Canon to announce 5 new lenses on October 30

[vikingar]

I'm coming from an Intel i9 </snip>

You will be blown away by how quiet and fast the M chips are. I use an M1 at home and it just screams performance, but is totally quiet. M4 will be even better.

My Intel MBPs were never as quiet and a lot slower. And my much newer high end Windows "workstation" laptop for work runs hotter, louder, yet feels slower.

 

[Canon Rumors]

You will be blown away by how quiet and fast the M chips are. I use an M1 at home and it just screams performance, but is totally quiet. M4 will be even better.

My Intel MBPs were never as quiet and a lot slower. And my much newer high end Windows "workstation" laptop for work runs hotter, louder, yet feels slower.

It's probably throttling. Open it up and redo the thermals. You'll likely get a performance boost. Fujipoly makes top notch thermal pads. My i9 laptop dropped 15c at max load and never throttles when the ambient temperature is below 25c.

 

[tiggy@mac.com]

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Canon, where are my TS-R lenses?

I'm hoping, along with Neuro, for the tilt-shifts.

On the computer stuff... I had a Florida company boost my M1 laptop a bit crazily with RAM, storage, etc. I wouldn't do it again because the heat envelope that once seemed so utterly calm and ready to take on big loads instantly evaporated. My laptop now runs hotter, and the battery can be slurped up in just 2-3 hours when doing hard work, so I keep it plugged in mostly.

It saved me a couple grand versus using Apple's upgrade options, but in retrospect, their options seem deliberately specced to stay reasonable for power/heat constraints. Having Lightroom ingest 3,000 shots of otters in the background while I'm doing "work work" in the foreground makes it too hot to place on my lap, which is really notable for an Apple M chip.

 

[tiggy@mac.com]

As a wedding videographer, the 24/1.4 VCM and 50/1.4 VCM are intriguing for my gimbal work.

As a wedding photographer, I'm still tearing my hair out wondering if I should go ahead and buy the (now old-ish) 28-70/2.0 or wait for them to announce a successor given it's been 6 years.

6 years isn't close to a Canon lens refresh cycle. The 70-200 instance coming is a rare exception that has more to do with addressing the video market than a "refreshing" of their first RF 70-200. As for the 28-70 - one of my favorite lenses - this isn't going to get the video treatment. They'd do it to the 24-70 f/2.8 instead. The use case for video at f/2 versus f/2.8 is as narrow as its depth-of-focus.

 

[Canon Rumors]

As a wedding videographer, the 24/1.4 VCM and 50/1.4 VCM are intriguing for my gimbal work.

As a wedding photographer, I'm still tearing my hair out wondering if I should go ahead and buy the (now old-ish) 28-70/2.0 or wait for them to announce a successor given it's been 6 years.

I don't think we're close to any version II RF lenses. It'll be interesting to see if we're going to get VCM zooms.

If you're in the US, wait for November and buy a refurb 28-70, it'll probably see a big discount. There's not much they could do to make it better outside of weight reduction. It's the best standard range zoom ever made.

 

[alFR]

On the computer stuff... I had a Florida company boost my M1 laptop a bit crazily with RAM, storage, etc. I wouldn't do it again because the heat envelope that once seemed so utterly calm and ready to take on big loads instantly evaporated. My laptop now runs hotter, and the battery can be slurped up in just 2-3 hours when doing hard work, so I keep it plugged in mostly.

AFAIK it's not possible to upgrade the RAM on an Apple Silicon processor because the M series chips have unified memory so the RAM is on the die, so how on earth did they upgrade the RAM? I agree you can swap the SSDs (although they are soldered onto the logic board so it's a non-trivial task and it instantly voids your warranty).

 

[Canon Rumors]

AFAIK it's not possible to upgrade the RAM on an Apple Silicon processor because the M series chips have unified memory so the RAM is on the die, so how on earth did they upgrade the RAM? I agree you can swap the SSDs (although they are soldered onto the logic board so it's a non-trivial task and it instantly voids your warranty).

The soldering of SSDs is bonkers, is right to repair going to change that? Some Apple SSD's are painfully slow. Though I think their fastest is still only around 6500MB/s.

 

[roby17269]

35 1.4 was just released. Don't think we are going to see an 1.2 version for years, if ever.

One can hope against hope.... but hey, we're going to get a 50 1.4 even if we have a 50 1.2 already, so it is not impossible

 

[Canon Rumors]

One can hope against hope.... but hey, we're going to get a 50 1.4 even if we have a 50 1.2 already, so it is not impossible

Keep hope alive

 

[koenkooi]

The soldering of SSDs is bonkers, is right to repair going to change that? [...]

That depends on how the laws will be worded, there are a lot of ways that a replacement won't work even if you have the 'right' to repair it:

• Verification, the OS needs to accept the part, like on iPhones where you need to call Apple to activate a replacement part.
• Calibration, the OS needs extra information to make it work properly, the simple example is old style touchscreens, modern examples are PCIe 4/5 lanes/redrivers/retimers
• Compatibility, if your new device behaves differently, the OS won't know how to handle it

Ideally, you only have to watch out for compatibility, not for the other things. Reports on the internet imply that for laptops and desktops, verification isn't the problem, but calibration is.
I hope this changes, since flash will die, being able to replace it is not only cheaper, but it also avoids creating more e-waste.

 

[Canon Rumors]

That depends on how the laws will be worded, there are a lot of ways that a replacement won't work even if you have the 'right' to repair it:

• Verification, the OS needs to accept the part, like on iPhones where you need to call Apple to activate a replacement part.
• Calibration, the OS needs extra information to make it work properly, the simple example is old style touchscreens, modern examples are PCIe 4/5 lanes/redrivers/retimers
• Compatibility, if your new device behaves differently, the OS won't know how to handle it

Ideally, you only have to watch out for compatibility, not for the other things. Reports on the internet imply that for laptops and desktops, verification isn't the problem, but calibration is.
I hope this changes, since flash will die, being able to replace it is not only cheaper, but it also avoids creating more e-waste.

Great info, thank you.

I hope it changes across the industry. Lenovo and Microsoft seem to have prioritized user repairability.

 

[roby17269]

Keep hope alive

Always!

 

[neuroanatomist]

You will be blown away by how quiet and fast the M chips are. I use an M1 at home and it just screams performance, but is totally quiet. M4 will be even better.

My work Mac is a 16” MBP with an M1 Pro chip, the fans are almost always off. The reported concern is that, unlike the M1/M2 Max chips and all of the Pro variants, the M3 Max chips get hot enough under load to require high levels of fan cooling (and thermal throttling, as @Canon Rumors Guy mentions).

Having said that, I strongly suspect the M4 Max won’t have the fan issue, at least not to the same degree. Apple tends to be pretty responsive to things like that (unlike some other manufacturers that are perhaps more relevant in the context of this forum ). Case in point, when going from the M1 to the M2, the base storage configuration used fewer NAND chips (one instead of two) and as a result the SSD read/write was slower on the M2 than the M1. The M3 base storage rectified that issue with a return to splitting the SSD across two chips.

I've read that the M4 vs M3 performance boost is not that big (there's a reason Apple compares the M4 to the M1 and Intel Macs), and I've also read the M4 has better thermal management...assuming there's more improvement on the thermal side than the performance side, that looks like the right direction for the fans.

Either way, decision time is getting close....

 

[GMCPhotographics]

The standard 1.4 and 2x extenders are on an approximate 10 year cycle based on EF and RF release cycles (EF I: 1987, EF II: 2001, EF III: 2011, RF: 2020), so I would be surprised to see any before 2028 or so.

I am also not sure the zoomable extender is coming anytime soon, but maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.

The current RF teleconerters are very restrictive in their physical design. I really think Canon would be better making a new range of teleconvters that work with more lenses.

 

[neuroanatomist]

The current RF teleconerters are very restrictive in their physical design. I really think Canon would be better making a new range of teleconvters that work with more lenses.

I don't see a technical reason they can't make them compatible with all lenses, by simply extending the mount forward to be flush with the protruding elements (i.e., a design similar to 3rd party TCs):



But...they haven't. That suggests that the reason for the restrictive design is not technical, but rather is a strategy to increase sales of longer lenses (e.g. buy a 70-200 instead of putting an extender behind a 24-105). Or one could be charitable and suggest that the optical performance of a TC combined with a standard zoom is not ideal and Canon wants you to have the better IQ of the longer lens (but then, that charity rather fails since the TCs work very well behind the wide TS-E lenses).

 

[KF]

It is not a prime. I think I'll have it nailed in the next 3 to 4 hours. This stuff is oddly fun for me. I'm not sure if that's a good thing.

Still no news….. ?

 

[Canon Rumors]

Still no news….. ?

No one will budge haha! This is a rare miss on a big product.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Either way, decision time is getting close....

Well, they announced the Mac Mini. Personally, I want that about as badly as I want the R100. Probably means the MacBook Pros will come tomorrow.

Maybe Amazon will leak the specs early like they did for the Mini.

 

[Canon Rumors]

Well, they announced the Mac Mini. Personally, I want that about as badly as I want the R100. Probably means the MacBook Pros will come tomorrow.

Maybe Amazon will leak the specs early like they did for the Mini.

That thing sure is mini

 

[neuroanatomist]

That thing sure is mini

Yes, it's cute. Like the R50, I could probably find a use for it, but it would be rare. My home desk setup is a dock with a 5K:2K display, keyboard/trackpad, etc., so it would be simple to use a Mini as a 'home computer'. Except all 5 of the people in the house have their own laptops (and they can just connect to that dock anyway). So like the R50, there's not much point for me.