The Canon EOS R5 Mark II will not function with third-party batteries

[Canon Rumors]

For those of us that missed this little bit of information, it may be worth mentioning. Especially if you thought you had your battery plan all figured out. It looks like Canon has closed the door on third-party batteries for the time being as a power source for the EOS R5 Mark II. I looked

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[AlanF]

And the batteries are in short supply too.

 

[Canon Rumors]

And the batteries are in short supply too.

I updated with a blurb about that...... I can see some frustration if they drop the ball with battery supply.

 

[mxwphoto]

I understand that the new 6P battery may be requires for high fps shooting and some 8k modes, but selection of fine image quality, preshooting, and hdmi raw output? Stop trying to turn cameras into printers!
If you really want to innovate, integrate the shutter button with a fingerprint reader and add password protection so cameras can stop being high value targets for theft.

 

[Canon Rumors]

I understand that the new 6P battery may be requires for high fps shooting and some 8k modes, but selection of fine image quality, preshooting, and hdmi raw output? Stop trying to turn cameras into printers!
If you really want to innovate, integrate the shutter button with a fingerprint reader and add password protection so cameras can stop being high value targets for theft.

Well, it's off topic a bit, but a fingerprint scanner would do nothing to prevent theft, the lens attached to the camera still has value, as well as all of the other goodies inside your bag. Smartphones still get stolen in large numbers (and it's increasing in a lot of places) with all sorts of new and interesting techniques to make it worthwhile (it can be insanely lucrative with 2FA banking/transfer app access).

 

[mxwphoto]

Well, it's off topic a bit, but a fingerprint scanner would do nothing to prevent theft, the lens attached to the camera still has value, as well as all of the other goodies inside your bag. Smartphones still get stolen in large numbers (and it's increasing in a lot of places) with all sorts of new and interesting techniques to make it worthwhile (it can be insanely lucrative with 2FA banking/transfer app access).

True enough, lenses in a bag often eclipse camera value. What we truly need is a safe society. I purposefully do not go with my camera to SF as the risk just doesn't seem worth it.

 

[Canon Rumors]

True enough, lenses in a bag often eclipse camera value. What we truly need is a safe society. I purposefully do not go with my camera to SF as the risk just doesn't seem worth it.

Insurance is the best protection for theft (too many learn the hard way or don't understand the policies they do have). It doesn't help with images that may be on the cards that weren't send to a device though. A friend of mine has a "Can you please send a WeTransfer of the images on the memory card to <email address>" on the bottom of his cameras. No theft yet, but a funny idea.

 

[sanj]

Third party will soon enough figure out how to make batteries that will work on R52. Soon enough...

 

[Canon Rumors]

Third party will soon enough figure out how to make batteries that will work on R52. Soon enough...

I don't know, if Canon has actively done this, they probably have it set up to either prevent it with serious encryption or the ability to nuke it in firmware. I don't think a lot of people would buy a third-party battery without knowing how it all works.

I'll ask SmallRig if they have anything they can share on the topic.

 

[SnowMiku]

Next generation: Internal non replaceable batteries for entry level and mid range bodies for planned obsolescence.

 

[koenkooi]

This makes me happy that 3 of the 4 spare LP-E6NHs I have are Canon branded, the other one is a smallrig one with a USB-C socket.
Looks like my trusty old 7D will start using that smallrig battery

I really love the convenience of not having to use a charger, everything accepts USB-C PD! In that respect, the EL-5 I’m considering is a huge step backwards: custom batteries, no USB-C option

 

[Zadak]

I understand that the new 6P battery may be requires for high fps shooting and some 8k modes, but selection of fine image quality, preshooting, and hdmi raw output? Stop trying to turn cameras into printers!
If you really want to innovate, integrate the shutter button with a fingerprint reader and add password protection so cameras can stop being high value targets for theft.

I would love the ABILITY to have this. This is why I am tired of bringing it up, some people always scream and shout how it is impractical, etc. For me it wouldn't be, but my opinion doesn't matter. Also, why try innovate, just mock anyone trying to mention security instead of trying something.

It doesn't need to be an "authenticate for every shot" kind of thing, but maybe a daily/weekly thing. This should be enough.

But nooooo

 

[SnowMiku]

I would love the ABILITY to have this. This is why I am tired of bringing it up, some people always scream and shout how it is impractical, etc. For me it wouldn't be, but my opinion doesn't matter. Also, why try innovate, just mock anyone trying to mention security instead of trying something.

It doesn't need to be an "authenticate for every shot" kind of thing, but maybe a daily/weekly thing. This should be enough.

But nooooo

They could even have security options off by default out of the box, and have a setting to enter a pin every time you turn the physical switch on and some other options to keep everyone happy.

 

[photophil]

I use three LP-E6NH with USB-C ports. Highly practical when traveling, I just plug empty batteries into a power bank in my backpack.
This will greatly help with GAS if the R6III turns out to be OEM batteries only too

 

[Canon Rumors]

This makes me happy that 3 of the 4 spare LP-E6NHs I have are Canon branded, the other one is a smallrig one with a USB-C socket.
Looks like my trusty old 7D will start using that smallrig battery

I really love the convenience of not having to use a charger, everything accepts USB-C PD! In that respect, the EL-5 I’m considering is a huge step backwards: custom batteries, no USB-C option

I never travel with chargers. I use a ugreen 160w brick and cables. Charge my phone, laptop and camera at the same time. I think I have converted some R3 shooters to the same method, as that charger is enormous and charges at pretty much the same slow speed as the USB-C port. Most of the shooting we do doesn't require a battery swap... A morning session and an evening session in the good light.

Mongolia I had to use a second battery once, it was so cold... Even the lcd on the R3 froze.

Obviously my use case will differ from others.

 

[m4ndr4ke]

Third party will soon enough figure out how to make batteries that will work on R52. Soon enough...

I agree. The current third party LP-E6N/NH third party batteries are already detected as genuine Canon batteries, so I believe it will be just a matter of time until they figure it out.

 

[Pete Roberts]

JUST ANOTHER REASON TO SWITCH TO SONY!!!!! HAHAHAHAH

Just kidding. I have never used 3rd party batteries and never will. Spending $5k AUD on an R5II + cooling grip and then skimping on extra batteries doesn\'t make sense to me.

 

[Canon Rumors]

JUST ANOTHER REASON TO SWITCH TO SONY!!!!! HAHAHAHAH

Just kidding. I have never used 3rd party batteries and never will. Spending $5k AUD on an R5II + cooling grip and then skimping on extra batteries doesn\'t make sense to me.

I've always had a 1/3 series... I don't think there are any third party batteries, but I have never really looked either.

 

[Canon Rumors]

I agree. The current third party LP-E6N/NH third party batteries are already detected as genuine Canon batteries, so I believe it will be just a matter of time until they figure it out.

Well, this is a new thing (though Richard thought one of the 5 series DSLRs had a similar issue) The motivation may also be to combat counterfeiting, which Canon is very vocal about.

We know Canon hates third party batteries!

They might have done something new in the camera and will be able to maintain control. I'm ignorant as to whether other LP-E6 cameras have had battery dependant features.

Or it's just a random thing and Canon didn't consider it at all. It'll be interesting to hear back from some of the manufacturers.

 

[jam05]

The new batteries meet the high amperage requirement. Nothing complicated. Its a battery. Same as any other electronic device PS requirement. The PS circuit detets the correct amperage. Just like any other high amperage device. Canon\'s support page states that the lithium ion battery is a high amperage type.