Canon EOS R5 firmware update [CR2]

Not every one wants a "Major" feature update. AF is AF. AF tracking isn't Major. Its pretty basic and rudimentary. Update the damn AF algorithms, update the code. They have to do it anyway when they add new lenses. They haven't invented some NEW photography feature. They merely have to modify a few lines of code. Not land a lunar spaceship on Mars.
A lunar (!) spaceship on Mars (!)...o_O
 
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I think the issue is that they stated to look out for some big updates to the firmware in Q3...did I imagine that? I love my R5, so no complaints, but I am almost positive they had said after that monster JPG firmware update that some other big things were cooking....so to effectively cancel that is disappointing.
 
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I think the issue is that they stated to look out for some big updates to the firmware in Q3...did I imagine that? I love my R5, so no complaints, but I am almost positive they had said after that monster JPG firmware update that some other big things were cooking....so to effectively cancel that is disappointing.
If by "they said" you mean whoever sent the rumor/tip into CR then yes, "they said" that.

If I tell you that you'll get a free 28-70/2 in the mail tomorrow, then you don't get it, will you be disappointed? I'd suggest considering anything other than a CR3 post here to have that level of reliability. And treat a CR3 post with the reliability of a statement that you might get a coupon in the mail tomorrow that's actually useful to you.
 
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Hard to say what percentage. But has been disappointing enough for such candid shots (while slowly walking) to opt for single-point or zone focusing with my new RF 28mm f2.8. You know, I had many cases of interrupted tracking of my subject which has been painful, but this is worse. Because despite having so many people in the frame it may focus so close or on infinity, which gives you a totally wrong focus zone.
And yes it was set to human.
It could be your lens. I haven't had many bad auto focus shots at 28mm while doing similar street scenes.... You could try and reset your settings...
 
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Back in March Canon released a major firmware update for the Canon EOS R5 with version 1.0.8.1, which added a ton of features including the 400mp IBIS high-resolution shooting mode. There was then a bunch of reports in regards to a new firmware coming in Q3 for the EOS R5 that would add further features.

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I think that just about seals it for me... this constant teasing is like a back street burlesque show... big on expectation, expensive to enter, but low on delivery. I dusted off a couple of old Sony bodies (very old, 10+ years) and I was amazed at how good they were... even has IBIS !, an articulated screen, intuitive menus, cleaver features and 14mp images in raw. Why did I ever switch to Canon ? Why did I invest in EF glass ? I am struggling to understand my kit choices back in those days. Well, Sony looks super cool now and the lens choices exceed and features pretty well match Canon these days. Who needs 8K video anyway with overheating and only 30 min record time ! ? Even 8K TV's are struggling to find a market. I therefore have 3 Canon bodies, lenses, batteries and assorted other bits for sale. Hello Sony, sorry ... I know it's been a long time, please forgive me.
 
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I think that just about seals it for me... this constant teasing is like a back street burlesque show... big on expectation, expensive to enter, but low on delivery. I dusted off a couple of old Sony bodies (very old, 10+ years) and I was amazed at how good they were... even has IBIS !, an articulated screen, intuitive menus, cleaver features and 14mp images in raw. Why did I ever switch to Canon ? Why did I invest in EF glass ? I am struggling to understand my kit choices back in those days. Well, Sony looks super cool now and the lens choices exceed and features pretty well match Canon these days. Who needs 8K video anyway with overheating and only 30 min record time ! ? Even 8K TV's are struggling to find a market. I therefore have 3 Canon bodies, lenses, batteries and assorted other bits for sale. Hello Sony, sorry ... I know it's been a long time, please forgive me.
I bet Sony's rumors are better too. :eek:
 
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There is absolutely no new photography hardware invented in the last 5 years for one to purchase a new high end mirrorless if one has one already, other than to upgrade the dinosaur basic CMOS to a modern stacked one. All other active imaging hardware components within the body are nearly identical. This is noted when viewing recent teardowns. Same stuff inside.
No. Just no. It is 100% reasonable to evaluate the value of moving to the new one though.
Just die/process shrinks for the chips leads to less heat & battery usage for the same result. In practice, that performance per watt is often spent on features instead. Right now we could use cooler running processors with more processing power to enable better computational photography (nicer object tracking, optional image processing tricks as with cell phones, live on view finder evaluation - lots of things you could do with 10x the processing power - including not use it to enjoy longer battery life)
All of that doesn't require a new 'feature' at all, just continuous firmware work as more capable chips arrive. Skip new bodies until the new one is worth it to you, but there is no need to deny the changes add up. I'm waiting on the R5 II to upgrade from a 5D IV for just that reason myself.
 
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Skip new bodies until the new one is worth it to you, but there is no need to deny the changes add up. I'm waiting on the R5 II to upgrade from a 5D IV for just that reason myself.
^^This.

It's why the 1D X remained my primary camera until the R3 came out. The 1D X II and III offered some nice features, but nothing so impactful as to make it worthwhile for me to switch. For me cost wasn't the issue, the 1D X was meeting my needs as well as I believed the 1D X II and III could so I saw no point in switching. I did buy an EOS R to try out mirrorless, took that and the RF 24-105/4L on a couple of trips (along with some EF lenses) and I saw some benefits that came to fruition in the R3.
 
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What percentage of shots do you get like that? Were you moving? Are you sure it's set to "human"?
I’m also curious what lens, if it’s in single shot, or a synchro tracking mode? Which “case” is it set to etc… I own the R5 and I’m blown away how fast it to lock onto a subject and how sticky it is. I think a lot of users aren’t completely familiar or practiced in all the settings and when to use which.
 
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Good upgrade, for me the step from the IV to the R5 was already worth it (better AF, finally eye AF instead of eyebrow AF, faster Wifi transfers).
Yes, the jump from IV to the R5 was a huge leap for Canon with a much better sensor and dramatically improved AF.
 
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I don't need a big firmware update. I get Canon wants to leave more advanced AF for a new hardware model and I don't blame them. That seems pretty standard. What I do want, and it shouldn't be gated behind new hardware because it requires no change, is the R6II sound settings. It is a tiny but annoying omission in the R5. I guess I'll just need to spend another $4000 to get it in the R5II. Anyone got more of that corporate bootlicker kool-aid? My cup's run dry.
 
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My thoughts:
1) Canon never said there would be major firmware updates to the R5. It was a RUMOR. Why do people continually treat a rumor as fact?
2) Can't say I know it's true or not, but watched a podcast recently where Nikon's Ricci and Adorama's Seth Miranda were discussing "things people don't understand, yet think they know on camera forums." Apparently, these two guys do have contacts within the camera industry. They said that any firmware update that adds significant features (as opposed to bug fixes) can take a YEAR OR MORE to develop and test before release.
3) We saw that most of the AF firmware updates that people are expecting in the R5 were not inplemented in the R6, but were features that came with the R6 II. If they had been added to the R6 via firmware, then there would have been almost nothing to differentiate the R6 from the R6 II. It seems possible that that wil be exactly the same story for the R5 II.
4) If so, then why would anyone expect Canon to add all these features scheduled for the R5 II, to be added to the R5 via firmware? Don't you think Canon wants to sell as many R5 II's as possible? Now, if the R5 II is significantly different than the R5, then maybe a big firmware update might come. But only if the R5 II has significant upgrades in other areas than AF.
5) I'm sure Canon knows that the number of folks who upgrade from one generation to the next of the same camera series is small. So comparing cameras from one generation to the next and expecting big things is unlikely.
 
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My standpoint:
Canon is doing a "good" job on firmware updates from my point of view and hopefully "acceptable" for others. Any features you get after a camera is released are a bonus. In general I'm happy to still be getting features. Whether incremental or major. Do we all get everything we want, of course not, but once again I'm grateful the improvements I have received. All of the updates I've received have corrected or enhanced function. Canon has also "stepped up" and quickly resolved any discrepancies. R5 v1.8.0 > v1.8.1, R5 C v1.4.0.1 > v1.0.5.1 are examples. I like to do body upgrades about every 5th year. There is no hard fast rule for me. I have the glass so I can be selective about when or what to buy next. No camera is ever perfect.
 
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I thought it unlikely that there would be any major feature updates to the R5 after 1.8. There are several things I would like to see from more recent Canon cameras, but I thought it more likely that they would be added to the R5 replacement instead based on the R6II precedent. Having worked on electronic hardware design and written software for real time applications in the past, you eventually run out of design headroom that software changes alone can't overcome.
 
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I believe giving up on R5 without a rather major update of especially object detection and tracking is a risky gamble. R5 is still the king of R series for many, and I really love so many things about it. But just look at this street photography example with the latest firmware on R5. I just wonder how on earth, with 4 faces in the frame, R5 face detection has picked that wall in the corner - a total disappointment for a street photographer who counts on the first moments of an encounter for a candid shot! I strongly believe if they want to maintain their historic good reputation, R5 matters a lot! And R5 mark I should not stay like this. After all, the moment that we decide to sell our R5 for a mark ii, we might as well switch to other brands.

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I run the same lens on R6 and no issue. I think it's more of a unlucky camera-firmware compatibility.

And I usually set the subject detection to Auto, Canons are smart enough to not manually switching subjects in AF setting.
 
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