Canon will soon announce the Canon EOS R8 and Canon EOS R50 along with two new kit lenses

[Bahrd]

The name suggests it will be like the M50. Same for the rumored price of around $650.

It does, but... neither R5 nor R6 can be re-used anyway.

 

[blackcoffee17]

It does, but... neither R5 nor R6 can be re-used anyway.

Not sure what you mean. For $650 you cannot think it will be anything like the R5 or R6.

 

[Docofthewild]

Not sure what you mean. For $650 you don't think it will be anything like the R5 or R6.

Took me a second but I think he was referring to the fact that it could be more like a M5 or M6 than a M50 but they couldn’t have R equivalent names for the prior two. Still just a guess though‍

 

[Jayk0607]

On one hand, there are various jerks on this forum, and more sarcasm than is really necessary.
On the other hand, there are professional photographers with careers of 40+ years and collections of 40+ lenses.

Do you really the EF-S 55-250 is better than (for example) an RF 70-200 f/2.8L ?
Do you have the experience to support your claim ?

Better IQ? No. Better portability? Yes.

 

[kmrahe]

So what is the possibility that the R50 will be more of an M6 successor than an M50 successor, meaning no EVF?

 

[neuroanatomist]

So what is the possibility that the R50 will be more of an M6 successor than an M50 successor, meaning no EVF?

Very, very low. Note that I’m saying that because it’s what I’d prefer, and I’m pessimistic that way.

 

[Jethro]

So what is the possibility that the R50 will be more of an M6 successor than an M50 successor, meaning no EVF?

That would make it the first Canon FF with no EVF - which sounds unlikely. But I may also be speculating with my own preference in mind ...

 

[neuroanatomist]

That would make it the first Canon FF with no EVF - which sounds unlikely. But I may also be speculating with my own preference in mind ...

Not R8, R50. The R50 is supposed to be APS-C. At $680, it very well might omit the EVF, especially if it’s aimed at vlogging (consistent with a CP+ announcement).

 

[Jethro]

Not R8, R50. The R50 is supposed to be APS-C. At $680, it very well might omit the EVF, especially if it’s aimed at vlogging (consistent with a CP+ announcement).

Ah, ding yes - the R50!

 

[ghalib737]

On one hand, there are various jerks on this forum, and more sarcasm than is really necessary.
On the other hand, there are professional photographers with careers of 40+ years and collections of 40+ lenses.

Do you really the EF-S 55-250 is better than (for example) an RF 70-200 f/2.8L ?
Do you have the experience to support your claim ?

An M50 user --- can go up to 55-250mm considering his/her budget. You have to read first massage before calling anyone a jerk.
55-250mm is one of the best-selling lenses within the budget lens.

There are two types of users ----

One is jerks like me
and
others are millionaires or experts like someone

 

[davidespinosa]

One is jerks like me

I actually wasn't thinking of you !

 

[Bahrd]

Not sure what you mean. For $650 you cannot think it will be anything like the R5 or R6.

As @Docofthewild pointed out - I should have written something like: "neither name, R5 nor R6, can be re-used", but wanted to be too laconic. But I agree, the Canon's naming convention isn't something one would learn a consistency from.

 

[jam05]

Until they release more small faster lenses it will be a very long time before the M6 mk 2 is replaced. These f4 and f5 lenses just won't cut it.

That would make it the first Canon FF with no EVF - which sounds unlikely. But I may also be speculating with my own preference in mind ...

Then Its not an M6 replacement. The evf with its hump is a non starter for many M6 owners.

 

[koenkooi]

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Then Its not an M6 replacement. The evf with its hump is a non starter for many M6 owners.

That’s how I feel. Include a proper EVF or leave it out. Don’t include a token EVF like the M50 has, it’s nigh unusable and only increases the size and price.

 

[kmrahe]

That’s how I feel. Include a proper EVF or leave it out. Don’t include a token EVF like the M50 has, it’s nigh unusable and only increases the size and price.

What does a "proper" EVF have that the M50's doesn't?

 

[jam05]

The problem that Canon currently has in trying to marry the R mount to the M50/M6 user base it the expensive and limited lens offerings. R mount lenses are just too damn expensive for this series. $700 camera and $2000 lens?

 

[neuroanatomist]

The problem that Canon currently has in trying to marry the R mount to the M50/M6 user base it the expensive and limited lens offerings. R mount lenses are just too damn expensive for this series. $700 camera and $2000 lens?

You need to take a closer look at the RF lineup. The only thing really missing is a UWA zoom like the M11-22.

 

[kmrahe]

You need to take a closer look at the RF lineup. The only thing really missing is a UWA zoom like the M11-22.

I agree. I currently find 5 Canon lenses each for RF and EF-M for under $400, all IS except the widest one for each mount. The biggest difference is that the RF lenses are going to tend to be much larger, as only one is an RF-S. I have a fairly small camera case that fits three of my EF-M lenses plus a nifty-fifty and adapter. I would have to drop at least one and maybe two of those and/or some other accessories (macro tubes, filters, tabletop tripod, lens cleaning supplies, etc.) if I had to replace them with RF lenses.

 

[koenkooi]

What does a "proper" EVF have that the M50's doesn't?

Better optics. The EVF on the RP uses the same display as the M50, but the optics make it massively better. With the RP the image doesn’t distort like a funhouse mirror when viewing slightly off-axis.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

You need to take a closer look at the RF lineup. The only thing really missing is a UWA zoom like the M11-22.

I 100% agree but that is a big thing missing.
Off course we could always adapt the EF-S 10-18 but I am more understanding of the reluctance of adapting lenses on these smaller cameras.
I still think the first thing anyone should buy for the R system is an EF to RF adapter.