Canon Adds EOS R50 and EOS R8 to the Growing EOS R Mirrorless Camera System

[entoman]

The R8 has a mechanical shutter

Sort of. It doesn't have a purely mechanical shutter in the conventional sense, in which the shutter is opened and closed mechanically. In the R8, the choice is between EFCS and ES.

 

[kmrahe]

Looks like not much different between R10 and R50. For the $200 price difference, I would say R50 wins. See link for Canon's own comparison between the two.

Canon R10 vs R50

The existence of the R10 was what fueled my biggest doubts that Canon would actually come out with something like the R50. The market will sort it out, but it seems to me like only a tiny sliver of the camera-buying public would find the R10 worth the extra $200+.

 

[entoman]

In my opinion, Canon hit these out of the park. These look like great cameras at their price points.

Is there room for an R9 in the lineup at this point? I can't really see it happening.

Yes, a couple of excellent new options, expanding the Canon range to offer something for almost everyone, at all price points.

An R9? Yes, why not? I can see room for an even lower priced FF model, by eliminating the EVF and a few of the frills. It wouldn't be for me, but there are millions out there who only ever compose on a smartphone, but want the option of being able to fit a telezoom.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Still no camera for stills shooters (pun intended). But good work from product management. Some features worse than the competition, some better. Not bad enough to make you switch systems; but not good enough to make you happy neither.
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Edit: both prices are what I would pay in Germany today.
Battery life according to DPR.

Canon really does not have any full-frame mirrorless camera that competes directly against the Z 5.
The R6 is quite a bit more expensive.
Canon has more lenses with IS so I think IBIS is a bit overrated.
That does not matter so much because Canon has nothing with two card slots at that price either.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Who said that?

The rumor mill

 

[Maximilian]

The stupidly strong ejection spring did provide enough force to fling a Zip disk across the room, distracting you from getting actual work done while trying to find the optimum launch angle.

When I recall my physics lesson right, indoors without wind compensation needed it was about 46 to 47° angle.
Of course, if you had a vacuum tube it would be 45°

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Would still shooters who already own the RP really upgrade to the R8?

Some will, but camera models do not solely exist to get people to upgrade.

 

[kmrahe]

I personally disagree, on the R10 the second dial on top and the joystick (and, at least for me, also the lock button) are worth the 200$ difference, and even more.

I'm sure there will be some people like you who can appreciate those differences. But the vast majority of those who are drawn to the low end of the market are going to be looking at capabilities, results (and how easy it is to get them) and (somewhat) availability of lenses, and the lowest cost way to get them. They will assume that the manufacturer has provided a reasonable way to access the features they'll most commonly need, and live with whatever limitations those controls have if and when they start using the camera in a more sophisticated fashion.

 

[blackcoffee17]

The R8 is disappointing to me in design despite having really nice specs, I owned the RP for a while and the body just isn’t very ergonomic, I feel like it’s lazy for canon to just reuse the parts and leave out things like a control wheel or joystick (which even the cheaper R10 has).

It's not lazy, it's intentional. They want to make the RP/R8 less comfortable to use and cheaper to manufacture. If you want to have IBIS, joystick or control wheel, you need to spend more money. You cannot put cropped 4K without AF in a modern full frame anymore, so you need to differentiate in other ways.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

In Germany, the R sells for 1.299 € or 1.399 €. The R8 is priced at 1.799 €... I'd choose the R everyday over the R8 offering because the R8 is only better in the AF performance and FPS. If you absolutely need great AF and FPS, I guess the R7 is the best offering despite being APS-C.

The R8 has much faster rolling shutter so the electronic shutter FPS is more useful than the R7.

 

[jam05]

Nope. The R50 isn't a replacement for the M6 mk 2. Maybe, a huge maybe, it can replace an M50. Certainly not the M6 Mk 2. With that huge EVF hump. The M series haters have to wait for another projection. There won't be huge reduction in those M6 mk 2 prices yet.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Have a look at the R50 hotshoe! If you plan on ever using a strobist or studio flash with the R50, you'd better get a different camera.

I believe those would work fine with the $40 USD adapter

 

[tomri]

Then get the Panasonic, if you want to spend the extra, it's an excellent camera. Or save yourself $400 and get the R8, which is effectively a mini R6ii with a slightly lower spec and shorter battery life. Sometimes I think you just come here to search for something to groan about...

I think people rightfully come here to see new, inspiring things from Canon for their craft, not just things that barely work for more money than before.

 

[jam05]

Can probably do more with my Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra + M6 mk 2 than that R50 with it's huge EVF hump. Canon seems to be relentlessly stubborn with the EVF hump form factor else there's another camera awaiting, because this R50 isn't it. Not going to sell my Sigma and Canon EF and M lenses for the R50. Canon Rumors can rest awhile before another claim of the M6 replacement. Sorry, this aint it folks.

 

[tomri]

I believe those would work fine with the $40 USD adapter

The question is; why? I remember a guy who was forced to use such an adapter on the old, proprietary Sony hotshoe, and it stopped working in the middle of an expensive studio session. So really the question is: why?

 

[entoman]

Can probably do more with my Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra + M6 mk 2 than that R50 with it's huge EVF hump. Exactly who that camera is for is beyond me.

Possibly, if you have the necessary skill, but have you given any consideration to the fact that the R50 just might not be aimed at you personally?

If it's "beyond you" to understand, I'll tell you - the R50 is aimed at novices, newcomers to photography, who want a cheap, simple to operate, basic but perfectly capable camera, that *looks* like a "professional" camera (hence the EVF hump), and bears the name of the world's leading camera brand.

OK it isn't for you, and it isn't for me either. Come to that it probably isn't for many folk here on CR, as we are mostly committed enthusiasts or (in a few cases) professionals. But we're not the only people in the world, and we're not the target market.

 

[ashmadux]

Question.

Is there a list that shows which shooing modes revert to 12 bit from 14bit?

I have a new r62 im getting to grips with but i've only seen this info mentioned in bits and pieces. I'd prefer to use 14bit modes only unless i really have no choice.

• mechanical = 14
• 1st curtain = ?
• 40fps= 12 bit (just like most bodies on the market?)
• Full electric shutter, low fps= ?

Im even curious about how that affects the r50 - since it has no full mechanical shutter ability

Thanks in advance!!

 

[SHAMwow]

The R8 is disappointing to me in design despite having really nice specs, I owned the RP for a while and the body just isn’t very ergonomic, I feel like it’s lazy for canon to just reuse the parts and leave out things like a control wheel or joystick (which even the cheaper R10 has).

That was my first thought. These bodies look really rough.

 

[neuroanatomist]

I believe those would work fine with the $40 USD adapter

Yes, they should. As should all the 'old' Canon flashes, and by 'old' I mean every single currently available Speedlite, since only the EL-5 uses the new multifunction shoe natively and that's not even shipping until the end of March (I preordered one). That's pretty crappy to not make the R50's hotshoe backward-compatible, it would be a different story if there were a range of flashes available for the new shoe design.

The R8 supports old and new flashes.

 

[entoman]

Have a look at the R50 hotshoe! If you plan on ever using a strobist or studio flash with the R50, you'd better get a different camera.

Come on. You really think the R50 is aimed at people who use studio flashes?
It's a starter model for people who are unlikely to ever use anything other than a built-in flash or a cheap hotshoe flash.