL1 and SL2 to be fine little cameras. I have since donated both to kids and grandkids, but I have lots of satisfying images from each. For the money, the R100 will bring new entrants to the photography game who can't, at this point, afford more. The R100 is the low price leader and sells for less than most 1/2.3 imager cameras. The only camera with a decent imager that comes close is the Panasonic G7.

Inexpensive has a quality of its own. But my grips with the R100 are that it's not a great bridge camera, removing the touchscreen was idiotic.

it should have been modelled more from the M200 - including the UI.

 

[Richard CN]

Sales figures from \"Yodobashi Camera\" is not really impressive.

they absolutely are! we're talking about one of the meccas of camera retailers.

they did around 2 billion USD in online sales, which places them behind Apple and Amazon in terms of online sales in Japan. Total sales volume of around 5 billion USD.

as far as I can tell, that is around 5 to 10x larger than B&H Photo, when the USA has 3 times the population.

 

[Dragon]

they absolutely are! we're talking about one of the meccas of camera retailers.

they did around 2 billion USD in online sales, which places them behind Apple and Amazon in terms of online sales in Japan. Total sales volume of around 5 billion USD.

as far as I can tell, that is around 5 to 10x larger than B&H Photo, when the USA has 3 times the population.

It is worth going to Akihabara just to see the Yodobashi store there.

 

[Dragon]

If it’s not an F4 with tc I won’t care.

1000mm f8 here we go

I hope the Zoom throw will be as short as possible ( that’s what annoys me on the 200-800mm, it takes to long to zoom), in that case the push/pull 100-400 has been magnificent.

I find if you loosen the friction a bit, the 200-800 works quite well as a push-pull zoom.

 

[Del Paso]

they absolutely are! we're talking about one of the meccas of camera retailers.

they did around 2 billion USD in online sales, which places them behind Apple and Amazon in terms of online sales in Japan. Total sales volume of around 5 billion USD.

as far as I can tell, that is around 5 to 10x larger than B&H Photo, when the USA has 3 times the population.

I'll check in October with some money in my pocket...
2 billion USD? Hard to imagine!

 

[Richard CN]

I'll check in October with some money in my pocket...
2 billion USD? Hard to imagine!

I'm jealous!

 

[Del Paso]

I'm jealous!

I'm gonna buy myriads of cute little R100 , so, your jealousy is fully justified!
PS: To be honest, "some" money doesn't stand for huge amounts. But I'm hoping for the odd Leica M lens. And the Canons will keep coming from the UK via Panamoz...
I'll rather spend money in restaurants, hardware- and bookstores. And I plan to spend my time in gardens, museums and nature (hoping for no encounter with a mamushi ).

 

[EverydayPhotographer]

Even one Megapickle uses up a lot of cucumbers. .

More than that though is a really big dill...

 

[neuroanatomist]

More than that though is a really big dill...

You guys really need to stop gherkin around...

 

[Omn]

Looks like Sony didn't pay for enough propaganda.

Although the R1 may seem to be "minor" upgrade to the R3,

On a small pic on the phone with zero information.

 

[Shashin]

According to Kakaku.com, the R1 is ranked 16 in sales.

 

[scyrene]

I really want an RF 500 f/5.6 L. Like the old EF 400 f/5.6 L. Small light sharp and some reach, fits easily in a backpack. I still use the 400 5.6 a lot on my R1 and R6. IBIS helps it along a lot.

I thought the consensus was that IBIS has little appreciable effect at that sort of focal length?

 

[neuroanatomist]

I thought the consensus was that IBIS has little appreciable effect at that sort of focal length?

Don't know about consensus, but both Canon and physics agree that IBIS is of very limited benefit at long focal lengths. For example, the RF 100-400mm at 400mm delivers 5.5 stops of stabilization from the lens and gains a whopping 0.5 stops with an IBIS body for a total of 6 stops of stabilization. Maybe @CanonGrunt is experiencing psychosomatic benefit.

 

[Del Paso]

I thought the consensus was that IBIS has little appreciable effect at that sort of focal length?

Not too long ago, I tested an RF 180 macro, without OIS on the R5 II. I didn't notice any really obvious advantage using IBIS. I guess the stabilisation effect will even be less on a longer focal length. It is common knowledge that, while useful for short focal lengths, IBIS has little effect on teles, unlike OIS. I guess it is due to the limited sensor movement amplitude.
Edit: I took my desires for realities. EF 180 macro, of course!

 

[koenkooi]

Not too long ago, I tested an RF 180 macro,

RF 180?!?!? Gimme!

without OIS on the R5 II. I didn't notice any really obvious advantage using IBIS. I guess the stabilisation effect will even be less on a longer focal length. It is common knowledge that, while useful for short focal lengths, IBIS has little effect on teles, unlike OIS. I guess it is due to the limited sensor movement amplitude.

WIth the EF180L in the R5(II) I notice that the viewfinder is more pleasant to use, a small but very nice improvement.