Canon Announces the EOS 5D Mark IV DSLR

Like the extra button.

21 points at F8?

Looking closer I do feel a little dissapointed, but then on the other hand... don't think I'd ever use the dual pixel raw tbh.

Kind of glad I stumped up the extra and got a 1DX2. And I may add it's a weapon.

Prob end up with a Mk4 in the end, but only seems right to bitch about it hahaha ;)
 
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So.... now that Canon has released this camera, and it's dual pixel RAW files, we have proof that Canon was working on two various HUGELY INNOVATIVE features, during the last number of years.
The first was for video focusing - dual pixel AF for smooth and accurate video focus.... a total game changer and Canon exclusive.

Second, which we are seeing now, are the three features enabled by this dual pixel RAW.

Focus micro-adjustment available in post-production
Bokeh-shift available in post-production
Ghosting reduction available in post-production

All three are also total game-changers and Canon exclusive.
Canon is highly innovative, and has implemented these new, Canon exclusive technologies in their products.
Forget the Lytro for any serious and professional photo system.

Yet I bet people will still whine and cry that Canon isn't being innovative.
 
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adhocphotographer said:
nickvera said:
Here's what I'm talking about. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/news/canon-5d-mark-iv-arrives-two-updated-l-series-lenses?utm_medium=Email%201624262&utm_campaign=NewAnnouncement&utm_source=Canon%20160825&utm_content=Explora&utm_term=canon-5d-mark-iv-arrives

I started as a photographer, but have been doing a lot of film work over the last year (just finished a documentary on water research in an Indian tiger reserve... a lot of fun to film and make). I was waiting for the 5D IV, but to be honest, I am a bit underwhelmed. hmmmm I'll have to think, this is not a clear cut decision, and the 1.7 crop kills me... I pay for a FF camera, for that special look....

4k Crop factor on 1DX2 is substantially less because it's 20mp instead of 30mp. Or get the 12mp Sony a7s if you want zero cropping on FF... But then you dont have a very good resolution stills camera.
 
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davidj said:
Body only: $3,499
Body + 24-105 kit: $4599
24-105: $1,099

Why buy the kit? If my maths is right, it saves no money than buying separately (and actually costs a dollar more).
That's just a ridiculous price policy ::) ::) ::)

Even more ridiculous:
4.065,- € @ Calumet in Germany, body only.
If that's the MRSP and not a first adopter premium we'll have a 27 % price rise over the Mark III (MRSP 3.199,-).
But I don't see any 27 % rise in functionality (don't come with 36 % more MP ::) ).

So if I'll spend my money in Canon products in the near future it'll be for lenses, if any.
 
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rrcphoto said:
3 hours before dpreview puts the camera down as the fail of the year and does a shoutout to sony.. 8)

It seems that every time he blows a wedding photo, it is the camera's fault. It's never his fault. Always the camera that did something wrong or had some deficiency that a Sony would (in theory) have addressed.
 
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Refurb7 said:
rrcphoto said:
3 hours before dpreview puts the camera down as the fail of the year and does a shoutout to sony.. 8)

It seems that every time he blows a wedding photo, it is the camera's fault. It's never his fault. Always the camera that did something wrong or had some deficiency that a Sony would (in theory) have addressed.

Wasn't all the pictures on the "conclusions" page taken with 5D3??
 
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tpatana said:
Refurb7 said:
rrcphoto said:
3 hours before dpreview puts the camera down as the fail of the year and does a shoutout to sony.. 8)

It seems that every time he blows a wedding photo, it is the camera's fault. It's never his fault. Always the camera that did something wrong or had some deficiency that a Sony would (in theory) have addressed.

Wasn't all the pictures on the "conclusions" page taken with 5D3??

Yes. Just noticed the same thing ???
 
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Sporgon said:
tpatana said:
Refurb7 said:
rrcphoto said:
3 hours before dpreview puts the camera down as the fail of the year and does a shoutout to sony.. 8)

It seems that every time he blows a wedding photo, it is the camera's fault. It's never his fault. Always the camera that did something wrong or had some deficiency that a Sony would (in theory) have addressed.

Wasn't all the pictures on the "conclusions" page taken with 5D3??

Yes. Just noticed the same thing ???

"And we conclude that the pictures look exactly same as with 5D3, and you shouldn't buy 5D4. Buy Sony instead. Or Nikon."
 
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rrcphoto said:
nickvera said:
1.74x crop for 4k. MJPG files. LOL I'm out. I'll continue to use gorgeous canon lenses like my 85mm 1.2L II, but I'm switching to Sony bodies. That was a dumb and forceful mistake to go against the videographer market. That market doesn't care much for the C series. I would rather rent an Alexa Mini.

want some cheese with that excellent whine?

only if there are pieces of truffles! I don't like to settle ;D
 
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PureClassA said:
adhocphotographer said:
nickvera said:
Here's what I'm talking about. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/news/canon-5d-mark-iv-arrives-two-updated-l-series-lenses?utm_medium=Email%201624262&utm_campaign=NewAnnouncement&utm_source=Canon%20160825&utm_content=Explora&utm_term=canon-5d-mark-iv-arrives

I started as a photographer, but have been doing a lot of film work over the last year (just finished a documentary on water research in an Indian tiger reserve... a lot of fun to film and make). I was waiting for the 5D IV, but to be honest, I am a bit underwhelmed. hmmmm I'll have to think, this is not a clear cut decision, and the 1.7 crop kills me... I pay for a FF camera, for that special look....

4k Crop factor on 1DX2 is substantially less because it's 20mp instead of 30mp. Or get the 12mp Sony a7s if you want zero cropping on FF... But then you dont have a very good resolution stills camera.

Agreed. Though I still mostly shoot on the 1V and Pentax 67II
 
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Dual pixel raw won't allow vast changes to focus, but should be useful.

From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcQ9MSRRvn4

Edit: This shows the difference between the default focus and a maximum focus shift in one direction, so it's effectively half the range that is provided.
 

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Maximilian said:
That's just a ridiculous price policy ::) ::) ::)

Even more ridiculous:
4.065,- € @ Calumet in Germany, body only.
My first reaction to this was "Die wollen mich wohl verarschen?"
Even if you add 19% German sales tax you end up mathematically at 3,695 €.
What the heck is that additional ~365€ justified by? Translation of camera menu and manual to German, yeah sure...
 
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rrcphoto said:
nickvera said:
1.74x crop for 4k. MJPG files. LOL I'm out. I'll continue to use gorgeous canon lenses like my 85mm 1.2L II, but I'm switching to Sony bodies. That was a dumb and forceful mistake to go against the videographer market. That market doesn't care much for the C series. I would rather rent an Alexa Mini.

want some cheese with that excellent whine?

Ha ha!! Make it dry... +1

-pw
 
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