Canon EOS 5D Mark IV to Feature CFast & SD Card Slots [CR2]

[Dreysi]

I just want the 5d4 to come out so I can get a better deal in a new or used 5diii. Gonna put magic lantern on that sucker and make some beautiful art. Not too mention my A7s doesn't cut it for wildlife so that's a bonus too.

 

[expatinasia]

Do you actually know anyone who has ever bent the pins?

I have, although it was when I was much younger. My own fault, but I did manage to bend a couple of pins. I tried to manually straighten them out. Can't remember if it worked or not.

 

[rrcphoto]

We’re told by a pretty reliable source that the upcoming Canon EOS 5D Mark IV will feature both a CFast 2.0 slot and a SDXC UHS-II slot.</p>
<p>If the camera is going to shoot internal 4K like the Canon EOS-1D X Mark II, the CFast slot makes a lot of sense. The faster SD card slot will be a very welcome addition as well, as the the 5D Mark III used a standard SD card slot which was quite slow.</p>
<p>We’re still waiting for more reliable specifications about the EOS 5D Mark IV, a camera we expect to see announced later next month.</p>
<span id="pty_trigger"></span>

if that's the case then we'll probably going to get MJPEG 4K video aka like the 1DX Mark II

canon is not quite there yet with DiGiC to render out h.264 4k in a relatively easy manner, and this probably means no DiGiC 7 as well.

what got me thinking today though is the timing, we are in 2016, which is 4 years away from what canon will most likly have q

 

[AvTvM]

cfast like cf is too big by today's standards.

Which standards would those be? I'm unaware of a standard titled "today's".

today's standard flash memory card size is micro-sd. everything works with it except big fat antiquated mirrorslapper cameras.

i want a tiny camera without smoke and mirrors but with a big fat ff sensor and a tiny dual micro-sd uhs ii card slot. in my old eos m (1) i get 2000+ raw files on a 64gb micro sd card (via standard sd adapter). i have 5 such tiny and dirt cheap micro-sd (sdxc?) cards in my wallet and can get through an entire big fat greek wedding or a 2 week vacation in the most fabulous places.

 

[mnclayshooter]

cfast like cf is too big by today's standards.

Which standards would those be? I'm unaware of a standard titled "today's".

today's standard flash memory card size is micro-sd. everything works with it except big fat antiquated mirrorslapper cameras.

i want a tiny camera without smoke and mirrors but with a big fat ff sensor and a tiny dual micro-sd uhs ii card slot. in my old eos m (1) i get 2000+ raw files on a 64gb micro sd card (via standard sd adapter). i have 5 such tiny and dirt cheap micro-sd (sdxc?) cards in my wallet and can get through an entire big fat greek wedding or a 2 week vacation in the most fabulous places.

Is there a speed penalty on the micro SD? otherwise, it sparked what is perhaps one of my oldest ideas regarding having a pile of old thumb drives into a real-world application... optional RAID 10 mode on an array of small micro SD's (say 4 slots)... two raid 0's with parity/redundancy. That HAS to help the read-write speed issues we're coming up against? 4 micro SD's would fit in the side of a DSLR or even a compact VERY easily.

It opens an opportunity also for a user who wants it to act just as a big array, a small array say two uSD's operate in RAID 0 for burst speed, while the other two act as independent memory cards for stills? Or as a 4 independent drives to store massive amounts of data?

Think of never having to swap a card out on a trip? Never opening that side door to the elements?

Alternatively, how long before we're talking about a solid state drive in our DSLR's? 8)

 

[Slayer117x]

You shouldn't hold the camera technology back just because some people want to use their old memory cards. Imagine where we'd be if all digital cameras today still had to use the same memory cards that came out when digital cameras first started taking off.

+1

There is a name for those cards. Compact Flash

It is a bit funny to read comments from people who obviously haven't been watching digital photography since its inception

I think the first digital compact camera I bought was a Canon that came with a 16MB CF card?

We had an Apple QuickTake 100 at work.... I went crazy and got a Kodac DC40......768x512 pixels of super high resolution digital photography!

For some inexplicable reason, I still have some of my early memory cards, today they won't fit a single image.... We have come a long way since then.....

You guys make me feel old. My first digital camera was a Sony Mavica FD5, it took floppy disks. And they only held a few images on each disk. I think it was something like 1/4 MP. Sure seemed awesome at the time though.

 

[crazyrunner33]

We’re told by a pretty reliable source that the upcoming Canon EOS 5D Mark IV will feature both a CFast 2.0 slot and a SDXC UHS-II slot.</p>
<p>If the camera is going to shoot internal 4K like the Canon EOS-1D X Mark II, the CFast slot makes a lot of sense. The faster SD card slot will be a very welcome addition as well, as the the 5D Mark III used a standard SD card slot which was quite slow.</p>
<p>We’re still waiting for more reliable specifications about the EOS 5D Mark IV, a camera we expect to see announced later next month.</p>
<span id="pty_trigger"></span>

if that's the case then we'll probably going to get MJPEG 4K video aka like the 1DX Mark II

canon is not quite there yet with DiGiC to render out h.264 4k in a relatively easy manner, and this probably means no DiGiC 7 as well.

what got me thinking today though is the timing, we are in 2016, which is 4 years away from what canon will most likly have q

I'm hoping for the MJPEG for reliability. As I stated before, processing into a smaller codec requires a lot of processing power, and heat as a result . The reviews for the new Fuxi XT2 are starting to come out, it has log(which is great, hopefully a log will be available on the 5D), but even it is still experiencing heat issues with just H.264. The camera won't let you record more than 10 minutes at a time due to overheating. Until Canon can catch up with the technology, I'll be happy with a reliable and data hungry internal codec, and an uncompressed output.

For people who want a small files and a beautiful image, the Samsung NX1 is a great option, but as the owners of those cameras have found out, it's very difficult to edit the footage at this time(unless if you have an incredible editing rig). For small files and easy editing, the C100 is hard to beat.

 

[arthur]

i do not know why people do not talk about the weakness of 8bit ...and How much it's bad in post ... We do not want 8bit .. I've stopped using Canon for this reason ..
4k 60fps 14bit .. is that impossible ?

 

[arthur]

I swear by God .. if Blackmagic ursa 4.6 did not suffer from magenta cast .. i will not come back again to Ask about canon Ancient devices

 

[mnclayshooter]

cfast like cf is too big by today's standards.

Which standards would those be? I'm unaware of a standard titled "today's".

today's standard flash memory card size is micro-sd. everything works with it except big fat antiquated mirrorslapper cameras.

i want a tiny camera without smoke and mirrors but with a big fat ff sensor and a tiny dual micro-sd uhs ii card slot. in my old eos m (1) i get 2000+ raw files on a 64gb micro sd card (via standard sd adapter). i have 5 such tiny and dirt cheap micro-sd (sdxc?) cards in my wallet and can get through an entire big fat greek wedding or a 2 week vacation in the most fabulous places.

Is there a speed penalty on the micro SD? otherwise, it sparked what is perhaps one of my oldest ideas regarding having a pile of old thumb drives into a real-world application... optional RAID 10 mode on an array of small micro SD's (say 4 slots)... two raid 0's with parity/redundancy. That HAS to help the read-write speed issues we're coming up against? 4 micro SD's would fit in the side of a DSLR or even a compact VERY easily.

It opens an opportunity also for a user who wants it to act just as a big array, a small array say two uSD's operate in RAID 0 for burst speed, while the other two act as independent memory cards for stills? Or as a 4 independent drives to store massive amounts of data?

Think of never having to swap a card out on a trip? Never opening that side door to the elements?

Alternatively, how long before we're talking about a solid state drive in our DSLR's? 8)

AANNNDD as usual... someone did it already.

http://gizmodo.com/5302727/photofast-cr-7200-compactflash-adapter-runs-four-microsds-in-raid

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

...
Do you actually know anyone who has ever bent the pins?

In CF readers, I have many times.

In the camera, I think only once.

Well I guess it happens then.

I'm just personally surprised since so far zero times in readers and zero times in cameras (and doing sports, I'm often in a mad, mad rush to change cards ultra fast and in awkward positions) and I've never personally heard any photo friends complain about it.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

i do not know why people do not talk about the weakness of 8bit ...and How much it's bad in post ... We do not want 8bit .. I've stopped using Canon for this reason ..
4k 60fps 14bit .. is that impossible ?

Yeah 8bit vs 10bit would be huge. The SOny a7rii video is so beautiful, oversampled and just perfect, no wax, awesome detail, natural looking the only bad thing is the 8bit. I have doubts canon will match the quality in 8bits but if they use 10bits maybe they can outdo it overall in that way.

the codec is like the most minor thing to worry about in terms of IQ, it's all about 8 bit vs 10bit and not doing some nasty processing that riddles it with aliasing or turns it wax and mush or plastic (just compare 5D3 native video to ML RAW, it's beyond night and day just for detail alone never mind the extra bits and between the two wow, you can even shoot wide gamut video in it target the color space of your wide gamut monitor, pretty awesome for flowers/sunsets/etc. although not yet super great for sharing)

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

also they really can't drop the ball and leave out focus peaking, zoomed 100% live focusing box, zebras, those are just basic absolute musts not the advanced features they like to pretend

 

[privatebydesign]

...
Do you actually know anyone who has ever bent the pins?

In CF readers, I have many times.

In the camera, I think only once.

Well I guess it happens then.

I'm just personally surprised since so far zero times in readers and zero times in cameras (and doing sports, I'm often in a mad, mad rush to change cards ultra fast and in awkward positions) and I've never personally heard any photo friends complain about it.

I bent pins in an old cheap card reader once which wasn't surprising given how loosely the card fitted in the slot. But I broke a pin off completely in an old Powershot, the darndest thing about the damaged Powershot is it kept working perfectly even with the pin completely missing.

 

[mikekx102]

Why are all the rumors of the 5D only about 4K and CFast 2.0. I'm really happy about both of these features, but how are the rumors looking on the following:

- Burst rate? The higher the better =D
- Auto-focus system?
- Megapixels
- Sensor Quality
- GPS & Wifi
- Spot metering points?
- Anti flicker mode?
- Other goodies

Mike

 

[-1]

Why are all the rumors of the 5D only about 4K and CFast 2.0. I'm really happy about both of these features, but how are the rumors looking on the following:

- Burst rate? The higher the better =D
- Auto-focus system?
- Megapixels
- Sensor Quality
- GPS & Wifi
- Spot metering points?
- Anti flicker mode?
- Other goodies

Mike

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=30226.msg606324#msg606324
HTH...

 

[Ozarker]

cfast like cf is too big by today's standards.

Which standards would those be? I'm unaware of a standard titled "today's".

today's standard flash memory card size is micro-sd. everything works with it except big fat antiquated mirrorslapper cameras.

i want a tiny camera without smoke and mirrors but with a big fat ff sensor and a tiny dual micro-sd uhs ii card slot. in my old eos m (1) i get 2000+ raw files on a 64gb micro sd card (via standard sd adapter). i have 5 such tiny and dirt cheap micro-sd (sdxc?) cards in my wallet and can get through an entire big fat greek wedding or a 2 week vacation in the most fabulous places.

Yes, but, you don't shoot weddings. Not even skinny Swedish weddings.

You shoot local football games and a Halloween actor portraying Thor.

Not sure, but isn't micro sd xd hc uhs ii Millennial Falcon III too slow for what you want? Isn't CFast much faster?

Honestly, once I removed the SD card from my 5D Mark III I got a much deeper buffer. With just the CF card it will keep clicking away nearly non-stop in Raw.

However, I discovered my wonderful (yet I guess, antiquated) camera doesn't support the faster SD cards.

 

[slclick]

cfast like cf is too big by today's standards.

Which standards would those be? I'm unaware of a standard titled "today's".

today's standard flash memory card size is micro-sd. everything works with it except big fat antiquated mirrorslapper cameras.

i want a tiny camera without smoke and mirrors but with a big fat ff sensor and a tiny dual micro-sd uhs ii card slot. in my old eos m (1) i get 2000+ raw files on a 64gb micro sd card (via standard sd adapter). i have 5 such tiny and dirt cheap micro-sd (sdxc?) cards in my wallet and can get through an entire big fat greek wedding or a 2 week vacation in the most fabulous places.

Yes, but, you don't shoot weddings. Not even skinny Swedish weddings.

You shoot local football games and a Halloween actor portraying Thor.

Not sure, but isn't micro sd xd hc uhs ii Millennial Falcon III too slow for what you want? Isn't CFast much faster?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/6387181333/samsung-launches-first-removable-ufs-memory-cards

Flash! Ahhhhahhhhhhhhh

 

[tpatana]

cfast like cf is too big by today's standards.

Which standards would those be? I'm unaware of a standard titled "today's".

today's standard flash memory card size is micro-sd. everything works with it except big fat antiquated mirrorslapper cameras.

i want a tiny camera without smoke and mirrors but with a big fat ff sensor and a tiny dual micro-sd uhs ii card slot. in my old eos m (1) i get 2000+ raw files on a 64gb micro sd card (via standard sd adapter). i have 5 such tiny and dirt cheap micro-sd (sdxc?) cards in my wallet and can get through an entire big fat greek wedding or a 2 week vacation in the most fabulous places.

Yes, but, you don't shoot weddings. Not even skinny Swedish weddings.

You shoot local football games and a Halloween actor portraying Thor.

Not sure, but isn't micro sd xd hc uhs ii Millennial Falcon III too slow for what you want? Isn't CFast much faster?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/6387181333/samsung-launches-first-removable-ufs-memory-cards

Flash! Ahhhhahhhhhhhhh

He's a miracle!

 

[Ozarker]

cfast like cf is too big by today's standards.

Which standards would those be? I'm unaware of a standard titled "today's".

today's standard flash memory card size is micro-sd. everything works with it except big fat antiquated mirrorslapper cameras.

i want a tiny camera without smoke and mirrors but with a big fat ff sensor and a tiny dual micro-sd uhs ii card slot. in my old eos m (1) i get 2000+ raw files on a 64gb micro sd card (via standard sd adapter). i have 5 such tiny and dirt cheap micro-sd (sdxc?) cards in my wallet and can get through an entire big fat greek wedding or a 2 week vacation in the most fabulous places.

Yes, but, you don't shoot weddings. Not even skinny Swedish weddings.

You shoot local football games and a Halloween actor portraying Thor.

Not sure, but isn't micro sd xd hc uhs ii Millennial Falcon III too slow for what you want? Isn't CFast much faster?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/6387181333/samsung-launches-first-removable-ufs-memory-cards

Flash! Ahhhhahhhhhhhhh

WOW! It is so fun to watch technology advance.

Now I'll ask the inevitable forum question: What does anyone think the chances are that these will show up on the 1DX Mark III and do you think this will allow 25 frames per second?