Moaning whenever you actuate them...With 2 touchbars to make it even more awesome!
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Moaning whenever you actuate them...With 2 touchbars to make it even more awesome!
I think this is a great analysis. Don't you think in practice the FX6 is more comparable to the C70, and especially the C80, as compared to the C400? As a C70 owner that's my take, and when considering my next camera it would be between an FX6 II (if it ever appears) and a C80.This is my initial thought also.. Canon’s own FX3. I also think the “C” stands for Cinema =)
This will be the smallest Cinema Line camera, and the C80 will be its big brother. It will replace the R5C, so it removes association to the R5 series and have a life of its own. It’ll take photos, but with no EVF (a la FX3) and it will probably dual boot like the R5C did.. to bridge the gap again of Cinema and Photo. In my opinion, the R5C was a great experiment but didn’t do so much to differentiate itself from the R5 (visibly to the casual consumers). The people who left Canon for Sony FX3’s video focused body wanted something as compact from Canon as the FX3, and to me this is their answer. I think it’ll be Full Frame, it’ll be based on the R5ii sensor, and will be ahead of the FX3 and FX3ii in that it’ll shoot 8k like the R5 series with built in raw. I don’t see them rolling with a 4k based video, as the C70/C80 fill that gap, and it won’t have built in XLR’s, NDs, etc so it doesn’t compete with them either. It’ll be a mini R5ii, with fan and no evf, with full size hdmi, timecode, and 3.5 mic inputs. Hopefully they do release an XLR handle/cage like setup or make it easy for 3rd party smallrig type companies to make one.
In Order -> RC -> C70 -> C80 -> C300 -> C400 -> C500
Compared to Sony:
Canon RC = FX3
Canon C400 = FX6
Canon C500 = FX9
Canon C70/C80 = No direct Sony competitor.
Your point 1 to 3 is the reason I ditched Sony ZV-E10 and never consider the a6xxx & a7Cx line up.Because:
1: when i'm out in nature, I never wear glasses. I couldn't see what's on the LCD
2: in bright (or less bright) sunshine, one doesn't see much on the LCD
3: lack of stability when using the LCD
4: larger size when using the EVF so you can see details
I once bought a 4/3 Olympus. It didn't take me a week to order the accessory EVF. Rolleiflex 6X6 times are over for me. (And the Rolleiflex even had a loupe...)
Rendering? If you mean the background picture for the article post, that’s a picture of the M6II not a rendering of anything.Neiro,
Wait for something else... Indeed, I probably would. The rendering looks kind of small and unfeatured... But that's all It is a rendering.
So rumors and speculation aside, we'll see.
I think my interest in a smaller camera would be as a backup in the event of camera failure for my main body 9 times out of 10. Since I do everything on a tripod, I'd be fine with/without a viewfinder. The key things I'd want in that body would be to use the same battery/cards as my main camera (an R5 mark ii), be very compact to minimize the penalty for bringing a backup, and reasonably priced. I suspect I wouldn't even use it except for in a pinch, or in family travel with a smaller lens setup. The R8 nearly fills that bill except for the battery - I don't want to carry a second set of batteries in case my main camera fails. If the R8 took an LP-e6 series, I'd be in.For people who want a small camera with EVF, what's wrong with the R10 or R8 ?
OK!I think my interest in a smaller camera would be as a backup in the event of camera failure for my main body 9 times out of 10. Since I do everything on a tripod, I'd be fine with/without a viewfinder. The key things I'd want in that body would be to use the same battery/cards as my main camera (an R5 mark ii), be very compact to minimize the penalty for bringing a backup, and reasonably priced. I suspect I wouldn't even use it except for in a pinch, or in family travel with a smaller lens setup. The R8 nearly fills that bill except for the battery - I don't want to carry a second set of batteries in case my main camera fails. If the R8 took an LP-e6 series, I'd be in.
Maybe not a lot smaller truthfully, but the LP-E6 only fits in those bodies and not the R8 because they have a larger grip. I'd take an R8 with a grip big enough for an LP-E6 but a reduction in size in height and width. With that said, it's not a major priority for me, and I solve this problem in a much less size-efficient way right now: using my old 5DIV as a backup instead. Not at all size conscious, but it does take the same battery style (kinda), and it is cheap (because I already own it). I just don't bring a backup when size really matters, which is not ideal, and I don't have a smaller travel camera (which is not a huge deal breaker for me).Not sure if you can get much more compact than the R5/R6/R7 while keeping the LP-E6 batteries
That's interesting timing on that note - I saw this article on Petapixel today noting that some SanDisk cards appear not to be fully compatible with the R5ii? Pretty sure I own some of the affected cards, so I'm happy to have a second slot in case that ends up being an issue. With that said, if I was using this hypothetical camera as exclusively a backup for my primary, I'd probably be ok with one slot, with the right price point. Another level of risk redundency is great, but I have to ask at what cost it becomes necessary. In this hypothetical scenario, I wouldn't even be using that camera unless I first had a failure in my other camera, which does have two slots as it is. If I have some failure in camera one, what are the odds that a card failure would also take camera two out of the equation at the same time? It just seems like overkill at that point.OK!
Let me add one feature which has suddenly become important for me.
For the very first time, I had an SD card failure, fortunately with totally unimportant test-pictures. But now, even a backup camera must have 2 cards.
This is not the case with the R8, and I'm afraid a very compact FF could be missing a dual SD or SD/CF too. And will the battery also be an LP-E6?
I'd dislike, just like you, having 2 Canons with different batteries. Though, currently, I usually leave home for longer walks with 2 different systems. EOS and M (the real M, not the discontinued one) Yet, 2 Canons with 2 battery types? No!
It didn't occur when using the R5 II, but with the 5 D IV.That's interesting timing on that note - I saw this article on Petapixel today noting that some SanDisk cards appear not to be fully compatible with the R5ii? Pretty sure I own some of the affected cards, so I'm happy to have a second slot in case that ends up being an issue. With that said, if I was using this hypothetical camera as exclusively a backup for my primary, I'd probably be ok with one slot, with the right price point. Another level of risk redundency is great, but I have to ask at what cost it becomes necessary. In this hypothetical scenario, I wouldn't even be using that camera unless I first had a failure in my other camera, which does have two slots as it is. If I have some failure in camera one, what are the odds that a card failure would also take camera two out of the equation at the same time? It just seems like overkill at that point.
Yeah, no viewfinder = small and LP-E6 = big. So…nope.Viewfinder less R8 that accepts the LP-E6 battery.
That's what I want and that's what is not going to happen.
I'm not asking super small. Just make it the same size as a7cr.Yeah, no viewfinder = small and LP-E6 = big. So…nope.
Not too small. Not too big. And then Papa Bear ate Goldilocks. The end.I'm not asking super small. Just make it the same size as a7cr.
Probably doable if Canon wanted to. The A7CR takes the NP-FZ100 battery (52x39x23mm -- same battery that goes into their entire current lineup from the ZV-E10 and A6700 to the A1II and A9III) which is about the same volume and size as the LP-E6P battery (57x38x21mm).I'm not asking super small. Just make it the same size as a7cr.