Canon EOS R1 & Canon EOS R5 Mark II announcement coming July 17

Here’s to hoping it will be smarter camera generation as well!

DJI smartphone integration feels like EV vs 20 year old car when compared to Canon.

Bigger, much better rear screen!

Much longer battery life and more cycles.

Better charging from any odd USB-C source - not fun to have to use a 20W PD charger all the time and cannot - use a small power bank. maybe even usb-c on battery itself - there are aftermarket ones.

Bluetooth link with phone to get GPS on images.

Apple find my integration - 20$ license cost on a 4K device is nothing.

List of smart features goes on… canon will likely give us … none.

I’ll buy it for the dynamic range, fast sync speed and silent shutter. Anything else is likely a non-upgrade (compared to EOS R vs R5 esp)
DR is one of the most important aspects of sensor design for the subject matter I shoot. Since stacked sensors tend to result in reduced DR, I'm a little concerned that the DR will be worse on the R5 Mark II. Nikon's Z6 Mk III is exhibit A, though there are plenty of other examples starting with Sony's original A9.
 
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DR is one of the most important aspects of sensor design for the subject matter I shoot. Since stacked sensors tend to result in reduced DR, I'm a little concerned that the DR will be worse on the R5 Mark II. Nikon's Z6 Mk III is exhibit A, though there are plenty of other examples starting with Sony's original A9.
Here's a counter-example from Canon, R3 (stacked) vs. R8 (same MP, FSI) vs. R5 (higher MP, FSI). No differences worth mentioning.
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I'm still hoping they added GPS, but I'm guessing they don't since I haven't seen rumors about it.
The cooling vents and added cooling option are a great idea, and make me wonder about using the cooling option for astrophotography use. Maybe it would make some great photos for those that don't have a dedicated astrophotography setup. I wonder if they have added any code for sensor shifting to assist in astrophotography?
I also wonder if they'll still have the stupid 4 digit wrap around in their photo numbering system if you don't manually increase your folder number?
I've given up hoping they add aperture bracketing, but maybe they will one day.
Aperture and shutter speed bracketing would both be very useful and completely doable. I would use the latter all the time. I wish I could configure my camera to shoot a series of non-bracketed shots with every shutter button click. I would use that regularly too.
 
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I was only considering full frame (RF) lenses in my statement. Yes, the two RF-S lenses count as well. I seriously hope that Canon announces a couple additional full frame lenses with the cameras (1 lens for each camera being announced).
I would be surprised if they release any additional things alongside the two cameras. Releasing too many at once would dilute the messaging and these two cameras are already the most anticipated camera releases for a while now.

There is also precedent of Canon announcing a flagship camera without accompanying lenses: the 1DX, 1DX2, and 1DX3 are all standalone announcements. Announcing another camera alongside the flagship is already a deviation.
 
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Here’s to hoping it will be smarter camera generation as well!

DJI smartphone integration feels like EV vs 20 year old car when compared to Canon.

Bigger, much better rear screen!

Much longer battery life and more cycles.

Better charging from any odd USB-C source - not fun to have to use a 20W PD charger all the time and cannot - use a small power bank. maybe even usb-c on battery itself - there are aftermarket ones.

Bluetooth link with phone to get GPS on images.

Apple find my integration - 20$ license cost on a 4K device is nothing.

List of smart features goes on… canon will likely give us … none.

I’ll buy it for the dynamic range, fast sync speed and silent shutter. Anything else is likely a non-upgrade (compared to EOS R vs R5 esp)
You already have a BT link with phone to attach a gps data to the images enabled. Use Camera Connect app from Canon and it does that.
 
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My suspicion is that you'll need the cooling grip to access the 8k 50/60 option.
That is a reasonable hypothesis. Just to expand on it a bit. Another possibility is that with the grip one can have unlimited 8K60 recording, but without the grip there will be a thermal limitation to the 8K60 recording time. I will likely skip the cooling grip and just buy a normal grip for the R5 Mk2 (that is assuming that Canon manufactures two separate grips).
 
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I’ll probably (but not definitely) place a preorder. Then I’ll give careful consideration to what the R1 offers over my R3.

If rumors hold true the R5 II is going to eclipse the R3's AF speed, readout speed, and dynamic range. The only thing the R3 will have over the R5 is smaller file sizes, the multi-point control, which I love and will be sad not to have anymore, maybe built-in GPS. The R3 will have nothing over the R1, not even closely.

The R3 (new, not refurb) is only $500 more than the projected debut price of the R5 II. Add a grip to the R5 II and it's the same price or more than the R3. R3 is a dead model clicking. I've enjoyed mine but I'm prepared to send to off to KEH or MPB in the next few weeks while it still has some $ value. I've seen some rumors that the R3's sensor will be transferred eventually to the R6 III, maybe next year.
 
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Andrea's sources claim that there will be no 8K60P, and it looks like we differ in that regard. While we have been told that it would, but that there would be “caveats”, unfortunately there has been no articulation on what “caveats” means.
I wouldn't expect much detail on "caveats" with the July 17 announcement. That will need to wait until the user manual is posted, probably a couple of days before customer units start to ship in August.
 
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As a synthetic vision systems researcher, I definitely KNOW what it takes to sense, process and compress both stills and video at ultra high data rates. The ridiculously outdated ARM cores that Canon is using as it's DIGIC-X processors are simply NOT up to the task! You need Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 CPUs AT A MINIMUM in order to record DCI-8K at 60 fps (8192 by 4320 pixels at up to 16 bits per colour channel aka 64-bits per pixel of RGB/YCbCr + Alpha or Z-axis/Depth channel values.

Until Canon CHANGES its on-camera video processors to newer ones with much higher GPU processing bandwidth, the R1 or R5-mk2 will NOT be able to record 60 fps DCI-8K resolution video!

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