Canon teases Canon EOS R8 and Canon EOS R50 announcement happening this week

[koenkooi]

The price of 1799 Euros for the R8 is even higher than I feared. That is TWICE as expensive as the RP, which is available for 899 Euros. 1799 is much too expensive for a crippled down "amateur camera".

I bought my RP for €1249 minus €100 cashback in 2019, so the €1819 for the R8 over here is 'only' a 50% markup instead of a 100% markup. I wish Canon would've kept the R8 at the RP price, but for an R6II (€2929) in an RP body, €1819 isn't outrageous.

Since the R50 is a solid no for me, due to the lack of a remote port and a space wasting token EVF, the R8 is actually very attractive as a 2nd body to my R5. I really enjoyed the form factor of my RP but after getting the M6II it really showed how slow and clunky the AF experience was, so I traded it in when I managed to get hold of an R5.

I pre-ordered the R8, so I have 3 months to decide if I actually want it or not.

 

[neuroanatomist]

I am guessing that the footprint of the R8 is identical to the RP and that the grip extension will fit both cameras .

Yes, that’s correct. So most likely the RP L-plate will fit. Too bad RRS discontinued theirs.

 

[cary]

I am guessing that the footprint of the R8 is identical to the RP and that the grip extension will fit both cameras . I read somewhere an interview with the design team of the RP and a lot of thought and work had gone onto that design. It feels so good in the hand (with grip) I think it would be a shame to change it.

Yes. Jared Polin confirmed same grip extension can be used on the R8.

 

[Deleted member 393686]

Canon will announce a bunch of products on February 8, 2023. In North America, the announcements will happen at 10AM EST on Wednesday, February 8, 2023. The following gear will be announced. Canon EOS R8 Canon EOS R50 Canon RF 24-50mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Canon RF-S 55-210mm f/5-7.1 IS STM

See full article...

Now to pre order in Holland! Deliverable March.

 

[Sporgon]

Yes. Jared Polin confirmed same grip extension can be used on the
R8.

Hey I got something right after 10 years of being wrong on CR !!

 

[SteveC]

Honestly, it matters less now than it used to. Even with the M-series cameras, I rarely need the spare battery I carry. With the R3, I don’t even carry my spare when traveling. The difference with recent bodies used while traveling (and one reason I bought the M6II even though I had the M6) is USB-C charging of the onboard battery. That means the a USB-C multiport charger that charges tge iPhones we have with us also charge the camera batteries overnight, as does the single large brick for my 16” Mac.

Essentially, if three bodies use the same battery, I only need one spare for all three. I'm unlikely to carry all three or even two of them at once, but at least I only need to keep money (minimal as it is) tied up in one spare. (And if I take thousands of pictures, then more spares, but at least I don't need three times as many to cover all cameras.) I just have to be sure it's in the same bag as the camera(s) I am taking. And yes, I do occasionally need to swap batteries.

 

[ryanbird]

Any of you also think the design of canon camera is terrible?

like fuji or sony, their camera is in a much cooler shape while canon is still old fashion alike camera, whole feel is so bulky and stupid.

 

[Longtermer]

Any of you also think the design of canon camera is terrible?

like fuji or sony, their camera is in a much cooler shape while canon is still old fashion alike camera, whole feel is so bulky and stupid.

I far prefer the design / grip / layout of Canon FF bodies compared to Sony. I don't have any experience (or particular opinion) on Fuji. The Canon form factor doesn't change much (which of itself seems to offend some people) largely because it works very well, and Canon's very large user base love it, and generally complain if anything much changes. Size (and weight) varies quite a bit between the different bodies - including within the R range, so there is some choice.

I guess 'terrible', 'cool' and 'stupid' are concepts which largely depend on the subjective taste of the observer.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Any of you also think the design of canon camera is terrible?

like fuji or sony, their camera is in a much cooler shape while canon is still old fashion alike camera, whole feel is so bulky and stupid.

Here are some pictures I took in Switzerland and Germany with old-fashioned, bulky and stupid-looking Canon cameras. Some were taken with tilt-shift lenses that those much cooler-looking brands, Sony and Fuji, don’t offer (although apparently Fuji plans to finally make some for their MF line).



Local lore suggests none of these bridges have occupants living under them, so if you ever decide to leave your mom's basement you won't have to fight other trolls for a place to live.

 

[ryanbird]

Here are some pictures I took in Switzerland and Germany with old-fashioned, bulky and stupid-looking Canon cameras. Some were taken with tilt-shift lenses that those much cooler-looking brands, Sony and Fuji, don’t offer (although apparently Fuji plans to finally make some for their MF line).

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Local lore suggests none of these bridges have occupants living under them, so if you ever decide to leave your mom's basement you won't have to fight other trolls for a place to live.

i live on my own with my house fully funded by myself. my opinion was merely towards the old fashioned design of canon's camera. This is obviously subjective yet you take it personal, i feel you might need to consider the place above to get over your mom's basement instead.

 

[SteveC]

i live on my own with my house fully funded by myself. my opinion was merely towards the old fashioned design of canon's camera. This is obviously subjective yet you take it personal, i feel you might need to consider the place above to get over your mom's basement instead.

Both you and he have a point.

I like the looks of Fuji cameras and Canon's look like blobs...so you have a point there.

But looks don't translate to usability, and the Canon fits most peoples' hands well. And I am not taking pictures of the camera, I'm taking pictures with it.

And that's fundamentally Neuroanatomist's point: If you're fixating on what the camera looks like, you're missing the point of owning a camera.

 

[nunataks]

Both you and he have a point.

I like the looks of Fuji cameras and Canon's look like blobs...so you have a point there.

But looks don't translate to usability, and the Canon fits most peoples' hands well. And I am not taking pictures of the camera, I'm taking pictures with it.

And that's fundamentally Neuroanatomist's point: If you're fixating on what the camera looks like, you're missing the point of owning a camera.

Untrue, aesthetics are equally important for inspiration or Fuji wouldn't be rising to #3 in sales (soon to overtake Nikon).

 

[neuroanatomist]

Both you and he have a point.
I like the looks of Fuji cameras and Canon's look like blobs...so you have a point there.

Fuji does make some aesthetically pleasing models, other less so. But Sony? Angular boxes with bumps.

But looks don't translate to usability, and the Canon fits most peoples' hands well. And I am not taking pictures of the camera, I'm taking pictures with it.

And that's fundamentally Neuroanatomist's point: If you're fixating on what the camera looks like, you're missing the point of owning a camera.

That's really the point. Honestly, who cares how a camera looks? Well, maybe the people who bought one of the 24K gold-plated Nikon Df mods:


But seriously, as you say I really don't see the point of how a camera looks. What matters is how it functions.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Untrue, aesthetics are equally important for inspiration or Fuji wouldn't be rising to #3 in sales (soon to overtake Nikon).

Fuji is still sitting at ~5% of the camera market. They didn't even gain 1% from 2020 to 2021. They're gaining on Nikon only because Nikon's share is plummeting. What makes you think aesthetics are the main driver for Fuji's very modest increase, anyway?

 

[AlanF]

I far prefer the design / grip / layout of Canon FF bodies compared to Sony. I don't have any experience (or particular opinion) on Fuji. The Canon form factor doesn't change much (which of itself seems to offend some people) largely because it works very well, and Canon's very large user base love it, and generally complain if anything much changes. Size (and weight) varies quite a bit between the different bodies - including within the R range, so there is some choice.

I guess 'terrible', 'cool' and 'stupid' are concepts which largely depend on the subjective taste of the observer.

"Stupid" can be objectively applied to describe some posts.

 

[neuroanatomist]

A nice looking camera might be a reason to pick it up more often rather than leaving it at home.

Honest question – why? I mean, would you put on a $1,000 pair of Hermès sneakers to go out and take pictures? I guess there are people who care much more about being seen taking pictures than actually taking them. Whatever floats your boat.

 

[unfocused]

Well, I guess in the post-announcement doldrums we have to have something to post about.

I do admit to being susceptible to nice designs. I think anyone with an appreciation for art probably does. I did like the looks of the Nikon retro DSLR and the original Fuji Pro cameras, not enough to buy either one, but I did like their looks. I think the Canon R cameras are nice looking, although I really hate the looks of the new RF-S lenses. Canon is definitely trying to put a load of lipstick on those pigs and it's not working.

 

[Sporgon]

I would not, but maybe someone else would.

And quite frankly the Nikons and Canons and Sonys etc are not that different in price and features. Might aswell pick one which you like looking at.

I had a Nikon EM and FE. While the FE was the better camera, I preferred the look of the EM. So it was the one I used more.

How a camera looks shouldn't really matter, certainly not compared with ergonomics, AF, IQ etc. However I do think that Nikon shot themselves in the foot with their DSLR designs, which appeared ugly and clunky compared with Canon's. I have no facts to back this up, other than that their very capable and competitively priced cameras suffered against Canon, and later Sony. Also it took them over a decade to realise that most customers don't want a small, plastic pop up flash on an expensive, rugged FF camera. I appreciate that this post may stir up the five people who liked that feature, but it looks like the D500, D850 and D780 were better received without it.

 

[neuroanatomist]

I had a Nikon EM and FE. While the FE was the better camera, I preferred the look of the EM. So it was the one I used more.

Interesting. Before I go out to take pictures, the questions I ask are:

• What will I be taking pictures of?
• Are there any constraints on what I can bring (e.g., venue restrictions, need to shoot in the rain, etc.)?
• What camera and lens(es) will best enable to capture images of the subjects (within those constraints, if any)?
• Which of my many bags/cases will best fit that camera + lens(es) and anything else I must put in the bag, leaving at little empty space as possible?

What the camera or bag look like is completely irrelevant.

Just for you, though...apparently, the Leica Q2 'Ghost' is the ultimate hipster camera. It could have been yours or mine for a mere $6,000, but sadly it seems the real hipsters got there first. It means I'll never look like this when I'm out taking pictures. I'll have to live with that, I guess.

 

[Sporgon]

I'm curious about the 24 grams weight saving on the R8 compared with the RP, only because of where it has been saved rather than any impact on the camera.
I noticed that the R6II is 10 grams lighter than the R6. Both the R6II & R8 use a plastic control wheel on the top left of the camera (to control stills / video) whereas the R6 & RP had a metal one (to switch on / off). So I can see that there might be 10 grams or so saving there. I presume that the remaining weight saved must be from somewhere inside the R8.
Judging by the same weight I'd assume that the R6 & R6II are of similar quality construction. Those that have had both the R6 & RP say that the construction of the two cameras is basically identical, yet now I am reading that "the construction of the R8 isn't as good as the R6II". I guess this is internet nonsense.
Of those that have both the R6 & R6II would you say that they both feel identical in the construction ?