Canon USA Announces Canon Log Feature Upgrade for the EOS 5D Mark IV

CanonGrunt said:
Notes about Image Quality with Canon Log:

When Canon Log is set, horizontal noise stripes may appear in movies depending on subject or shooting conditions. From Canon: "It is recommended to shoot a few test movies and check before the actual shooting. Note that noise may become more noticeable especially when you apply strong contrast during color grading of the shot movie.

Horizontal noise stripes tend to appear when the subject is dark and flat or [Peripheral illum.] is set to [Enable]. This noise may also appear when ISO speed is relatively low, such as at ISO 400.

When the noise is noticeable, it is recommended to set [Peripheral illum.] to [Disable], shoot in brighter exposure, and perform brightness adjustment during color grading. Also, noise may be decreased when you shoot at ISO speed lower than ISO 400 (even though the dynamic range will be narrowed)."

Is this a standard issue with LOG, or just the 5D IV? I don't remember ever having trouble on the c100's and c300's with this issue...

I think they are just pointing out that if you're asking too much from the sensor, you should expect to see read noise.
 
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Canon Rumors said:
After all these years, I still get burned on misinformation from time to time, though a lot less than at the beginning. I should have stopped at the C-Log.

When you're right, no on says anything. When you're wrong..... omg! The hate emails have started already :P

For the record, The EF 85mm f/1.4L IS is real and will be coming in a few months (along with the 6D2)!

Well...I think you have, and are running, a great website! And I for one, would encourage all the posters inclined to vitriol aimed at you, to take a deep breath and slowly reread the name of this site, out loud to themselves. And perform this simple task a couple of times. Then apply their powers of reason and logic to what "announcements" at this site are. And you do try, rather well I feel, to assign a level of credibility to any given RUMOR.
 
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bsbeamer said:
Canon Rumors said:
The way it came to us was generally the way real stuff comes, so this is a head scratcher.

There is no "5DC" coming in 2017... beyond that, who knows.

I'm wondering what else Canon has up their sleeve for NAB this year. Too bad no 5DC, with that rumored spec list for around $3750-$4000 USD would probably sell really well.

EF 135mm f/1.8L IS and an 84mm f/1.4L an a 50mm f/1.4L
 
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Matthew19 said:
Why does C-log lose highlights detail? Check out the lines in the building that are there in the neutral shot and lost in clog.

That's C-Log after a very harsh and poor grade (seriously horrible grading in their video). But my guess is that C-Log has less in-camera sharpening than all the other profiles to ensure the lowest amount of sharpening related artifacts. I think something other than a compressed youtube screenshot is needed to know for sure if there is recoverable detail in the file, or if C-Log really wasn't able to capture it.
 
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The rumor was always obviously fake. It was akin to a firmware update doubling the amount of focus points and adding 5 fps to an existing stills camera - just not happening ;)

Canon Rumors said:
I'll be passing videography based rumors through a couple of people before they hit the site. Part of it in this case might be my ignorance to video features. I am and will always be a stills guy.

Let me know if you need a video guy ;)
 
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neuroanatomist said:
RayValdez360 said:
Let's see someone defend this nonsense. sony is 1 or 2 cameras away from stomping CANON in every aspect but service.

Oh...and sales. ::) ::) ::)

He also forgot....

Video AF
Build quality
Ergonomics
Video touchscreen AF
Color science
Menu structure
Weather sealing
Reliability and heat management

I'm a wedding filmmaker for a living and I have never seen a photog using anything other than Canon/Nikon. Seen a handful shooting film on a Leica or Contax MF, but not a single Sony. Also never seen a Sony in the hands of anyone at an event with a media pass. Sony's seem to be popular with prosumers/enthusiasts. Maybe the A9 will finally introduce Sony to the professional crowd, but that's a TALL mountain to climb and they're just getting started. Still, Canon needs to respond and compete; they need to get the camera and tech nerds excited like Sony is doing.

I will say a lot of my videographer colleagues use Sony, though....
 
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Surely this must also be coming to the 1DX MkII? But if so, then why not announce it at the same time? It would be crazy for the 5D MkIV to have C-Log and not the 1DX MkII. I use the 1DX MkII as a B cam for my C300 MkII - do I need to sell it to downgrade to a 5D MkIV just so I can have a B cam with C-Log? Very confused... I would have thought if they were going to bring C-Log to the 1DX MkII then they would have announced it at the same time, so if they aren't going to, then what possible reason/explanation is there?
 
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rrcphoto said:
Canon Rumors said:
After all these years, I still get burned on misinformation from time to time, though a lot less than at the beginning. I should have stopped at the C-Log.

When you're right, no on says anything. When you're wrong..... omg! The hate emails have started already :P

For the record, The EF 85mm f/1.4L IS is real and will be coming in a few months (along with the 6D2)!

I'm sure canon is receiving some hate emails too.. i noticed some on dpreview stating it as fact yesterday. lol.

it was a pretty amazing rumor though. the dude spent alot of time on it.

maybe it has been discussed and bandied about.. do you remember how fare back the C700 specs were?

or it could be a mythical beast called a 5DC.. that canon will upgrade 5D Mark IV's into for a fee.

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For the kicker, those C700 specs that came out OVER A YEAR BEFORE the actual release, I thought came pretty close to the actual camera other than the different form factor. (i.e. Remember that massive brochure on the very C500-like C700x? - the pages are STILL on Google Images and they are darn close to being spot on with the real C700 camera in terms of specs!)

I'm gonna say that SOMEBODY knows more than they're letting on ...SOOOOO.... don't be too surprised to see a Full Frame Mirrorless Canon Camera any day now or even a large-sensor Medium Format Canon Camera in the near future (i.e. within two years!).
 
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Matt Williams said:
Surely this must also be coming to the 1DX MkII? But if so, then why not announce it at the same time? It would be crazy for the 5D MkIV to have C-Log and not the 1DX MkII. I use the 1DX MkII as a B cam for my C300 MkII - do I need to sell it to downgrade to a 5D MkIV just so I can have a B cam with C-Log? Very confused... I would have thought if they were going to bring C-Log to the 1DX MkII then they would have announced it at the same time, so if they aren't going to, then what possible reason/explanation is there?

I hope it is coming. And assuming the 1dx2 is a bigger machine (think of heat dissipation) with more processing power it may not require any kind of hardware upgrade. I'm fine to pay a $100 or $200 for a firmware update also. Need to start a petition... ;) Really don't care about the fancy codecs but a real C-log would be so nice to have.
 
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Matt Williams said:
Surely this must also be coming to the 1DX MkII? But if so, then why not announce it at the same time? It would be crazy for the 5D MkIV to have C-Log and not the 1DX MkII. I use the 1DX MkII as a B cam for my C300 MkII - do I need to sell it to downgrade to a 5D MkIV just so I can have a B cam with C-Log? Very confused... I would have thought if they were going to bring C-Log to the 1DX MkII then they would have announced it at the same time, so if they aren't going to, then what possible reason/explanation is there?

I'm with you on this. So the question is what do we do about it. For what it's worth I say contact Canon, and I will. I've done this a few times and seemed positively received.

Jack
 
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Matt Williams said:
Surely this must also be coming to the 1DX MkII? But if so, then why not announce it at the same time? It would be crazy for the 5D MkIV to have C-Log and not the 1DX MkII. I use the 1DX MkII as a B cam for my C300 MkII - do I need to sell it to downgrade to a 5D MkIV just so I can have a B cam with C-Log? Very confused... I would have thought if they were going to bring C-Log to the 1DX MkII then they would have announced it at the same time, so if they aren't going to, then what possible reason/explanation is there?

I believe in the last product refresh cycle, after the 5D3 got clean hdmi via a firmware update, users were expecting the same update to the 1dx, but it never came and many users were frustrated. This might be the same case this time around.

Although I was really hoping for XF-AVC as it would make the camera immensely more versatile for simpler projects and run-n-gun/same day edit work, I intend to upgrade my body to get C-LOG nonetheless. At the very least, it opens up the camera's versatility as a b-cam for my other systems given than I'm stuck with MJPEG.
 
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