Canon officially announces the Canon EOS R6 Mark II, Canon RF 135mm f/1.8L IS USM and Canon Speedlite EL-5

[Marco Birri]

I don't think cars are a good analogy at all - cars have engines, suspension, bearings etc that wear out. Cameras are largely solid state electronics and its very rare for anything to wear out. Either they work or they're DOA. Long warranties give peace of mind, but their value is psychological rather than actual. The only "warranty" of any real value is the (typically) 14 day "no questions asked" return and refund policy (which is a legal requirement in most countries, not a warranty).

R6 hot shoe?

 

[navastronia]

Out of curiosity , what would you shoot at 1/16000?

Funny this should question should arise in another thread in response to me saying this.

I mentioned 3 weeks ago about a job I did at the beach, on a very bright morning, where it would have been advantageous to shoot wide open with wide aperture primes. I/16000 would have helped me.

 

[Blue Zurich]

Just read Bryan C.'s pre production review for the lens. That was enough to wishlist it at B&H. I'm a 135L guy to the core, owned multiple copies of the OG since it's launch. this is really the only piece of the RF family missing for what I do and love. No more adapting. (not that that was a bad thing)

Thanks Canon!

 

[entoman]

I wouldn’t call the freezing a main issue since it’s not affecting all the R5’s must’ve been a bad batch # I’ve yet to experience it.

Yes, could have been a bad batch (like mine) but could also be due to certain combinations of settings causing software conflicts. There are literally tens of thousands of permutations of custom button settings and it's possible that some combinations could be driving freezes.

 

[entoman]

R6 hot shoe?

I'd call that bad design rather than wear and tear - big flash units just place too much leverage on the shoe.

I've found problems even with small flashguns (270EXii and 430EXiii RT) when fitted to various Canon bodies that I've owned including 6D, 5DS, 5DMkiv and R5 - they occasionally become slightly unseated - just by enough to move the contacts enough to cause the flash to fire at full power instead of a TTL-controlled exposure.

 

[AccipiterQ]

Just read Bryan C.'s pre production review for the lens. That was enough to wishlist it at B&H. I'm a 135L guy to the core, owned multiple copies of the OG since it's launch. this is really the only piece of the RF family missing for what I do and love. No more adapting. (not that that was a bad thing)

Thanks Canon!

Is this a lens you use for portraiture / indoor sports?

 

[AlanF]

Prior to Brexit , Canon Europe set the prices across the EU including the UK, and any differences in prices between the various EU countries would have been the result of local taxes (VAT, purchase taxes).

I don't claim to be fully familiar with the facts, but I'd assume that the high UK prices were due to our tax laws. Canon Europe would presumably have set the prices on the basis of what they thought the market would tolerate.

What happens to VAT on luxury/leisure goods in the current economic climate is anyone's guess, but it's unlikely to be good news.

The moral of this story is simple - buy grey market and don't worry about worthless warranties - a policy which I think you also adopt.

Nothing to do with our tax laws - apart from slight variations in VAT%. As I have posted every time this comes up, Sony and Nikon don't usually have these large mark-ups in the UK. I recall that Norway has similar problems. I do buy grey imports but I much prefer to buy from WEX as they have a no-hassle return policy.

 

[Blue Zurich]

Is this a lens you use for portraiture / indoor sports?

On occasion but primarily for compressed landscape and abstraction

 

[Ian K]

Wow I hear you, maybe it's cheaper to fly to New York. Do they hit you for VAT when you re-enter the Country?

Yes, they would charge you VAT for an import of that price. You're allowed something like £135 on entry to the country.

According to current prices for the 135L our price is only about £130 more than the US price, by simple exchange rate. That is likely accounted for by import duties.

 

[SteveC]

or 180,000/s in the new Fuji XT body?

Photons in flight.

 

[Del Paso]

There is nothing free.... I’m paying each month 220-250€ for healthcare. And there are many private healthcare things to pay separate! Don’t believe this „free“ shit!

To the camera...
Still has heavy rolling shutter... HEAVY disappointment!!
My RP has it, my 10 month old R6 has it, my 2 months old R7 has it....
Many new cameras since end of 2019....
I wouldn’t buy another one for 3.000€ WITH annoying rolling shutter!!!

The burst mode is useless with rolling shutter!!! I see this at the R7 for birds at the start of flying... looks horrible!!

How much would a cancer treatment, a heart transplant cost ?
Euro 250 a month looks like a huge bargain...in case you need expensive health care.
But you're right, there is a monthly payment.

 

[dlee13]

You may be directing your complaint at the wrong source - I believe that the prices are not dictated by Canon the manufacturer, but rather by the distributor in Australia, i.e. Canon Australia.

Well Canon Australia is still Canon though right? Not like it’s some third party distributor… We might actually be better off with one since Sigma use one and their prices are cheaper than the US ones.

 

[Cyborx]

Nice, almost 3000 euro’s instead of the 2499 dollars in the US. Nice work Canon! Thank you!

 

[Cyborx]

We

This Camera is amazing. It’s really what the R5C firmware should have been.

Bump in mp and resolving
6k
False color
Focus breathing correction
40 fps (won’t be using this)
Fast photo video switch
No crop
Raw output
New autofocus
Subject detection
No overheating
Auto webcam through usb
Updated joy stick
Updated Hot shoe
Better battery
Bracketing
Digital converter
Face only af
Pre record
Flicker reduction

Anyone complaining about this release is missing the point. It’s not about the specs specifically even though there are spec bumps, this camera is such an improvement with regards to usability.

We’re not complaining about this camera, we’re complaining about the insane price difference between US and Europe.

 

[Cyborx]

If this is how they upgrade the R5, I'll just be waiting for the R1. Phoning that crap in. It's been 2 years. C'mon

Agreed! The CMOS sensor is outdated!
Turn your R6 to silent mode and start shooting an event with LED and beamers, absolute HORROR output.

 

[BurningPlatform]

Nice, almost 3000 euro’s instead of the 2499 dollars in the US. Nice work Canon! Thank you!

Well, as said many times, U.S. prices do not include VAT. 2499 $ + 20 % VAT is 3189 EUR. It is cheaper in Europe,

 

[tomislavmoze]

Nice, almost 3000 euro’s instead of the 2499 dollars in the US. Nice work Canon! Thank you!

In Croatia if you remove 25% vat the price is 2440euros which is less than the USA price...if you own a business in that case it is cheaper to buy it in Europe.

 

[Bonich]

Well, as said many times, U.S. prices do not include VAT. 2499 $ + 20 % VAT is 3189 $. It is cheaper in Europe,

Oh box, this makes sense:

US prices 135 1.8: Sony GM: $2099 vs Canon RF $2099
European prices:135 1.8: Sony GM: $1679 vs Canon RF $2699

 

[Kit.]

European prices:135 1.8: Sony GM: $1679

1579 €, actually, if you count the "Winter Cashback" (100 €).

 

[tomislavmoze]

Oh box, this makes sense:

US prices 135 1.8: Sony GM: $2099 vs Canon RF $2099
European prices:135 1.8: Sony GM: $1679 vs Canon RF $2699

in Croatia RF135 1.8 is 2215$ without tax, I guess the camera body is cheaper but the lenses are not... although Canon offers a lot of cash backs and promotions to lower the price. Last month they had great discounts if you bring an old lens depending on the weight of it you could get 15/20/25% discount... So you could get a really good discount giving old cheap and heavy manual lenses.