in India and Europe we always knew these cameras with numbered model number so no nostalgia attached for us.
Except that KISS is exactly what the entry models were meant to do... keep it simple!Keep It Simple, Stupid (KISS)...dictates don't use the kiss branding. Or the Rebel branding.
Can call “fuzz”If the entry level cameras are "kiss", the better cameras would have to be called "f....".
It hasn't turned out to be a problem in practice but I think Canon actually had a mount called the RF in the 50s or 60s?Reusing names without any indicator to differentiate is just bad.
I haven't seen any mention of this in the discussion but I THINK the reasoning behind this was to discourage grey-market imports.Good riddance. It was absurd having three increasingly nonsensical name series for the same cameras.
Marketing.What was the point of having different brands / model names in different regions? Warranty or service or something else?
I THINK the reasoning behind this was to discourage grey-market imports.What was the point of having different brands / model names in different regions? Warranty or service or something else?
Marketing of the Kiss series in Japan has always been strongly focused on young women making snapshots of family and friends:As someone who lives in the USA, I have always found the "Kiss" branding in the Japanese market to be a bit strange. I won't miss the USA Rebel branding either.
So I guess it would stand to reason that a ‘Rebel Kiss’ is part of the lead-up to a ‘Hate F***’…Maybe Canon should have tried combining their name badges? Or not, since it's been done. Both as a product:
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...and as a concept. I believe I already referenced that ancient chronology from a very, very distant universal locale.
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Yeah, the names are doubtless targeting a perceived national psyche. In Japan, Thailand and other parts of the far east, the name "kiss" might invoke the notion of cuteness, well suited to the young female market. In the US, the name "rebel" could invoke feelings of adventurism. Canon must think Europeans are boring, and only interested in acronyms and numbers!Marketing of the Kiss series in Japan has always been strongly focused on young women making snapshots of family and friends:
https://cweb.canon.jp/eos/special/kisssp/
It's possible that Canon Japan decided to rethink their marketing focus. It's also possible that entry-level camera sales volumes have declined to the point where it no longer makes economic sense to split production into three different brandings of the same products. Those aren't mutually exclusive - they could both be true.
From a marketing standpoint, Japan and the US can be viewed as large (they and China are the largest single-country markets for cameras) and relatively homogenous (as in, they are single countries). Europe and the rest of the world are a mix of cultures that would likely require different targeted marketing approaches. Even though today the EU is a larger market than the US, when the Kiss and Rebel nameplates launched the EU hadn't yet been formed, and still the EU is far from a homogeneous market.Yeah, the names are doubtless targeting a perceived national psyche. In Japan, Thailand and other parts of the far east, the name "kiss" might invoke the notion of cuteness, well suited to the young female market. In the US, the name "rebel" could invoke feelings of adventurism. Canon must think Europeans are boring, and only interested in acronyms and numbers!
I think that the purpose of different names was initially to reduce grey marketing - an American male would I think definitely prefer to pay full whack for a "Rebel" rather than save a few dollars and have the humiliation of having "Kiss" plastered across the front of his camera. I agree that the non-homogenous nature of Europe could be a reason why acronyms are used instead of names. The *choice* of the actual names "Kiss" and "Rebel" was I think as I stated, i.e. based on perceptions of the national psyche of Japan and the US.From a marketing standpoint, Japan and the US can be viewed as large (they and China are the largest single-country markets for cameras) and relatively homogenous (as in, they are single countries). Europe and the rest of the world are a mix of cultures that would likely require different targeted marketing approaches. Even though today the EU is a larger market than the US, when the Kiss and Rebel nameplates launched the EU hadn't yet been formed, and still the EU is far from a homogeneous market.
IMO, the suggestion that these nameplates are intended to reduce gray marketing is reading too much into it. Kiss and Rebel were marketing terms.
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