Canon Adds EOS R50 and EOS R8 to the Growing EOS R Mirrorless Camera System

[UlfricStormcloak]

As rp owner, I'm not disappointed with all the new specs that r8 is giving. I just don't feel they would benefits my hobbies. I'm sure Fv mode is still broken, takes away 1 dial from you and not allow you to handle the camera like fuji. An eye detector on a viewfinder is still working under sleeping mode and you can see it through the phone - it is continue to drain you small battery. New af is good, but what if your subject stands in front of a led light, will find it or find an eye? Doubt it. Most camera struggle with that and I'm not expecting a low budged FF would have it fixed. Sensor readout speed is still giving a rolling shutter effect which is not allow to forget mechanical shutter once and for all. Especially with its noise. There is no button under big thumb of a right hand, where af-on should be. There should be a trackpad, not the joystick as many wishes, so the changing the focus point in portrait through viewfinder would be plausible.

Anyway, all the things I've mentions is not overcast the joy of use my rp. R8 is surpassing it by number of ways in specs and I'm sure I would be happy with r8.

 

[Maximilian]

Canon R8\'s battery is a disappointment.

Agreed!
I understand that Canon did chose that LP-E17 for compatibility reasons with people who upgrade from the RP.
I understand that Canon did so for body size.
But it would have been nice, to improve its capacity, like Canon did with the LP-E6 to E6N and NH.

 

[Exploreshootshare]

I was one of the people hoping for an R8 FF entry level. To me, it really seems they have merged the R and the RP. Specs (sensor/ fps/ af) look great to me, the body seems a bit too basic. Is a joystick really that expensive? I thought it might get the R7 feature...
I understand that Canon has omitted the Touch Bar since there were so many complaints. They have replaced it with... nothing... that's a shame.
Battery life seems to be really crappy... I can't´really understand that, too.

 

[Exploreshootshare]

At first glimpse, the R8 won't be replacing my EOS R. It is a nice camera, no doubt about it. But in some ways the R still sticks up to it I might get an R7 in addition to the R for better wildlife/ sports AF. Otherwise, I'll be waiting for the next camera cycles and continue shooting with my beloved R.

 

[Aussie shooter]

Canon R8\'s battery is a disappointment.

Then buy an r62. Simples

 

[Aussie shooter]

Basically an r62 light for a crap load less. Not too bad tbh. And comes with an evf too which many were writing off as impossible at that price.

 

[UlfricStormcloak]

I understand that Canon did chose that LP-E17 for compatibility reasons with people who upgrade from the RP.

To prolong their struggle? Come on, rp owners would be happy to ditch a side their spare batteries.

 

[UlfricStormcloak]

Basically an r62 light for a crap load less. Not too bad tbh. And comes with an evf too which many were writing off as impossible at that price.

It suppose to be a m6-2 with ff sensor

 

[Maximilian]

To prolong their struggle? Come on, rp owners would be happy to ditch a side their spare batteries.

Did you make a survey?

 

[Aussie shooter]

It suppose to be a m6-2 with ff sensor

Who said that? And besides. It's waaay better than an m62 so pretty decent

 

[Skyscraperfan]

Would still shooters who already own the RP really upgrade to the R8?

 

[mariosk1gr]

I was hoping for much better specs for these cameras regarding their price. Also a unique new design for R50 also. I don't see any point for someone to choose R8 over R6/R6 mark II and the R50 is already "under" competition. Shame...

 

[Aussie shooter]

Would still shooters who already own the RP really upgrade to the R8?

If they want amazing AF then yes.

 

[adrian_bacon]

Would still shooters who already own the RP really upgrade to the R8?

Yep. I use an RP as my EDC, I've had my RP since it was released, and plan to cycle in the R8 as soon as funds allow because it is a superior camera. People like to poo poo the battery life of the RP, but I've honestly not found it to be much of an issue, at least not the way I use the camera. If you leave the camera on with the rear LCD screen facing out and on, and all the high performance features turned on, it's going to understandably get terrible battery life, but if you're sensible and aware that it doesn't have a giant battery, and operate accordingly, it's actually not as bad as the internet tends to yell and scream about. Could it be better? Sure, but it's not so bad that it's unusable.

 

[UlfricStormcloak]

Did you make a survey?

I'm owning rp + I was own d610 and x-e1 so I have a sense of how it suppose to be and how long should it last. D610 I could charge once a week I guess. Didn't use it quite often though due to its weight. It would be nice to have that battery here in rp.

 

[UlfricStormcloak]

Would still shooters who already own the RP really upgrade to the R8?

Nope, not in the first wave of buyers. I've accustomed to the flaws I have with RP and successfully make em work in my favor. Back button focus - checked, no crop - checked, perfect exposure - checked, fix horizon before the shot - checked, pay attention to the side of the frame not to the middle - checked, shoot whatever with 50mm only - checked, travel without backpack (handover it to my wife) and stick to the camera with one lens - checked.

I still wanting to have a "no focus" skill, where you're prefocus and shoot from your belly by predicting the distance that match to the focus point you have settled.

Jokes a side, RF still needs to have small lenses for me to continue to invest in this system.

 

[Del Paso]

Didn't I read somewhere of a "new form factor" ?
Both cameras look quite conventional. (Not a drawback !)

 

[tomri]

Surely cannot replace the R. Arguments in favor of the R compared to, for example, the A7III, were: better resolution, better build, better EVF, top LCD. The R8 loses in all 4 departments. Now we've got a DR that can compete with the A7III, now we have to give up the other advantages, or pay up significantly.

 

[ketsang]

I got exactly what I asked for, ie RP body with R6II sensor, but the rumour "new body design" has put my hope up too much and really hoping they have a new retro style or rangefinder style body. I might still get it. All I need now is a Nikon style pancake 26mm 2.8 lens.

 

[Deepboy]

Looks like not much different between R10 and R50. For the $200 price difference, I would say R50 wins. See link for Canon's own comparison between the two.

Canon R10 vs R50

I personally disagree, on the R10 the second dial on top and the joystick (and, at least for me, also the lock button) are worth the 200$ difference, and even more.
The pictures and video per se would certainly be exactly identical, so with R50 you'll get the same results for 200$ less; however in handling the R10 is a totally different beast, so it really depends on the kind of way someone uses the camera, especially if you're used to heavy touch screen usage to change settings (then yes, save and go with R50, absolutely), or the other way you entirely disable the touch screen, as I do, and relay totally on the buttons and dials layout, and so the R10 it's just another planet in those regards.