SIGMA RF mount lens information finally coming in February 2024? [CR1]

[DhlcadR6]

@DhlcadR6 wrote ;and I blindly assumed it was true the following…
I tried to find a list of all sigma lenses and date of release (just like Wikipedia has for canon) but couldn’t find anything. Before or maybe just when the internet started so not many articles.

“It was around 10 years right? EOS 650 introduced in 1987, and in 1998 Sigma has 28-70mm F2.8 EX ASPHERICAL. There's little info if there's other 3rd party”

It's from Sigma's official website. For Tamron/Tokina they didn't list theem like Sigma. So I presumed Sigma is the first on to make 3rd party AF EF lenses.

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[EricN]

@DhlcadR6 wrote ;and I blindly assumed it was true the following…
I tried to find a list of all sigma lenses and date of release (just like Wikipedia has for canon) but couldn’t find anything. Before or maybe just when the internet started so not many articles.

“It was around 10 years right? EOS 650 introduced in 1987, and in 1998 Sigma has 28-70mm F2.8 EX ASPHERICAL. There's little info if there's other 3rd party”

Let's be honest, whether or not it was 1998, it's fortunate for those wanting third party autofocus that Canon is allowing it to happen at all.

 

[mdcmdcmdc]

@DhlcadR6 wrote ;and I blindly assumed it was true the following…
I tried to find a list of all sigma lenses and date of release (just like Wikipedia has for canon) but couldn’t find anything. Before or maybe just when the internet started so not many articles.

“It was around 10 years right? EOS 650 introduced in 1987, and in 1998 Sigma has 28-70mm F2.8 EX ASPHERICAL. There's little info if there's other 3rd party”

I didn't really start paying that much attention until the early 1990's. My first Sigma lens was a 70-210 f/2.8 APO I bought in early 1995, and they were just coming out with a version 2 of that lens.

This is the January 1989 issue of Popular Photography on Google Books. The second page--the inside front cover--is a full page Sigma ad featuring an AF 35-135 mm zoom "NEW - (C) for Canon EOS". And the page after that is an AF APO 500mm f/4.5, also for Canon. I didn't peruse the ads in the back to see how many others there were at that time.

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[DhlcadR6]

I have a hard time believing that.
I am not even sure which lenses Canon could let Sigma bring over.
Maybe some of their zooms since Canon zooms are pretty competitive.
Pretty much any Sigma prime would cause problems for Canon right now.

Not really...Sigma's primes didn't hurt Sony's GM/G. Canon's needs to pump up their production power if they want to remain competitive without 3rd parties.

Imagine a Sigma Foveon full frame camera with RF mount...

RF mount FPL will do.

Why is that? Reading this forum seems no one would ever buy a Sigma (or Tamron, or Tokina, or Viltrox, etc) lens because Canon glass is sooo much better. Canon shouldn't be afraid of letting other lens manufactures bring more options in, as those others certainly wouldn't sell a single piece of gear, confirming the Canon superiority on lands and seas. I think Canon should allow them to enter, just to show that nobody will buy that crappy third party glass!

Yea, Canon shouldn't be bother about the guys on internet claiming 3rd parties will take over Canon's sales. The 3rd parties are just expanding the undiscovered market for Canon.

I think I'm the only one in this forum that has both the Yongnuo 85mm f1.8R and 35mm f2R. On the bottom line, they are not crap but not the best for newbies.

My take on them is they are good&light for handheld video use, and NOT my preferred lenses for stills. I don't like Canon using gear type in silver ring primes, but the Macro capabilities are life saving for daily use. As my usage for cheap lens are food shots and close up shots (basically trying to replace my smartphones). That these Yongnuo MFD is not capable of (30+cm for the 35 f2R, 80+cm for 85 f1.8R), and my 35/f2R seems suffer AF-C/Servo AF instability in stills after firmware updates, I pray Yongnuo issue a new firmware to see if the problem can be solved, if not, I just stick with AF-S in stills.

I was hoping the Yongnuo 35/f2R on my R50 will be better than EF40 with Viltrox speedbooster, but in the end I still prefer the speedbooster solution or just buy the new RF28 pancake.

 

[David - Sydney]

I didn't really start paying that much attention until the early 1990's. My first Sigma lens was a 70-210 f/2.8 APO I bought in early 1995, and they were just coming out with a version 2 of that lens.

This is the January 1989 issue of Popular Photography on Google Books. The second page--the inside front cover--is a full page Sigma ad featuring an AF 35-135 mm zoom "NEW - (C) for Canon EOS". And the page after that is an AF APO 500mm f/4.5, also for Canon. I didn't peruse the ads in the back to see how many others there were at that time.

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Nice find! The bottom of the page shows another for Canon as well AF28-70mm f3.5-4.5
Pretty amazing that Sigma was able to reverse engineer the EF mount procotols in less than 2 years although I imagine that 3rd party AF would have been subpar compared to native lenses.
Then again... why let the facts get in the way of a good story!

 

[SNJ Ops]

Sigh, not even Sigma is making a 50 1.4.

I'm switching to Polaroid.

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Sigma’s mirrorless 50mm f1.4 DG DN that was released in February for E and L mount. According to the reviews its an excellent lens and costs way less than Sony’s and Panasonic’s equivalents.

 

[DhlcadR6]

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Sigma’s mirrorless 50mm f1.4 DG DN that was released in February for E and L mount. According to the reviews its an excellent lens and costs way less than Sony’s and Panasonic’s equivalents.

Yes...but since Canon OLLLDDDD EF 50mm f1.4 is less than 300g. I'm hoping the same weight but also comes with IS nano USM or IS lead-screw type STM

 

[Foxdude]

While I keep hoping for a 200-ish mm 1:1 macro lens, having a bunch of the DC DN APS-C lenses available in RF mount would be great. I have the EF-M 56mm f/1.4 and it's small, light-weight, has silent AF and very good IQ. Any of the lenses from the https://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/dc-dn page would be a good fit on RF-S bodies.

Does anyone want the SIGMA 50mm F1.4 DG DN | Art for RF as well?

Yes please. Just hoping the 50mm F1.4 Art prime to be more in size of small apple, not pineapple like Sigma's most Art lenses.
Sigma's aps-c lenses are really nice and compact though

 

[Dragon]

If Canon has no plan to make fast primes for RF-s, then letting Sigma port their APS-c primes over to RF mount would make sense for both parties.

 

[koenkooi]

If Canon has no plan to make fast primes for RF-s, then letting Sigma port their APS-c primes over to RF mount would make sense for both parties.

That’s another benefit EF-M has over RF-s

 

[DhlcadR6]

That’s another benefit EF-M has over RF-s

RF-S can use those RF IS STM primes and the pancake RF28. I wouldn't say EF-M has significant advantage. Sigma 16/23/30/56 f1.4 are quite big in comparison.

 

[SNJ Ops]

Yes...but since Canon OLLLDDDD EF 50mm f1.4 is less than 300g. I'm hoping the same weight but also comes with IS nano USM or IS lead-screw type STM

I assume that was a much older design. An optically well performing 50mm f1.4 with IS and linear motors would have to be larger and heavier. Currently the smallest and lightest lens of this description is Sony’s 50mm f1.4 GM.

While its possible I highly doubt Canon will make an RF version of the old EF 50mm f1.4 USM, I imagine there would be more profit in making a higher performing L series lens which is more similar to the 50mm f1.2 L but smaller, lighter and cheaper.

 

[bbasiaga]

50mm F1.4 DG DN | Art | LENSES | PRODUCTS | Sigma

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Sigma’s mirrorless 50mm f1.4 DG DN that was released in February for E and L mount. According to the reviews its an excellent lens and costs way less than Sony’s and Panasonic’s equivalents.

my post was just in jest. The article listed some lenses that were newer and may come over, and a 50mm f/2 was on that list. There is a long-standing gripe on this and other forums about Canons lack of a native RF 50 1.4.

 

[photographer]

I have an itchy buy finger poised over future purchase button for these lenses in RF:
1) 35mm f/1.2 (used to own in Sony mount, and miss it)
2) 105mm f/1.4

I have 6 or seven EF mount Art lenses already, and they're great with a converter, so I feel no need to swap them for RF equivalents. I like having EF mounts because I can use them possibly with other mirrorless mounts with the proper converter, which I've done quite a bit. But the 35mm f/1.2 above and the other mirrorless-only lenses they make will only work on an RF camera with an RF native mount.

I would exchange the Sigma EF 35 1.4 for a 1.2 (Canon or Sigma) + keep the Canon RF 35 1.8 for video and macro. I would sell the Sigma 105 EF version and buy the RF probably only if it were significantly lighter and smaller. Otherwise, it probably wouldn't be worth the extra money for me (loss on sale + buying a new one). I used to have problems with front and back focus with Sigma lenses. But that was solved by the arrival of mirrorless cameras.

 

[Dragon]

That’s another benefit EF-M has over RF-s

It would be nice to see the EF-M 32mm f/1.4 come across to RF. That is a sweet little lens. The 22mm pancake would be nice as well for extreme portability with the R50, R100, and R10. Both of those lenses work extremely well on the M6 II. The RF 28mm pancake is extremely sharp in FF and awesome over the crop frame FOV, so it sits in the middle. Primes at 16, 22, 28, 32, and 50 make for a decent crop frame setup and none of those are or would be all that expensive. The last bit needed would be a fast zoom harking back to the EF-s 17-55 f/2.8 or the Sigma 17-50 f/2.8.

 

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[koenkooi]

It would be nice to see the EF-M 32mm f/1.4 come across to RF. That is a sweet little lens. The 22mm pancake would be nice as well for extreme portability with the R50, R100, and R10. Both of those lenses work extremely well on the M6 II. The RF 28mm pancake is extremely sharp in FF and awesome over the crop frame FOV, so it sits in the middle. Primes at 16, 22, 28, 32, and 50 make for a decent crop frame setup and none of those are or would be all that expensive. The last bit needed would be a fast zoom harking back to the EF-s 17-55 f/2.8 or the Sigma 17-50 f/2.8.

For me that would only be attractive if there’s an M6II or M200 sized body to mount them on.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Sigma's primes didn't hurt Sony's GM/G

Sony sells more lenses than Canon for the first time ever.
However, Canon used to outsell everyone including Sigma and Tamron.
Sony could arguably be #1 without Sigma and Tamron.
Although, Sony probably needed their help early on and may have never gotten to this point without them.
What Sony did was interesting but Canon is relying on EF lenses to help fill out the lineup.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

50mm F1.4 DG DN | Art | LENSES | PRODUCTS | Sigma

This page is about Sigma's 50mm F1.4 DG DN.

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Sigma’s mirrorless 50mm f1.4 DG DN that was released in February for E and L mount. According to the reviews its an excellent lens and costs way less than Sony’s and Panasonic’s equivalents.

Sony kind of cripples 3rd party lenses though.
To be fair, they also cripple non-GM Sony lenses.
The only Sigma lens that I would pick over a GM lens right now is the 14 f/1.4.
Although, the Sony 14 f/1.8 GM is perfect for what it is.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Generally, their lenses drop in value like a brick because Sigma are constantly bringing out newer models.

I could not believe it when Sigma came out with a 14 f/1.4 at the same price and weight as the 14 f/1.8.