Canon EOS 6D Mark II Has Begun Shipping

[Khalai]

I was testing auto-focus on the 85L at f/1.2, and the focus is more accurate using the 1-point AF on live view than spot AF on the viewfinder. Is this normal?

LV focusing is always more accurate, it eliminates any AFMA inconsistencies, which may occur during phase detection AF. Remember, in LV you are focusing directly on sensor, instead of light going through secondary (sub)mirror onto AF module.

And since 6D II has DPAF, LV focusing should be noticeably faster from previous 6D, right?

 

[mahdi_mak2000]

I shot some at 6400 during the afternoon hours and pulled out the shadows in some trees. maybe 1 stop and theres was plenty of noise. Not impressed.

You're raising shadows at ISO 6400 and are surprised there's noise? ???

of course, do it on 3 years old D750, Apsc a6500 , No problem. why I as canon user should not be able to do it? I m doing bird photography and I face with lots of back light scene. I need to be able to push 3 stop at 6400 bcz cheaper, older cameras can do

 

[SecureGSM]

are you saying that your Nikon/ Sony supercams have 3 stop advantaged at ISO 6400?
lets see:

Nikon D750 Low Light ISO : 5270
Canon 5D IV Low Light ISO: 5011 - just a fraction of the stop less. what is not to love?
Canon 6D II Low Light ISO : 4178 - 1/4 stop less
Canon 6D Low Light ISO : 4070 - 1/4 + a bit
Canon 5D III Low Light ISO : 3652 - 1/2 stop less
Sony 6300 Low Light ISO : 2756 - 1 full stop less.

http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm

I shot some at 6400 during the afternoon hours and pulled out the shadows in some trees. maybe 1 stop and theres was plenty of noise. Not impressed.

You're raising shadows at ISO 6400 and are surprised there's noise? ???

of course, do it on 3 years old D750, Apsc a6500 , No problem. why I as canon user should not be able to do it? I m doing bird photography and I face with lots of back light scene. I need to be able to push 3 stop at 6400 bcz cheaper, older cameras can do

 

[canonlover]

I shot some at 6400 during the afternoon hours and pulled out the shadows in some trees. maybe 1 stop and theres was plenty of noise. Not impressed.

You're raising shadows at ISO 6400 and are surprised there's noise? ???

;D ;D ure so right these guys are killing me

 

[Orangutan]

I shot some at 6400 during the afternoon hours and pulled out the shadows in some trees. maybe 1 stop and theres was plenty of noise. Not impressed.

You're raising shadows at ISO 6400 and are surprised there's noise? ???

of course, do it on 3 years old D750, Apsc a6500 , No problem. why I as canon user should not be able to do it? I m doing bird photography and I face with lots of back light scene. I need to be able to push 3 stop at 6400 bcz cheaper, older cameras can do

Please show examples.

 

[Point22]

How is the moiré in video with the new Canon 6D II compared to the original 6D? Is it as bad or better like the Canon 5D III?

Much Much better ( 6D vs 6D2 )

 

[unfocused]

Now that it is shipping, it looks like the 6DII is back in the top position among full-frame DSLRs on Amazon.

No. 5 among all DSLRs. No. 10 is the original 6D. No. 13 is the 5D IV. Nikon D810 is at No. 17. Ranking as of 9:30 a.m. Central Time this a.m.

 

[Jack Douglas]

I shot some at 6400 during the afternoon hours and pulled out the shadows in some trees. maybe 1 stop and theres was plenty of noise. Not impressed.

You're raising shadows at ISO 6400 and are surprised there's noise? ???

of course, do it on 3 years old D750, Apsc a6500 , No problem. why I as canon user should not be able to do it? I m doing bird photography and I face with lots of back light scene. I need to be able to push 3 stop at 6400 bcz cheaper, older cameras can do

Please show examples.

You guys are nearly as bad as Neuro, throwing out facts and rational thinking and spoiling peoples parties. I used to assume written statements would be more reliable than verbal because they would get reviewed before being published (antidote to loose mouth/bowel syndrome) but CR corrected that thinking for me.

Jack

 

[x-vision]

I need to be able to push 3 stop at 6400 bcz cheaper, older cameras can do

Are you being sarcastic?

If not, you are plain wrong.

Any FF camera will have certain amount of noise at ISO 6400.
And at high ISOs in particular, Canon cameras have historically edged out other brands for both noise and dynamic range.

 

[Adelino]

Funny thing, by default, it has the guide UI (or whatever it's called) enabled, so when you change exposure modes it tells you, hey, you're in Shutter Priority -- you can go this way to freeze the waterfall, or this way for it to appear flowing! Really? There are people who buy a FF camera who don't understand how exposure modes work? Scary!

I'm a regular atendee of a certain landscape photographers meeting and workshop. One time, there came a guy, who had brand new 5D III with 24-105/4L and 70-200/4L IS, all wrapped in boxes. His first humble request was - how do I mount the lens and how do I take photos? Go figure

Sounds like you guys helped him out. I saw the UI guide in the 80D review and thought it seemed cool for some people. Seems like a good tool that is easily disabled.
Fortunately after two years, he's a regular as well and proficient user, who takes nice imagery. So yeah, UI guide is definitely helpful for some

 

[Don Haines]

of course, do it on 3 years old D750, Apsc a6500 , No problem. why I as canon user should not be able to do it? I m doing bird photography and I face with lots of back light scene. I need to be able to push 3 stop at 6400 bcz cheaper, older cameras can do

When shooting a subject against a bright sky, have you considered using exposure compensation..... or spot meter... or manual..... or a fill flash........ or a number of other methods to expose the subject properly......

 

[Adelino]

One thing that's pretty obvious but still seems to be overlooked by some is this. Telephoto users like reach and so APSC gets acknowledged in that department. Well, wide angle users like wide angles and APSC doesn't fill that bill too well. Two cameras of course does the trick but I for one prefer only hiking with one; that's heavy enough and less clumsy.

Jack

Which brings up a good point, Canon have the refurbished 6d and 80D at a price that one can get BOTH for less money. That's a pretty compelling setup.

 

[Don Haines]

One thing that's pretty obvious but still seems to be overlooked by some is this. Telephoto users like reach and so APSC gets acknowledged in that department. Well, wide angle users like wide angles and APSC doesn't fill that bill too well. Two cameras of course does the trick but I for one prefer only hiking with one; that's heavy enough and less clumsy.

Jack

Which brings up a good point, Canon have the refurbished 6d and 80D at a price that one can get BOTH for less money. That's a pretty compelling setup.

funny you said this......

I was just talking cameras with a friend, and said that for me the ideal setup would be a 7D2 and a 5D4, but if you wanted to go cheap you could almost do as well with an 80D and a 6D and with the money saved on the bodies, get better glass and you would be further ahead!

 

[Talys]

One thing that's pretty obvious but still seems to be overlooked by some is this. Telephoto users like reach and so APSC gets acknowledged in that department. Well, wide angle users like wide angles and APSC doesn't fill that bill too well. Two cameras of course does the trick but I for one prefer only hiking with one; that's heavy enough and less clumsy.

Jack

Which brings up a good point, Canon have the refurbished 6d and 80D at a price that one can get BOTH for less money. That's a pretty compelling setup.

funny you said this......

I was just talking cameras with a friend, and said that for me the ideal setup would be a 7D2 and a 5D4, but if you wanted to go cheap you could almost do as well with an 80D and a 6D and with the money saved on the bodies, get better glass and you would be further ahead!

Personally, when I go out specifically for photography, I like a 2-camera harness. Time will tell, but I'm excited at the prospect of 80D + 6D2.

The reason I have never seriously considered 7D2, 6D or 5D4 is that in the studio, when a camera is rolling around a tall tripod pointed downwards, the articulating screen pretty much overrides every other feature. The 5D's price has always been more than I wanted to spend on a body, but if either 5D4 or 5DSR had a been available with an articulating screen, Canon would probably have gotten my money by now anyways... because I tend to buy a lot of stuff that is more than I want to spend

 

[CTJohn]

Can anyone comment on the noise level between ISO 6400 on the original 6D and the Mark II? I typically limit my ISO at 6400 on the 6D. Do I gain a stop (or more) on the new one?

 

[Don Haines]

One thing that's pretty obvious but still seems to be overlooked by some is this. Telephoto users like reach and so APSC gets acknowledged in that department. Well, wide angle users like wide angles and APSC doesn't fill that bill too well. Two cameras of course does the trick but I for one prefer only hiking with one; that's heavy enough and less clumsy.

Jack

Which brings up a good point, Canon have the refurbished 6d and 80D at a price that one can get BOTH for less money. That's a pretty compelling setup.

funny you said this......

I was just talking cameras with a friend, and said that for me the ideal setup would be a 7D2 and a 5D4, but if you wanted to go cheap you could almost do as well with an 80D and a 6D and with the money saved on the bodies, get better glass and you would be further ahead!

Personally, when I go out specifically for photography, I like a 2-camera harness. Time will tell, but I'm excited at the prospect of 80D + 6D2.

The reason I have never seriously considered 7D2, 6D or 5D4 is that in the studio, when a camera is rolling around a tall tripod pointed downwards, the articulating screen pretty much overrides every other feature. The 5D's price has always been more than I wanted to spend on a body, but if either 5D4 or 5DSR had a been available with an articulating screen, Canon would probably have gotten my money by now anyways... because I tend to buy a lot of stuff that is more than I want to spend

I was out (unsuccessfully) taking pictures of the Milky Way last night. I would have loved to have had a 6D2 on the top of the tripod. The tilt-swivel screen would have been greatly appreciated, and I an very curious to see how the Bluetooth connection to a phone or tablet would work in real life.....

 

[Orangutan]

of course, do it on 3 years old D750, Apsc a6500 , No problem. why I as canon user should not be able to do it? I m doing bird photography and I face with lots of back light scene. I need to be able to push 3 stop at 6400 bcz cheaper, older cameras can do

When shooting a subject against a bright sky, have you considered using exposure compensation..... or spot meter... or manual..... or a fill flash........ or a number of other methods to expose the subject properly......

As someone who occasionally photographs birds, I can say that's easier said than done (for me).

>EC
Yup, use it, and it definitely helps. It's harder in partly-cloudy skies with BIF because it throws off metering.

>manual
My 70D does not have M+EC. I hear that 80D does, and I may get that eventually. Again, manual is fine for stationary birds, but it's a challenge when they move.

>fill flash
I just recently bought a flash extender, but have not learned how to use it properly. First attempts were more humorous than anything.

I find that bird photography + proper exposure is more probabilistic than deterministic: I learn how to increase my odds of getting a proper exposure, but I'm always anxious when I have a fleeting opportunity to shoot without adjustment. Shadow lifting is a desirable quality, thought not enough to overwhelm the other considerations. Having clean shadow lifts would definitely save a few shots, though I don't think I could put a number on that.

 

[Deepboy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNrpuUES3Sw

From 10:00 to 10:20

Looks pretty pretty bad... :'(

 

[Yasko]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNrpuUES3Sw

From 10:00 to 10:20

Looks pretty pretty bad... :'(

That's what I have been waiting for. The Camera Store is one of my favorite channels that I trust most (as well as Dustin Abott and Christopher Frost, for lenses) and sadly the example images even in comparison to a T7i really show what everyone means by restricted DR of the 6D mk II ???

I guess it's just for me to wait for a FF mirrorless from Canon and keeping my trusty 70D as my main body .

 

[Don Haines]

of course, do it on 3 years old D750, Apsc a6500 , No problem. why I as canon user should not be able to do it? I m doing bird photography and I face with lots of back light scene. I need to be able to push 3 stop at 6400 bcz cheaper, older cameras can do

When shooting a subject against a bright sky, have you considered using exposure compensation..... or spot meter... or manual..... or a fill flash........ or a number of other methods to expose the subject properly......

As someone who occasionally photographs birds, I can say that's easier said than done (for me).

>EC
Yup, use it, and it definitely helps. It's harder in partly-cloudy skies with BIF because it throws off metering.

>manual
My 70D does not have M+EC. I hear that 80D does, and I may get that eventually. Again, manual is fine for stationary birds, but it's a challenge when they move.

>fill flash
I just recently bought a flash extender, but have not learned how to use it properly. First attempts were more humorous than anything.

I find that bird photography + proper exposure is more probabilistic than deterministic: I learn how to increase my odds of getting a proper exposure, but I'm always anxious when I have a fleeting opportunity to shoot without adjustment. Shadow lifting is a desirable quality, thought not enough to overwhelm the other considerations. Having clean shadow lifts would definitely save a few shots, though I don't think I could put a number on that.

Fill flash..... my efforts to date with small birds have been somewhat less than successful, but I have developed a wonderful technique to scare birds away from the feeder.....