Kodak is #1 in Japan

[EOS 4 Life]

Canon is one of the most expensive systems in the market of fullframe mirrorless systems since the R System.

Who else has cameras cheaper than the R50, R100, T7, and T100 on the market?
When it comes to full-frame, Canon has the RP and the R8.
There have also been price drops in the R6 II, R5, R5 C, and R3.
Other brands have had price drops as well but Canon is at least on par.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Yeah, there are things that Canon can do better (I wish Canon has some mid-level telephoto primes between the 100-500/200-800 and the big superteles, and some wide fast glass like the 14/1.4 and 15/1.4), but low-cost and volume sellers are their bread and butter.

Canon can only make so many lenses.
They might get around to those eventually.

 

[Juppeck]

Canon could do much more better that just this, but this would be a good start do change. Actually, canon license the rf to sigman and tamron to produce lenses for APS-C Bodies only. I don't expect that they will do it for FF in the same way. Sigma and Tamron are able to produce prime lenses too and that for a cheaper price. All the non-L Canon Lenses are also to expensive compared by the EF STM's. Just 100 bugs for an EF50 f/1.8 STM is gone.
Around €2650.- for an RF 15-35 f/2.8 is all other than cheap - even that's a good glas. The EF-Version III is on the same optical level, but €750.- cheaper.

 

[vikingar]

I once bought a retro looking dumb-phone because of nostalgia. Never really used it, ended up as e-waste.

I don't doubt people are buying these cameras, the data is clear. But my best guess is that this is a fad. They are going to use them once or twice and show them off on social media, then they'll sit in a drawer somewhere.

 

[Juppeck]

I once bought a retro looking dumb-phone because of nostalgia. Never really used it, ended up as e-waste.

I don't doubt people are buying these cameras, the data is clear. But my best guess is that this is a fad. They are going to use them once or twice and show them off on social media, then they'll sit in a drawer somewhere.

That's possible.

 

[DhlcadR6]

recently on social media, there's been a trend of millennials buying CCD/old CMOS compact digital cameras for that vintage look.....I can never understand it but I guess mankind not being logical is the most mankind thing ever....

 

[Askeladden]

recently on social media, there's been a trend of millennials buying CCD/old CMOS compact digital cameras for that vintage look.....I can never understand it but I guess mankind not being logical is the most mankind thing ever....

No, they are for the most part gen-z girls, not millennials, I know as I sell these things on a classifieds site. Millennials grew up with digicams all around them so it doesn't have the same attraction to them, millennials are more into film cameras and that sort.

The trend is pushed by several factors such as tiktok/youtube influencers. These things have been discontinued for close to 10 years now along with the fact an entire generation is now at that age where they are making their own money and want a "proper camera" in a form factor that largely no longer exist.
Canon for instance haven't made IXUS cameras since 2017 and you have to go back one more year to find their top of the line model. This vacuum exist because most of the demographic for digicams were satisfied with their mobile phone cameras at the time, right now we are at a point where there is a realization that dedicated cameras can give a different look, something as simple as having a built-in flash sells these things.

 

[neuroanatomist]

I don't doubt people are buying these cameras, the data is clear. But my best guess is that this is a fad.

Perhaps. Vinyl seems to be sticking around a bit, one of my teenagers just started buying, and a couple of mall chain stores have an extensive vinyl selection. Heck, even Target has vinyl records now. Having said that, the current generation that appears to be buying point and shoot cameras is not known for sticking with things.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

right now we are at a point where there is a realization that dedicated cameras can give a different look, something as simple as having a built-in flash sells these things.

Phones also have built-in flashes.

 

[Askeladden]

Phones also have built-in flashes.

Yes, but it is not the same.

 

[LDS]

i know a couple of guys who love to play music of an analog vinyl record.

Thanks to heaven! I was able to replace lately my turntable - and keep on listening to my extensive collection that goes back to 78 rpms shellac records from my grandfather (and there are also the required styluses to play them). I understand less buying new music on vinyl, although I appreciate the physical product - cover, insets - which gives "personality" to each one, and gives work to photographers and graphic artists. I appreciate less the fight with dust.

For the same reason I would appreciate compact cameras easy to carry around, as long as they are better cameras than phones - less getting older cameras because their quirks becomes somewhat fashionable - for a while. But if people are happy, why took the toy away?