I'm preordering the R3 when it's released. It is going to replace my sony a9ii. I am only buying it because money is not a concern currently. If money was a concern it would be a hard pass.
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Is September 14 the day we finally get the official Canon EOS R3 announcement?
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The very same one who penned: "Better a witty fool, than a foolish wit."Was this the same Shakespeare who once twitted that:
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Well, after your neg commentary about the R3, I'm surprised you're getting it but do hope it works for you. As to money being of no current concern, of course, we don't yet know the price, guesses of which are all over the board. To most of the rest of us out here, money, at some level is usually a concern.
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Wow, you know a few people. Good for you. News flash: anecdotes ≠ data. 55% of the press cameras used at the recent Tokyo Olympics were Canon. Those are data. Can you see the difference? Oh, I know…sporting events aren’t weddings. Fine, share the data on wedding photographers. Except we both know you have no such data.
So all you can say is that Canon has lost huge ground in the minuscule market niche that comprises the handful of professionals you know. Your personal experience differs from the available data.
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Cropping per se doesn't reduce the dof. But then enlarging the smaller sensor area to the same output size does reduce dof. Take a look at this thread.
How (and why) does sensor size change DOF?
The simplest answer is from Gale Tattersall, DP of the TV show HOUSE : a larger sensor requires a longer lens to achieve the same field of view. The longer the lens the less DOF. (aperture staying the same of course) Which aperture: the f-stop or the physical one? If it is the former, start...
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But do Canon or Sony care if the A1 or R5 is sold to an amateur or professional? A sale is a sale and Canon rules the sales with over twice the volume as Sony and over 30% more increase in market share than Sony.
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I meant canon has gained ground with it's low level consumer cameras. Sony prosumer mirrorless has largely devastated canon in the past few years
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But you don't know the sales numbers of the different models. Certainly Canon were selling every R5 they could make and ship for a long time.
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The 500D diopter is great but quite hard to findI fully agree, I love the EF 100-400for macros too. Ideal for remaining on the path, getting the picture, without destroying the surrounding vegetation. It is my second-often used lens. You just convinced me to get the 500 D dioptre!
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Yes I am talking about before the R5. They've gained ground with the R5. The R5 was revolutionary
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Don't feel bad. You are not confused. If the camera isn't labeled "Super Charged" somewhere, I'm not buying either. Damn the performance. Also, the camera must address me as "Stallion" at startup.
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Low level consumer camera sales have been falling for quite some time, across all manufacturers. Yet Canon has gained overall. But if facts aren’t enough to overcome your opinions, it’s unlikely deductive reasoning will be able to do so.
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I am not refuting that canon has gained ground in low level consumer cameras. I just said the area where canon has been killed by sony (pre-R5) is prosumer mirrorless
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Yes. Among the handful of people you know. You’re assuming those you know are somehow representative of a broader group, with no evidence to support that assumption.
I know several advanced enthusiast and pro photographers who shoot FF and have recently switched from Sony to Canon, and one who switched from Nikon to Sony. But I am not concluding that Canon is killing Sony in the prosumer mirrorless arena, because I understand the difference between anecdotes and data, an understanding that you apparently lack.
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When you see famous people on IG switching to sony from canon, peers in your industry, when you read articles about people switching to mirrorless, and then when you yourself switch, it is very easy to deduce what is going on. It is widely known that people have been dropping nikon and canon for sony mirrorless when sony had the only mirrorless offering in the market. If you don't see that then you're living under a rock
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"In the second quarter, the share of total sales attributable to the EOS R5 and EOS R6, for which sales remain strong, has increased more than expected. "
- Canon financial document
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I agree with that sentiment. Crisp class deep Canon every time. Because you can navigate to hold it properly. Beauty.
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Sony (and other manufacturers) routinely compensate influencers to publicly switch. Sure, Sony had FF mirrorless for 5 years longer than Canon. So anyone who wanted a FF MILC went Sony. That has changed. As I stated, 55% of the press at the Olympics used Canon. That’s higher than Canon’s 48% share of the ILC market as a whole.
Bringing personal anecdotes and your own opinion to an objective discussion rarely ends well. If you want to claim you think Sony makes the bestest cameras ever, that’s fine. If you want to claim that Sony is crushing Canon in the prosumer camera market, bring some data.
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yes absolutely, if you've read the thread I said pre-R5 sony has devastated canon in mirrorless.
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