PhotonsToPhotos Results for the EOS R1

[LSXPhotog]

Let me quote Canon's manual again:
"...The white [Overheating warning] icon indicates that the image quality of still photos will decline. Stop shooting for a while and allow the camera to cool down."

"...The red [Overheating warning] icon indicates that shooting will soon be terminated automatically. Shooting will not be possible again until the camera cools down internally, so stop shooting temporarily or turn off the camera and let it cool down a while."

Any time you see the heat gauge (1 white bar e.g.) the camera is starting to overheat. Period. Again, this is from the Canon's user manual. Their words, not mine.

Your interpretation of the word “overheat” and mine are clearly different. To me, overheating is when the camera shuts down because it’s too hot to use…I’d argue that’s what most people think of when they hear “my camera overheated”. Your definition is that the camera is getting hot. Canon probably made a mistake calling this “overheating warning” because it’s more of a temperature gauge showing users the camera is getting hotter. I think it’s inaccurate to say the camera overheated because the temperature gauge was showing. It’s getting hotter and still working.

 

[koenkooi]

Your interpretation of the word “overheat” and mine are clearly different. To me, overheating is when the camera shuts down because it’s too hot to use…I’d argue that’s what most people think of when they hear “my camera overheated”. Your definition is that the camera is getting hot. Canon probably made a mistake calling this “overheating warning” because it’s more of a temperature gauge showing users the camera is getting hotter. I think it’s inaccurate to say the camera overheated because the temperature gauge was showing. It’s getting hotter and still working.

It really is a double edged sword: you get a decent indicator to estimate when it’s going to overheat so you can adjust your usage if needed, but it also stresses out some people because they suddenly realize that all electronics will heat up when powered.

 

[0x2102]

Your interpretation of the word “overheat” and mine are clearly different. To me, overheating is when the camera shuts down because it’s too hot to use…I’d argue that’s what most people think of when they hear “my camera overheated”. Your definition is that the camera is getting hot. Canon probably made a mistake calling this “overheating warning” because it’s more of a temperature gauge showing users the camera is getting hotter. I think it’s inaccurate to say the camera overheated because the temperature gauge was showing. It’s getting hotter and still working.

Canon didn't made a mistake in the manual.

It seems like your definition of overheating equals to the thermal shutdown or just prior to that, while overheating starts with an undesirable state.

Normal Operating Range (no temperature gauge)

Warning Threshold (white bars) where you may start to experience performance issues (increased noise, reduced dynamic range and potential impact on longevity of certain components)

Critical Threshold (red bars) shortly followed by a thermal shutdown to protect components from damage.

Overheating is not a binary state - it includes a range of temperatures where the camera is hot enough to cause concern, even if it’s still operational. This is indicated with the temperature gauge.

 

[Phil995511]

Too bad that the comments on the article "Canon eyes chip fabrication in India" are closed ;-(

Already Canon is not able to equip its devices with chips that do not heat up too much, that their products pose a problem for this reason and consume far too much energy, it is at TSMC that they should produce their chips in 2 nm, not in India !!! This suggests that for them only financial profits count ;-(

A case like the R5 MK 2 consumes way too much power, overheats in video, is sadly limited to 45 MP and is sold at a totally indecent price !!!

If in the past Canon produced 50 mm F1 lenses, DO F4 super telephoto lenses, etc., today Canon is lagging behind in terms of innovation and no longer makes people dream.

Personally I will not buy mirrorless bodies, whether from them or elsewhere. So for now I\'m going to stop buying Canon equipment...

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Canon didn't made a mistake in the manual.

It seems like your definition of overheating equals to the thermal shutdown or just prior to that, while overheating starts with an undesirable state.

Normal Operating Range (no temperature gauge)

Warning Threshold (white bars) where you may start to experience performance issues (increased noise, reduced dynamic range and potential impact on longevity of certain components)

Critical Threshold (red bars) shortly followed by a thermal shutdown to protect components from damage.

Overheating is not a binary state - it includes a range of temperatures where the camera is hot enough to cause concern, even if it’s still operational. This is indicated with the temperature gauge.

I prefer Canon's early warnings to the other brands that overheat with very little notice.
By the way, even Canon cinema cameras can get overheat warnings even though it is just a warning about fan noise.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Personally I will not buy mirrorless bodies, whether from them or elsewhere. So for now I\'m going to stop buying Canon equipment...

It is a fair criticism for mirrorless but Canon is no worse than the other brands.
Although, Canon, Panasonic, and Sony do have models with built-in fans that do not overheat.
By the way, overheating is mostly a problem for video.
There are plenty of video cameras that do not overheat.
There is no reason to rely on mirrorless cameras for video.

 

[PerKr]

This suggests that for them only financial profits count ;-(

How many companies do you know of that do not priotitize profits? The only ones that do not prioritize ultimate profit are those who do not want to compromise the brand, which incidentally is because that would in the end have an effect on profits

 

[PerKr]

Canon didn't made a mistake in the manual.

It seems like your definition of overheating equals to the thermal shutdown or just prior to that, while overheating starts with an undesirable state.

Normal Operating Range (no temperature gauge)

Warning Threshold (white bars) where you may start to experience performance issues (increased noise, reduced dynamic range and potential impact on longevity of certain components)

Critical Threshold (red bars) shortly followed by a thermal shutdown to protect components from damage.

Overheating is not a binary state - it includes a range of temperatures where the camera is hot enough to cause concern, even if it’s still operational. This is indicated with the temperature gauge.

So if canon simply didn't give a temperature warning prior to reaching critical temperature, you would be happy.

According to the interwebs, Sony cameras are quite prone to overheating as well. If you want to avoid it, get a professional video camera rather than relying on stills-oriented products.

 

[LSXPhotog]

Canon didn't made a mistake in the manual.

It seems like your definition of overheating equals to the thermal shutdown or just prior to that, while overheating starts with an undesirable state.

Normal Operating Range (no temperature gauge)

Warning Threshold (white bars) where you may start to experience performance issues (increased noise, reduced dynamic range and potential impact on longevity of certain components)

Critical Threshold (red bars) shortly followed by a thermal shutdown to protect components from damage.

Overheating is not a binary state - it includes a range of temperatures where the camera is hot enough to cause concern, even if it’s still operational. This is indicated with the temperature gauge.

Ok man, enjoy your camera.

 

[scyrene]

Too bad that the comments on the article "Canon eyes chip fabrication in India" are closed ;-(

Already Canon is not able to equip its devices with chips that do not heat up too much, that their products pose a problem for this reason and consume far too much energy, it is at TSMC that they should produce their chips in 2 nm, not in India !!! This suggests that for them only financial profits count ;-(

A case like the R5 MK 2 consumes way too much power, overheats in video, is sadly limited to 45 MP and is sold at a totally indecent price !!!

If in the past Canon produced 50 mm F1 lenses, DO F4 super telephoto lenses, etc., today Canon is lagging behind in terms of innovation and no longer makes people dream.

Personally I will not buy mirrorless bodies, whether from them or elsewhere. So for now I\'m going to stop buying Canon equipment...

So glad you took the time to let us know

 

[neuroanatomist]

Personally I will not buy mirrorless bodies, whether from them or elsewhere. So for now I\'m going to stop buying Canon equipment...

So you’re switching to Pentax? Enjoy!

 

[DrToast]

Yeah I agree for the core photo taking specs — in fact the R5II can do 30 fps lossless raw but the A1II can only do 20 fps in that mode.

Thank you. I hate how Sony bullied the photo reviewers into reporting the A1 can shoot 30fps.

It was always standard practice to report a cameras FPS in terms of lossless raw, but then Sony started highlighting their compressed raw image and reporters wanting to stay in Sony's good graces started focusing on that figure.

 

[Quack]

TDP's sample ISO12233 crops do indicate that the lens is sharper at 600mm than 800mm.

Which is meaningless if the additional magnification gives you greater resolution and detail at 800mm. And my 200-800 certainly gives me more resolution at 800mm than 600mm.

 

[Quack]

Too bad that the comments on the article "Canon eyes chip fabrication in India" are closed ;-(

Already Canon is not able to equip its devices with chips that do not heat up too much, that their products pose a problem for this reason and consume far too much energy, it is at TSMC that they should produce their chips in 2 nm, not in India !!! This suggests that for them only financial profits count ;-(

A case like the R5 MK 2 consumes way too much power, overheats in video, is sadly limited to 45 MP and is sold at a totally indecent price !!!

If in the past Canon produced 50 mm F1 lenses, DO F4 super telephoto lenses, etc., today Canon is lagging behind in terms of innovation and no longer makes people dream.

Personally I will not buy mirrorless bodies, whether from them or elsewhere. So for now I\'m going to stop buying Canon equipment...

What dreamworld are you living in? The R5 II is possibly the best camera ever made up until now. The issues you think are serious, are not, are easily avoided and effect almost no one. Limited to 45 MP? Not even sure how to respond to such a silly comment. They are producing lenses that have NEVER been available until now. It is one thing to have an opinion. It is another to be totally ignorant.

 

[OldDudePhotog]

What dreamworld are you living in? The R5 II is possibly the best camera ever made up until now. The issues you think are serious, are not, are easily avoided and effect almost no one. Limited to 45 MP? Not even sure how to respond to such a silly comment. They are producing lenses that have NEVER been available until now. It is one thing to have an opinion. It is another to be totally ignorant.

I do not think ignorance is the issue here, I believe he's just a hater here to spread discontent. I agree with you that the R5M2 is a great camera, though I do have to say there are a couple of things I am not very excited about it, but I can manage and live with it.

 

[candyman]

I agree with you that the R5M2 is a great camera, though I do have to say there are a couple of things I am not very excited about it, but I can manage and live with it.

Would you mind sharing what things you're not really excited about? Perhaps with examples of how to manage this in practice? That is very much appreciated. Thanks

 

[OldDudePhotog]

Would you mind sharing what things you're not really excited about? Perhaps with examples of how to manage this in practice? That is very much appreciated. Thanks

The heating issue with video and the rather small buffer are put-offs for me. Other than that I like the camera just fine. As cheap as ram is, there really is no excuse for such a tiny buffer in a 45mp camera IMO.

 

[neuroanatomist]

As cheap as ram is, there really is no excuse for such a tiny buffer in a 45mp camera IMO.

The LPDDR used is not as cheap as consumer RAM, but more importantly, RAM is very power hungry and not easy to do power management on.

 

[candyman]

The heating issue with video and the rather small buffer are put-offs for me. Other than that I like the camera just fine. As cheap as ram is, there really is no excuse for such a tiny buffer in a 45mp camera IMO.

Thank you for sharing. I'm saving for a new camera (keeping the R8). That will most likely be the R5 Mark II, but could also be the R1. I believe if I had the R5 Mark II then I would use standard C-Raw. That gives a little more play on the buffer. But this is of course a personal choice or preference. I rarely film with the (DSLR) mirrorless camera because I have a separate video camera. I also read that the camera can become warm and this may have an impact on DR (rarely have an issue with that) and image quality. I'm curious how and whether this is noticeable in photos. Perhaps this is not noticeable in 98% (guess) of situations.

 

[P-visie]

Thank you for sharing. I'm saving for a new camera (keeping the R8). That will most likely be the R5 Mark II, but could also be the R1. I believe if I had the R5 Mark II then I would use standard C-Raw. That gives a little more play on the buffer. But this is of course a personal choice or preference. I rarely film with the (DSLR) mirrorless camera because I have a separate video camera. I also read that the camera can become warm and this may have an impact on DR (rarely have an issue with that) and image quality. I'm curious how and whether this is noticeable in photos. Perhaps this is not noticeable in 98% (guess) of situations.

I’ve taken +/- 20.000 pictures since August with the R5 Mk II and have not had any temperature warning. Most pictures were taken in the Netherlands, with temperatures not exceeding 30 degrees Celsius.