Canon EOS 6D Mark II Has Begun Shipping

privatebydesign said:
CanonGuy said:
I'm member of a few fb Photographer groups (Mastin, VSCO, looks like film, slr lounge etc.). Before someone bashes these group, FYI, these groups have the most popular wedding photographers of the entire world (saying this because I know some members of this group lives in the cave and disrespects/dont count these groups. Yes cave people still exists and apparently they have big mouth lol).

There has been at least 20 different posts in these groups about 6d2. I'm very pleased to see the general disappointment towards Canon in these groups. I hope Canon will learn a lesson this time. Hopefully d850 and a7riii are released soon. I'm keeping my 5d3 and 6d till then.

Then adios to Canon.

And how many of those people have already used the camera at several weddings and posted illustrative images showing exactly where the 6D MkII is failing them?

Adios...... ::)

I still can shoot a full wedding with 5d mk ii and get excellent result. But that's not an excuse or reson for Canon to be idiotic with their sensor. A sensor is a main part of the camera. And everyone expects that to be better in the next version of a body. Every other vendors are doing that and showing that on the face of canon.

This inability and cash grab mentality of canon is what irritates me. that's why decided to not support them anymore.

will the 6d2 DR be enough for me? Certainly! Will the other vendors put out bodies with better DR in the same price range? Certainly, too. So why would I pay canon? I will always support the company who innovates and has less cash grab mentality. Exactly why I am replacing all my canon glasses to art. gradually.
 
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Ok. So I got my 6d mark II today. It's badass... only one problem. Lightroom isn't ready for it and Raw files won't open. Lightroom can't read them. So I called canon. Tech told me Lightroom won't have the plug ready for several weeks to a month. So till then you have to use canons editing software. Also, i used the last free Lightroom before the creative cloud version with my 5d3. Now I'll have to pay for the creative cloud version. Double bummer? Camera is sick though.
 
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jmoya said:
Ok. So I got my 6d mark II today. It's badass... only one problem. Lightroom isn't ready for it and Raw files won't open. Lightroom can't read them. So I called canon. Tech told me Lightroom won't have the plug ready for several weeks to a month. So till then you have to use canons editing software. Also, i used the last free Lightroom before the creative cloud version with my 5d3. Now I'll have to pay for the creative cloud version. Double bummer? Camera is sick though.

Don't you love it when you contact a supposed expert and they talk sh!t?

Adobe Camera RAW 9.12 opens 6D MkII files.

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html#Canon
 
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CanonGuy said:
privatebydesign said:
CanonGuy said:
I'm member of a few fb Photographer groups (Mastin, VSCO, looks like film, slr lounge etc.). Before someone bashes these group, FYI, these groups have the most popular wedding photographers of the entire world (saying this because I know some members of this group lives in the cave and disrespects/dont count these groups. Yes cave people still exists and apparently they have big mouth lol).

There has been at least 20 different posts in these groups about 6d2. I'm very pleased to see the general disappointment towards Canon in these groups. I hope Canon will learn a lesson this time. Hopefully d850 and a7riii are released soon. I'm keeping my 5d3 and 6d till then.

Then adios to Canon.

And how many of those people have already used the camera at several weddings and posted illustrative images showing exactly where the 6D MkII is failing them?

Adios...... ::)

I still can shoot a full wedding with 5d mk ii and get excellent result. But that's not an excuse or reson for Canon to be idiotic with their sensor. A sensor is a main part of the camera. And everyone expects that to be better in the next version of a body. Every other vendors are doing that and showing that on the face of canon.

This inability and cash grab mentality of canon is what irritates me. that's why decided to not support them anymore.

will the 6d2 DR be enough for me? Certainly! Will the other vendors put out bodies with better DR in the same price range? Certainly, too. So why would I pay canon? I will always support the company who innovates and has less cash grab mentality. Exactly why I am replacing all my canon glasses to art. gradually.

So in answer to my question, none.... ::) ::) ::)
 
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neuroanatomist said:
LonelyBoy said:
Yasko said:
jayt567 said:
Channone said:
For those who do Astrophotography the tilty-flippy screen should be a big win. No more heating up of the sensor with Live View.

Don't you still need live view to see it on the tilty screen?

Now think again about what you just wrote...
Yes you still need LV, but the heat source (display) is tilted away from the camera, thus introducing significantly less heat into the camera body.

gn8

I thought the major source of sensor heat in LV was the sensor itself, constantly reading and writing frames.

It is, but technical knowledge evidently isn't everyone's strong suit.

Lol you're right... didnt think about the sensor :-X.
Well but cooling might still be better as the body is less thick
:-X
 
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CanonGuy said:
will the 6d2 DR be enough for me? Certainly! Will the other vendors put out bodies with better DR in the same price range? Certainly, too. So why would I pay canon? I will always support the company who innovates and has less cash grab mentality. Exactly why I am replacing all my canon glasses to art. gradually.

I don't know how about you, but I never pay for DR only. I also pay for great ergonomics and handling, reliability, consistency and good repair and maintenance services. The whole Canon system is very cohesive and reliable. I'm not buying just a sensor in a box.

All companies have cash-grab mentality, it's just Canon is on top, so it's most prominent. Have you seen latest Sony GM lens prices? Almost make L-lenses look like a bargain.

I understand your frustration, I really do. It's a shame that Canon did not improved 6D II in DR deparment, while they certainly have the means to do so. And? Big deal, just skip that body altogether. If your 6D serves you just fine, why change it? Never fix, what ain't broke :)
 
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Come down to ground. Here is the latest from Canon's 2nd quarter:

"Within the Imaging System Business Unit, although sales volume of interchangeable-lens digital cameras
**declined compared with the previous year, owing to the shrinking market**, unit sales of compact-system
cameras, including the newly launched EOS M6, increased from the same period of previous year, allowing
Canon to maintain the top share in major countries in Europe, the U.S. and Japan"

And ppl. expect that a 6DMK2 will have 4K, 30Mpix and other 5dMKIV rivaling features. Well it's a shrinking market, so they maximize profits.

We'll see what did Sony/Nikon achieve on the 1st/3rd of August.
 
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dflt said:
Come down to ground. Here is the latest from Canon's 2nd quarter:

"Within the Imaging System Business Unit, although sales volume of interchangeable-lens digital cameras
**declined compared with the previous year, owing to the shrinking market**, unit sales of compact-system
cameras, including the newly launched EOS M6, increased from the same period of previous year, allowing
Canon to maintain the top share in major countries in Europe, the U.S. and Japan"

And ppl. expect that a 6DMK2 will have 4K, 30Mpix and other 5dMKIV rivaling features. Well it's a shrinking market, so they maximize profits.

We'll see what did Sony/Nikon achieve on the 1st/3rd of August.

Yes and Sony/Nikon are just going to give all their features away for free on the upcoming cameras. The cameras will have twice the features and cost half as much and the companies will be twice as profitable and provide better service to boot with half the number of emplyees. ;D ;D ;D It's another version of the new math.

Jack
 
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Jack Douglas said:
Am I wrong? Didn't the initial stink about the DR of this camera peg it at around 9 and state it to be worse than the 6D? The Trusted Reviews review displays a curve with ISO 50 yielding DR = 12.2 and stating it exceeds the 6D.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-performance-image-quality-verdict

So what's happening here, or is it apples vs. oranges again?

Jack

It turns out that a mistake might have been made with the original 6D data and that Trusted Reviews are now planning to do a re-test - please see link below with a response from Trusted Reviews:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/59890647
 
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Confused Man said:
Jack Douglas said:
Am I wrong? Didn't the initial stink about the DR of this camera peg it at around 9 and state it to be worse than the 6D? The Trusted Reviews review displays a curve with ISO 50 yielding DR = 12.2 and stating it exceeds the 6D.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-performance-image-quality-verdict

So what's happening here, or is it apples vs. oranges again?

Jack

It turns out that a mistake might have been made with the original 6D data and that Trusted Reviews are now planning to do a re-test - please see link below with a response from Trusted Reviews:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/59890647

But of course, no one is going to pay attention to this part:

"In real-world use I did find there to be more than enough leverage to pull back detail from shadowed regions, albeit not quite as impressive as the EOS 5D Mark IV."
 
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privatebydesign said:
jmoya said:
Ok. So I got my 6d mark II today. It's badass... only one problem. Lightroom isn't ready for it and Raw files won't open. Lightroom can't read them. So I called canon. Tech told me Lightroom won't have the plug ready for several weeks to a month. So till then you have to use canons editing software. Also, i used the last free Lightroom before the creative cloud version with my 5d3. Now I'll have to pay for the creative cloud version. Double bummer? Camera is sick though.

Don't you love it when you contact a supposed expert and they talk sh!t?

Adobe Camera RAW 9.12 opens 6D MkII files.

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html#Canon

Yes a but I have LR 5.7 so DPP is all I get for now. I will resist grumbling about Adobe and their cash grabbing. Others will support it soon enough.......
 
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CanonGuy said:
I'm member of a few fb Photographer groups (Mastin, VSCO, looks like film, slr lounge etc.). Before someone bashes these group, FYI, these groups have the most popular wedding photographers of the entire world (saying this because I know some members of this group lives in the cave and disrespects/dont count these groups. Yes cave people still exists and apparently they have big mouth lol).

There has been at least 20 different posts in these groups about 6d2. I'm very pleased to see the general disappointment towards Canon in these groups. I hope Canon will learn a lesson this time. Hopefully d850 and a7riii are released soon. I'm keeping my 5d3 and 6d till then.

Then adios to Canon.

Why not sell your two bodies and pick up a 5D4? That seems easier than switching brands and selling everything.

Of course, what I think you'll actually do is not get the 5D4, not switch to Nikon or Sony, and just hang around and whine about Canon.
 
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Pax2You said:
privatebydesign said:
jmoya said:
Ok. So I got my 6d mark II today. It's badass... only one problem. Lightroom isn't ready for it and Raw files won't open. Lightroom can't read them. So I called canon. Tech told me Lightroom won't have the plug ready for several weeks to a month. So till then you have to use canons editing software. Also, i used the last free Lightroom before the creative cloud version with my 5d3. Now I'll have to pay for the creative cloud version. Double bummer? Camera is sick though.

Don't you love it when you contact a supposed expert and they talk sh!t?

Adobe Camera RAW 9.12 opens 6D MkII files.

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html#Canon

Yes a but I have LR 5.7 so DPP is all I get for now. I will resist grumbling about Adobe and their cash grabbing. Others will support it soon enough.......

Then you were wrong and don't "have the last version before the CC version" (in the sense that you can get 6.X without CC, anyway), and you don't "have to pay for the CC version" (at least in the sense of using CC, you can just get a standalone perpetual license for 6.X).

Come on, you spent $2000 on a camera body and you're balking at less than $100 on upgrading to the new version of LR to work with it? And you're blaming it on your unwillingness to switch to CC, which you don't have to do? Really?
 
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LonelyBoy said:
"In real-world use I did find there to be more than enough leverage to pull back detail from shadowed regions, albeit not quite as impressive as the EOS 5D Mark IV."

Why would they? It does not fit into "Canon has only 12 EV DR, therefore Canon is doomed" propaganda :)
 
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