Worst of Canon 2023: It’s Unanimous

The most shameful failure for Canon in the year 2023 is simply
that Sony 200-600 with 1.4TC resolve noticeably better than Canon 200-800 without any additional optic.
It's a hearsay/QC variance. TDP samples of the 24-105STM and RF100-400 look awful. Yet the copies I have(I sold 24-105STM once and repurchased) are nice enough that they're up to EF 24-105L mark 2's level in my "limited" experience.

Many TDP sample photos on Canon lenses are worse than Sony counterparts...
 
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For a time, the EF 300mm f/2.8 + 2x TC was the only way of getting to 600mm at a wideish f-number and being hand holdable. I used it on the 22 Mpx 5DIII and got shots like this kingfisher. But, the 7DII gave it some extra reach.

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Was my photo of the Kingfisher complete cr*p because it was taken with a 5DIII camera without a touch screen, which doesn't even flip, the processor is an antique DIGIC 5+, only 22 Mpx and no bird eyeAF and no dual pixel AF? And it can do only 5 fps.
 
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Was my photo of the Kingfisher complete cr*p because it was taken with a 5DIII camera without a touch screen, which doesn't even flip, the processor is an antique DIGIC 5+, only 22 Mpx and no bird eyeAF and no dual pixel AF? And it can do only 5 fps.
@AlanF, I think I can say, "unanimously", that this is NOT a "cr*p" photo. I would be unbelievably proud if I took that shot!
 
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@AlanF, I think I can say, "unanimously", that this is NOT a "cr*p" photo. I would be unbelievably proud if I took that shot!
Thanks, but I was being ironic in showing that the features missing from the R100 and lamented were not present in the main jobbing pro and enthusiast camera of ten years ago. The price of the 5DIII was then $3500. The photos I take today are no better than then.
 
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Thanks, but I was being ironic in showing that the features missing from the R100 and lamented were not present in the main jobbing pro and enthusiast camera of ten years ago. The price of the 5DIII was then $3500. The photos I take today are no better than then.
And the irony is that the R100 will be capable of the same image today for 10% of the camera body price.
 
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Thanks, but I was being ironic in showing that the features missing from the R100 and lamented were not present in the main jobbing pro and enthusiast camera of ten years ago. The price of the 5DIII was then $3500. The photos I take today are no better than then.
Everything is the same, but now you have better options for cr*p.
 
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I say its 3Rd party lenses support that Canon does not want to allow. So, as a whole i vote with my wallet and will not buy anything Canon makes in protest. Keep in mind that I am ... scratch that ... WAS using Canon when everyone around me was using Nikon back when AE1 was still somewhat new camera. After decades of being loyal Canon customer, this has broken Camels back for me.
 
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I say its 3Rd party lenses support that Canon does not want to allow. So, as a whole i vote with my wallet and will not buy anything Canon makes in protest. Keep in mind that I am ... scratch that ... WAS using Canon when everyone around me was using Nikon back when AE1 was still somewhat new camera. After decades of being loyal Canon customer, this has broken Camels back for me.
Did you use third party lenses on your AE1 ?
 
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I never use it on my R5, not even for settings. I can't quite put my finger on it (pun intended) but for me Canon's touchscreen implementation always felt off.

I'm 100% sure I'm in the minority with that opinion as everyone always praises Canons touchscreen implementation. But from the first Rebels that had it to now in the R5, the screen seems to react unnaturally early, just before my finger actually presses down. Basically I find it too sensitive even on the "normal" setting. Never had that issue on any smartphone. Might be a personal thing, but that's why I never use it.
I think you bring up a good point against the "it needs a touch screen for smartphone users argument".
As someone who does occasionally use the touch screen, it is nothing like using a smartphone.
 
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It's a hearsay/QC variance. TDP samples of the 24-105STM and RF100-400 look awful. Yet the copies I have(I sold 24-105STM once and repurchased) are nice enough that they're up to EF 24-105L mark 2's level in my "limited" experience.

Many TDP sample photos on Canon lenses are worse than Sony counterparts...
Keep in mind that they compare 61 MP vs 45 MP.
 
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Was my photo of the Kingfisher complete cr*p because it was taken with a 5DIII camera without a touch screen, which doesn't even flip, the processor is an antique DIGIC 5+, only 22 Mpx and no bird eyeAF and no dual pixel AF? And it can do only 5 fps.

Your 5D had a joystick, big viewfinder and multiple buttons and wheels the R100 is lacking. If you want to change the focus point on the R100, you have to do click-click-click a million times, like 15 years ago. And when doing a burst shot it will stop after 10 images and you might miss your kingfisher.
 
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Your 5D had a joystick, big viewfinder and multiple buttons and wheels the R100 is lacking. If you want to change the focus point on the R100, you have to do click-click-click a million times, like 15 years ago. And when doing a burst shot it will stop after 10 images and you might miss your kingfisher.
Well, I guess those who buy the EOS R100 will not mainly use it as a wildlife camera. or for difficult subjects. But kingfisher shots are nevertheless possible, though, of course, easier with a 5 DIII. :)
 
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Your 5D had a joystick, big viewfinder and multiple buttons and wheels the R100 is lacking. If you want to change the focus point on the R100, you have to do click-click-click a million times, like 15 years ago. And when doing a burst shot it will stop after 10 images and you might miss your kingfisher.
You don't need those buttons and wheels, or changing focus points or megabursts for birds in flight. We all managed without them. For example,I used to use a 5DSR regularly for birds and dragonflies in flight. That camera has 5 fps and a buffer of only 15 for RAW. You don't do BIF by changing the focus points. Here's a selection of dragonflies in flight from the 5DSR posted on CR in the past. And I'll follow up with some birds. My keeper rate used to be very high, it's now very low as I bin so many from high speed bursts and it's less fun.

3Q7A0827-4-spotted_chaser_flying-lsss.jpg3Q7A2565-DxO_banded_demoiselle_flying+0.5.jpg3Q7A2628-DxO_emperor_dragonfly_flying_VS-ls-ss.jpg3Q7A3090-DxO_male+female_blue_damselflies_flying.jpg3Q7A3093-DxO_emperor_dragonfly_flying_towards_me-lsss.jpg3Q7A5877-DxO_darter_dragonfly_flying-lss.jpg
 
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I am not saying that the eyeAF, fast frame rate, tracking etc of the new mirrorless are a waste of time. Quite the opposite, I use them to the full. But, they haven't transformed what I do, they have extended the range and ease by various incremental amounts. It's the same with having longer focal length telephotos. You can still do a helluva lot without them.
 
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Same. As frame rates have gone up, keeper rate as a fraction of shots has gone down (a lot). The real question is has the number of keepers per outing/day/trip gone up. Mine has.
So has my need for storage gone up! Like you, I dive into the latest technology and really enjoy it and am among the first to buy. I do find the number of shots I now take problematic as I only keep the very best few shots and I spend too much time choosing them and discarding the very many that are almost identical in quality and composition. I suppose more discipline is required in taking fewer in the first place but if your camera takes 20-30 fps and has a big buffer the bursts are difficult to resist.
 
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Good call. It's a piece of trash no one should buy

That said, RFS (mount) and the 24-50 slow trash heap gets special mention.

RFS is STILL the worst crop mount available to consumer. And its all canons fault. 4 bodies, and an army of bottom barrel lenses. Yes, there is hope, but we're talking about 2023..

and it SUCKS what canon is doing to their crop customers.
 
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It should be patently obvious that canon knows the market best and has all the relevant data to justify their product decisions. We should respect their choices as we in the forum are not their target market
/end sarcasm/

LOLOLOLOL Nice one. :love:

The market decisions defenders are the worst. We got a couple famous ones in these forums, and on dpreview also, its the same dudes over and over again.

"you may think it sucks, and its missing features, but canon knows best"

=
Corpo huggers
Missing the point
Dont actually understand the category of the criticism
just dont get it

Happy forums 2024!
 
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