Are we finally going to get f/2.8 constant aperture zoom lenses for APS-C/RF-S?

If it's constant aperture, the Canon can cost 30%-40% more than an equal third party and they'll sell more of them. The only lenses Sigma and Tamron sell a lot of are the slow wide range zooms.
That may be true for Tamron but I thought the most popular Sigma lens is their 24-70 f/2.8 Art. My guess is that the risk of incompatibility is the reason Sigma wouldn't make R mount lenses except under license. I'd love to know how much the licensing fee is. Would $50 to $100/lens be reasonable? I'd also like to know how much help Canon gave Sigma in developing the control & interface firmware. That's the part that could cause nightmares.
 
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They were quite troublesome in the DSLR days, we'll see how they are on RF.

I've enjoyed a couple of unique lenses that they've made. The 105mm f/1.4 ART is a lot of fun and really nice. I've also experienced lenses like the 150-600... not much fun at all.

I have saved some cash on fast primes that I have wanted in the past buying Sigma and Tamron, I really liked the Tamron 85 1.8 and it served me quite well in Rwanda. However they generally weren't lenses I'd use often so I was fine not buying the Canon. Now I'd just adapt EF lenses instead. Costs the same.... I don't use a fast 85mm often, but I grabbed an EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM for 1/3 the price of the RF 85 1.2.

Not sure why people are clamoring so much for FF Sigma lenses when there is a lineup of 100 EF lenses to save money on.
Yes, and since that experience when on DSLR, I stopped looking beyond Canon... also, the resale value is better for Canon lenses.... when I traded old lenses to fund new purchases....

I also got quite a few compact EF primes, like EF 35mm F2 IS, EF 24mm f2.8; EF 85mm F1.8 too before I got the F1.4L & sold it.... though 85mm F1.8 have weakness, I feel it is a photographer job to overcome that weaknesses.... and maximize the strength.... and adapted them to the R bodies without any issues at all....

I always feel you can adapt lenses to save money... so I do not know why they are complaining... maybe they are purist.... RF to RF.... lol.... :LOL:
 
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Yes, and since that experience when on DSLR, I stopped looking beyond Canon... also, the resale value is better for Canon lenses.... when I traded old lenses to fund new purchases....

I also got quite a few compact EF primes, like EF 35mm F2 IS, EF 24mm f2.8; EF 85mm F1.8 too before I got the F1.4L & sold it.... though 85mm F1.8 have weakness, I feel it is a photographer job to overcome that weaknesses.... and maximize the strength.... and adapted them to the R bodies without any issues at all....

I always feel you can adapt lenses to save money... so I do not know why they are complaining... maybe they are purist.... RF to RF.... lol.... :LOL:

I now have 3 adapted Canon LTM lenses (19mm f/3.5, 50mm f/1.2, 100mm f/2) from the 60's, real flare is much better than software flare. :geek:

I'm putting a few bucks away each month for the 50mm f/0.95. It'll take a lot of months.
 
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I now have 3 adapted Canon LTM lenses (19mm f/3.5, 50mm f/1.2, 100mm f/2) from the 60's, real flare is much better than software flare. :geek:

I'm putting a few bucks away each month for the 50mm f/0.95. It'll take a lot of months.

That's great!! You have your upgrade/purchase plan all planned out..

Mine is also planned out, but due to unforeseen events, it is messed up the next 2 years of my buying cycle... but it is ok... haha...
 
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People talk themselves out of buying the Canon equivalent.
Actually... the issue, based on my observation, seems to be they want a Ferrari for the price of a Suzuki???

Well, if a Suzuki is = to a Ferrari, then, just buy the Suzuki.... and no one will crave a Ferrari anymore....

Then, they will blame CANON for not making a Ferrari at a Suzuki price... and declare... CANON is DOOMED!!

We are each, too insignificant, to have any impact on the data that Canon uses for their Market Research and Pricing Strategy...

The result that Canon is doing well proved that they are doing it correctly... while I just feel that Canon are slowly releasing more unique lenses for RF and I am just rather excited.... but worried about the wallet getting lighter and lighter....
 
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Actually... the issue, based on my observation, seems to be they want a Ferrari for the price of a Suzuki???

Well, if a Suzuki is = to a Ferrari, then, just buy the Suzuki.... and no one will crave a Ferrari anymore....

Then, they will blame CANON for not making a Ferrari at a Suzuki price... and declare... CANON is DOOMED!!

We are each, too insignificant, to have any impact on the data that Canon uses for their Market Research and Pricing Strategy...

The result that Canon is doing well proved that they are doing it correctly... while I just feel that Canon are slowly releasing more unique lenses for RF and I am just rather excited.... but worried about the wallet getting lighter and lighter....

Yes, that's a big portion of consumerism now.

Though the Suzuki would probably be the tortoise in a 2000km race, between Ferrari breakdowns and fill-ups. :p
 
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Would love to see an 11-44mm f/4 or something along those lines. Even a 12-32mm f/4 would be welcome. If it’s a constant f/2.8, maybe a 13-26mm would be lovely. To differenciate from the sigma lens, add IS and weather sealing. It would be perfect for my R10 and a future R7 Mk. II. Please give us an ultrawide to normal zoom lens soon, I’m begging
 
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I'm buying a Fuji for my family Asian adventure this winter. Nothing wrong with APSC if it's done right. I just can't go m/3, even though those OM cameras are tanks.
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Those OM cameras are not only tanks, but nobody makes an APS-C camera that comes close to the OM-1, in my opinion. (I've owned FF, APS-C and M4/3rds camera since 2014). Their lenses are also top-notch. Despite being a Canon digital owner since 2004, with every Canon release since I bought my first Olympus m4/3 camera in 2014, I have wished it was close to being as good as whatever Olympus camera I had at the time. As a bird photographer, I'm still waiting for Canon (or anyone) to have in-camera focus limiting like my Olympus (now OM System) cameras have had for 8 years or so. That feature alone, makes it my bird camera of choice as you can effectively eliminate focus hunting. If you find nothing wrong with APS-C, then there is no reason not to try M4/3.
 
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Those OM cameras are not only tanks, but nobody makes an APS-C camera that comes close to the OM-1, in my opinion. (I've owned FF, APS-C and M4/3rds camera since 2014). Their lenses are also top-notch. Despite being a Canon digital owner since 2004, with every Canon release since I bought my first Olympus m4/3 camera in 2014, I have wished it was close to being as good as whatever Olympus camera I had at the time. As a bird photographer, I'm still waiting for Canon (or anyone) to have in-camera focus limiting like my Olympus (now OM System) cameras have had for 8 years or so. That feature alone, makes it my bird camera of choice as you can effectively eliminate focus hunting. If you find nothing wrong with APS-C, then there is no reason not to try M4/3.
Agree!
Olympus did a very fine job with cameras and lenses. If only they weren't too small for me, I'd certainly get an OM1 plus 7-14, 12-40 and 40-150 as a light travel kit. These lenses are almost perfect, especially the 12-40 f2,8 II.
If it weren't for my hands...(I even wish the R5 had a larger body).
 
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Those OM cameras are not only tanks, but nobody makes an APS-C camera that comes close to the OM-1, in my opinion. (I've owned FF, APS-C and M4/3rds camera since 2014). Their lenses are also top-notch. Despite being a Canon digital owner since 2004, with every Canon release since I bought my first Olympus m4/3 camera in 2014, I have wished it was close to being as good as whatever Olympus camera I had at the time. As a bird photographer, I'm still waiting for Canon (or anyone) to have in-camera focus limiting like my Olympus (now OM System) cameras have had for 8 years or so. That feature alone, makes it my bird camera of choice as you can effectively eliminate focus hunting. If you find nothing wrong with APS-C, then there is no reason not to try M4/3.
I almost bought an OM-1 and four lenses. Ultimately I went with inertia and bought an R7 instead. It seemed that buying into a second system would create as many problems as it solved. (I own about 20 EF lenses including six high speed primes and four TS-E lenses. I've been collecting EF lenses, mostly L, for 25 years,) The R7 is about the same size and weight as the OM-1 while the R10/R50/R100 are about the same size and weight as the OM-5 and seem too small. The problem with the Canon APS-C RF bodies has always been the lenses but the Sigma lenses seem to be "good enough". Sigma just needs to introduce a 50-135 f/2.8 DC DN C and maybe port their 70 macro to RF.
 
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Agree!
Olympus did a very fine job with cameras and lenses. If only they weren't too small for me, I'd certainly get an OM1 plus 7-14, 12-40 and 40-150 as a light travel kit. These lenses are almost perfect, especially the 12-40 f2,8 II.
If it weren't for my hands...(I even wish the R5 had a larger body).
Then you'd love my 5D3 and 5Ds. After using an R7 and R6-2, they feel I'm holding a brick, a heavy brick.
 
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Then you'd love my 5D3 and 5Ds. After using an R7 and R6-2, they feel I'm holding a brick, a heavy brick.
I do love my 5 DIV, yet, mirrorless cameras have far too many advantages.
Dream camera: R3, but my carrying system prevents the use of gripped cameras. I'm gonna make a basis plate for the R5 II, since I dislike "pinkies in the air". ;)
 
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I'm a little confused about the need for a longer focal length zoom for APS-C.
I thought that RF lenses would fill this need but would be larger/heavier/pricier than a dedicated APS-C lens due to the image circle coverage.

Do you really need f2.8 for a "walk around" kit? Those users needing f2.8 are more likely happy to pay a premium for those lenses IMHO.

If the rumour is for 2025 then it is possible that Sigma may make longer RF-S lenses available under license in that time frame.
 
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I'm a little confused about the need for a longer focal length zoom for APS-C.
I thought that RF lenses would fill this need but would be larger/heavier/pricier than a dedicated APS-C lens due to the image circle coverage.

Do you really need f2.8 for a "walk around" kit? Those users needing f2.8 are more likely happy to pay a premium for those lenses IMHO.

If the rumour is for 2025 then it is possible that Sigma may make longer RF-S lenses available under license in that time frame.
The addition of longer Sigma RF-S lenses is more a wish than a prediction. Certainly, a Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 DG DN S could serve as the long part of the RF-S trinity, but compared with the 10-18 f/2.8 DC DN C and 18-50 f/2.8 DC DN C, it's large and heavy. Hence, the desire for a small and light 50-135 f/2.8 DC DN C lens.

If short 2/3 of the FF Sigma trinity is the 16-28 f/2.8 DG DN C and 28-70 DG DN C, then the 70-200 f/2.8 DG DN S is still comparatively large and bulky and might better be replaced with a smaller and lighter 70-200 f/4 DG DN C. (I'm 74 years old and trying to lighten my load.)

If this sounds weird and obsessive, consider that Canon does offer two complete FF L trinities, one where all the members are F/2.8 and another where all the members are f/4. (I own the EF trinity in F/4 and can adapt it for use with my R6-2.) So does Olympus/OMD. Canon doesn't offer a trinity for RF-S but apparently may be introducing one.

Did that answer the question you asked or did I go off on a tangent???
 
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