Canon Interview: EOS R1 is the true flagship

[CJaurelius]

Yes, that's understandable.

The issue comes from a combination of innacurate logic and wishful thinking and when psyche surfing on this combo drifts from reality and gets to face reality it gets unhappy with the offset outside kindergarten for which the ego tends to blame someone else.

In reality R1 is a top of the line camera.




That would be irrational since R1 is superior in most aspects to R5II, and top of the line product.
I.e. flagship.



Problem in the heads cannot be solved by this. It would manifest in some other circus later. Problem is solvable by rational thought process.



No, the issue isn't "that Canon" anything. And no, Canon is not stuck in the past.

The issue is in irrational thought process which grows on ignorance, is fertilised by propaganda and fueled by narcissism.



Zero sense.

Canon has high megapixel cameras and top of the line, large pixel R1 for best performance/image quality combo.

The fact that many perceive higher pixel count/smaller pixel cameras as superior, conditioned by propaganda BS, is something else.

You can claim to be more enlightened than the masses, but were talking about regular people (who are mostly irrational) and the MARKETING of a camera.

If you think the R1 is a flagship camera then good for you. But that doesn't change the FACT that even the people that CANON PAID to come review their camera turned around and said it WASN'T a flagship camera. That's not good marketing.

Instead of the publicity around the camera talking about how good it is, people (even here on a pro Canon website) are debating whether or not their "flagship" is a true flagship.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Instead of the publicity around the camera talking about how good it is, people (even here on a pro Canon website) are debating whether or not their "flagship" is a true flagship.

Yes, just like in some places on the internet people 'debate' whether or not the earth is (roughly) spherical or flat. Just like that, there's a right answer and a wrong answer regarding the R1. It's just that some people aren't being rational about it.

 

[CJaurelius]

Yes, just like in some places on the internet people 'debate' whether or not the earth is (roughly) spherical or flat. Just like that, there's a right answer and a wrong answer regarding the R1. It's just that some people aren't being rational about it.

You're comparing something the like the earth being round or flat which is 100% objective, to whether or not the people "feel" that the R1 is a "flagship" which is SUBJECTIVE.

Canon calls the R1 their flagship. No on disputes this as it is 100% objectively true that they MARKET it as their flagship. People's opinion on whether or not the actually believe the camera to be a true flagship in their eyes is a subjective opinion that everyone is entitled too whether they are being rational (by your standards) or not.

And again from a MARKETING perspective this seems to be a blunder when they have to actually defend whether their flagship cameras is even worthy of the title.

 

[neuroanatomist]

You're comparing something the like the earth being round or flat which is 100% objective, to whether or not the people "feel" that the R1 is a "flagship" which is SUBJECTIVE.

Canon calls the R1 their flagship. No on disputes this as it is 100% objectively true that they MARKET it as their flagship. People's opinion on whether or not the actually believe the camera to be a true flagship in their eyes is a subjective opinion that everyone is entitled too whether they are being rational (by your standards) or not.

And again from a MARKETING perspective this seems to be a blunder when they have to actually defend whether their flagship cameras is even worthy of the title.

You're welcome to your opinion. It's analogous to people believing that the R3 was supposed to be called the R1, or that the R5II doesn't have enough MP, or anything else camera-related about which people choose to opine.

As you state, Canon calls the R1 their flagship. They make their cameras, they get to choose their designations. Nothing subjective about that. The R1 objectively IS the flagship. If you or anyone else choose to believe that it isn't, or that it's pink, or that it's really a blender instead of a camera, you are free to do so.

The people who are irrelevantly ‘debating’ its status as a flagship are not the target market anyway. I suppose it could be considered a marketing blunder if the camera doesn't meet its sales target. No one here knows if that will happen, and we will probably never find out.

It should go without saying, but in this forum apparently it can't...what matters is Canon's sales target, not how many cameras you think they should be selling, or what some random blogger or YouTuber says about how he, “Talked to a couple of unnamed retailers and heard that preorders are lower than whoever they talked to expected…and please hit the Like and Subscribe buttons while you're here,” (which is the whole reason I post stuff anyway).

 

[Omn]

You can claim to be more enlightened than the masses, but were talking about regular people (who are mostly irrational) and the MARKETING of a camera.

We are talking about cognitive dissonance emerging from the lack of distinction between fantasy and reality. There is a clinical definiton for this issue.

If you think the R1 is a flagship camera then good for you.

R1 is a flagship camera regardless of someone's thinking. See above.

One may think it's a banana or identify as a hydrant, it will still be a flagship camera.

With 24Mp.

But that doesn't change the FACT that even the people that CANON PAID to come review their camera turned around and said it WASN'T a flagship camera.

Addressed above.

They don't get to proclaim or negate meaning of the words or product positionings, regardless of the narcissistic feeling of self-importance inflated by views/likes.

I'm picturing Canon engineering team after years of r&d doing facepalms when seeing delusional smartass reactions like these.

Instead of the publicity around the camera talking about how good it is, people (even here on a pro Canon website) are debating whether or not their "flagship" is a true flagship.

First world problems.
People debate all sorts of nonsense.
It won't make top of the line camera stop being top of the line camera.

Doubt is important in times of mass deceipt, unless wasted on trivial nonsense. Sign of intelligence when used propelry, when improperly, sign of stupidity/mental decline.

 

[Omn]

You're comparing something the like the earth being round or flat which is 100% objective, to whether or not the people "feel" that the R1 is a "flagship" which is SUBJECTIVE.

His analogy is logically valid since Earth (capital letter) will be a spheroid regardles of mass idiotization psy ops resulting in some highly confused physics-challenged people fantasizing a pancake floating in space.

Those who made the camera, knowing what they made, spending some millions and years in making it told you it is their flagship. Which can also be concluded by simple accurate logic.

Yes, delusional issues are subjective, that is correct. No point in wasting time on these here though, since this is not a psychiatry forum.

 

[Omn]

The people who are irrelevantly ‘debating’ its status as a flagship are not the target market anyway.

Exactly.

I can't imagine any serious professional photographer coming from 1DXIII to R1 being bothered with this nonsense.