The Canon EOS R5 Mark II will not function with third-party batteries

It depends on your usage. If you talk MTBs and go uphill steep the 105Nm will be fantastic. If you use your bike for trekking the 85Nm serve you very well. But thats really OT now.
I live in just about the flattest place in the world and 60Nm are fortunately more than enough for my old legs to keep up now with the youngsters. They no longer overtake me on the inside and threaten to push me into oncoming traffic.
 
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I do think for most R52 shooters, the LP-E6n/nh batteries would probably only ever been used in power emergencies with the reduction of features.

That's obviously painful for the people that are loaded up on them.

Again, Canon better be able to make enough of them from the start. I'm not sure how long it takes to develop a battery, but things in China seem to happen fairly quickly.

I will get advanced knowledge once things are figured out from one of the companies I have spoken with.
i have very rarely used my 5D4/5D2 batteries in my R5, they dont last very long. The extra power provided by the R5 cells makes for fewer cells to carry in my pockets. So, for me, it is nice in theory that i could have just used my old cells in my new camera but in practice doesnt move the needle much. Anyways my daughter is using the 5D2 batteries in the 5D2 and my wife is using the 5D4 batteries in the 5D4. I wonder though how fast R52 will go through these high current batteries. I needed 4 batteries for a day of shooting tennis with the R5, will I need 8 for the R52?
 
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Although this may upset most, you must understand if the 3rd party batteries end up having any issues because the camera is trying to draw power for specific features like 8k60 the batteries can implode. People can get hurt. At least those are my thoughts. We will see what is to come. I myself don't have the R5ii but will want to see if these batteries will work in the R5C for 8K60 without the need of an external battery anymore. Or at the very least have better battery life.
 
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i have very rarely used my 5D4/5D2 batteries in my R5, they dont last very long. The extra power provided by the R5 cells makes for fewer cells to carry in my pockets. So, for me, it is nice in theory that i could have just used my old cells in my new camera but in practice doesnt move the needle much. Anyways my daughter is using the 5D2 batteries in the 5D2 and my wife is using the 5D4 batteries in the 5D4. I wonder though how fast R52 will go through these high current batteries. I needed 4 batteries for a day of shooting tennis with the R5, will I need 8 for the R52?

I can't wait to see how it goes. I'm also thinking batteries and the cooling fan grip...... I haven't seen anyone comment yet, but I'm sure it's a variable speed fan.
 
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I get the backward compatibility niceties of the LP-E6 form factor but it isn't the best design IMHO.

Using CR18650 batteries (15mm longer but still 18mm diameter) would give a huge increase in capacity. Currently (pun intended) the circuitry of the Canon battery is on the end of the batteries but if it could be on the side/between the batteries (like the NP-FZ100) with electrical contacts there) then it would improve a lot of the current constraints.

maybe I should work for Canon :)
The E19 uses 3 CR18650's.
 
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To put the the price of the LP-E6P into perspective, last week in Shanghai I saw the horde of small e-bikes/e-scooters used for regular commuting. These apparently retail at $320 for the bike with batteries (please correct me if price wrong), for the latest models that have to have higher safety standards.
I'm not sure of the current price but after visiting again vs when I lived there many year ago, the biggest difference was the electric buses and scooters vs petrol powered. Made a huge change in emissions and noise and the consumer cost to changeover would have been hard. Unfortunately, you now can't hear the scooter before it hits you.
 
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JUST ANOTHER REASON TO SWITCH TO SONY!!!!! HAHAHAHAH

Get off the sinking Canon ship while you can!
I have never used 3rd party batteries and never will.
I got burned once with 3rd party batteries for cordless power tools. I know there are good ones, but the only real way to find out if they suck is to buy them.

Never again.
 
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I get the backward compatibility niceties of the LP-E6 form factor but it isn't the best design IMHO.

Using CR18650 batteries (15mm longer but still 18mm diameter) would give a huge increase in capacity. Currently (pun intended) the circuitry of the Canon battery is on the end of the batteries but if it could be on the side/between the batteries (like the NP-FZ100) with electrical contacts there) then it would improve a lot of the current constraints.

maybe I should work for Canon :)
Soo.... you're telling us that you'll join Canon to make sure the R5 III has yet another battery type? But this time with different contacts/form factor to make sure there is no backwards compaitility???? :p
 
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Soo.... you're telling us that you'll join Canon to make sure the R5 III has yet another battery type? But this time with different contacts/form factor to make sure there is no backwards compaitility???? :p
There would be no backward compatibility unless 2 sets of electrical connectors are in the new body for old/new batteries which would be pretty clever engineering. Canon can pay me for the idea... not me as an employee.

Backward compatibility now has a lot of ** so R5ii buyers with NH batteries (like myself) would buy quickly realise if the ** are important to them or not and then try to find them amongst the shortages. It was the same issue with the R5 and N batteries

I believe that Canon has 3 battery form factors now. Not sure if that is too many for you. The E19 is strange that Canon hasn't upped the capacity over time.
LP-E6 has had 4 upgrades over time whereas perhaps the pain of one major change/improvement would have offset the myriad we have today. Sony's battery hasn't changed yet supports many iterations of bodies and all their features.

It is a little like using SD cards... yes they are backward compatible and very useful for offloading images in my case but those using USH-I cards soon realise how they hobble the frame rate and then realise that CF-e cards are basically cheaper than fast USH-II cards.
 
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PetaPixel has been in contact with Canon, Canon is not blocking use of third part batteries:
“As for Canon’s side, PetaPixel contacted the company to ask if it had implemented any battery restrictions in the Canon EOS R5 Mark II or if there was any requirement to use official first-party Canon batteries in the R5 II.

“There is no such requirement,” Canon tells PetaPixel over email.”

See: https://petapixel.com/2024/08/13/canon-says-its-not-blocking-third-party-batteries-in-the-r5-ii/
 
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Irrespective of batteries... R5 has higher dynamic range than R5ii at low ISO as per Bill.
ISO400 is better avoided vs higher/lower for the R5ii.
ES looks to be a bit better at low ISO
Minimal difference after ISO800 and probably due to slightly baked raw on R5
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The R5 does not have baked RAW above iso 800. It’s the other way round, the R5ii does. Bill Claff indicates this by having downward pointing triangles for noise reduction being applied. The R5ii has the triangles throughout the whole range, the old R5 only at low iso.
 
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The R5 does not have baked RAW above iso 800. It’s the other way round, the R5ii does. Bill Claff indicates this by having downward pointing triangles for noise reduction being applied. The R5ii has the triangles throughout the whole range, the old R5 only at low iso.
Bill also admitted he doesn’t have an objective standard for when to call it NR or not. Someone pointed out that other brands also have a non-flat curve and Bill states he uses his gut for deciding one way or the other.

So the lack of a triangle doesn’t mean there’s no NR or cooking going on, just that it didn’t cross an ill-defined threshold.
 
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Bill also admitted he doesn’t have an objective standard for when to call it NR or not. Someone pointed out that other brands also have a non-flat curve and Bill states he uses his gut for deciding one way or the other.

So the lack of a triangle doesn’t mean there’s no NR or cooking going on, just that it didn’t cross an ill-defined threshold.
The post which I had replied to, claimed that the R5 had cooked raw, namely:

"ES looks to be a bit better at low ISO
Minimal difference after ISO800 and probably due to slightly baked raw on R5
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The poster has retrospectively edited his post to remove those lines.

The presence of a triangle does mean it has crossed that boundary, as it does for the R5ii, but there is no evidence that R5 has crossed it, contrary to what was asserted and now edited out.
 
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I just checked my Pre orders status and the 3 LP6-EP batteries that were BACK ORDER (25 July) are now NEW ORDER. I think the EPs are now arriving at the merchants. Delivery date is Aug 20 still. The Spare KE eye cup is still on back order.


Progress!
 
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Don’t know what’s happening with Canon… lacklustre product launches and now actively restricting products to their batteries. Have used 3rd party batteries in my R since day one. For the price can get half a dozen for the price of one Canon one. Found they last just as long as OEM ones for fraction of the price. Turning cameras in to mobile phones is not the way forward it’s going backwards and makes them less useable.
 
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