Here are the first images and specifications of the Canon EOS R and the new RF mount lenses

[Ditboy]

Liking the layout. The adoption of the M5's quick control dial with the selector button is very nice. Hope the customization goes way beyond that of the M5. If there is a M5 Mark II on the way I hope it has the same controls.

 

[psolberg]

I wonder if they have built-in circular polarizers

I hope not. not everybody wants a damn polarizer in the way. specially not at night.

 

[tmroper]

Looks perfect to me, both the specs and the form factor (reminds me of the EOS 3--the pictures I've seen anyway, never owned one). 30MP hits the sweet spot for me, and a 24-105, 35, and 50 work perfect for me to get started (I still use the very first L lens I got, the orginal 24-105, a lot). Hope everything's actually good, and worth the wait (I've come very close to buying a Sony, but balked at the lenses).

 

[Ditboy]

Oh my, it is aesthetically eve than M5. The proportions are terrible - cut on the right side


... yes, there is a finger space, but it made the camera look a bit out of proportions (unpleasant) imo. Too much space on the left side, when compared with the right side - looks like immediately cut right after the lens. Also tall. Well, FF needs some size proportions, but I also want to like my camera aestheticall and it looks a bi weird. Hopefully it grows on me over time.

I also wonder about AF points selection controls - the likes of joystick, AF selection butoon, scroll-wheel. The images are small, but does it look like a scroll wheel there, or more a Rebel xy-way buttons?

We've got 5DIV in January, so will have to think about. Wanted to replace 70D with some small/cute companion for a street photography. Will wait for the M5/M6 II. EOS R, on the other side, with the price-tag and its specs - I wonder, where's the catch, as for 1900$, if right, looks like it could eat the 5DIV sales?

I will kill 6D II sales. Better not try one out. Once you go mirrorless, you'll never want to pick up a DSLR again. Unless I'm shooting long lens sports, I choose the M5 over 80D or 7D II most of the time. The EVF is so consistent and you get to see what your exposure actually looks like. No chimping required! And when shooting in dark places or after the sun goes down there is no better option.

 

[David Littleboy]

Sony is doomed.

Only if the price is under US$2,000 and it has IBIS. For somewhat less than US$3,000, the A7riii is looking real nice: 30MP simply isn't enough of a jump over the M5's 24, but 47MP is. And the fun Cosina lenses (40/1.2, Loxia 21/2.8, 10/12/15mm Heliars, etc.) will just work. And if the new Canon 24-105/4.0 is as nice as I hope, an adaptor might appear. Years from now, if Canon persuades Cosina to come out with it's fun lenses in an R-mount, and a high-res body comes out, things might be different here.

 

[Ditboy]

I hope not. not everybody wants a damn polarizer in the way. specially not at night.

Looks like the EF-EF-R adaptor has a version for drop in filters. Compare the cost of say a 52mm filter to an 82mm. If you lots of filters the drop in will be worth the $$$

 

[goldenhusky]

Has the $1900 price been confirmed or is it just from last weeks rumors?

$1900 is not even a rumor. Should I say wishful thinking of people? I would be pleasantly surprised if Canon priced this <$2k mark.

 

[Ditboy]

I'm thinking we gotta have IBIS here and while I'm hoping for Cfast2, I'm pretty sure I ain't gonna get it. I haven't used SD cards in a while, but if the newer ones can keep up with the read/write speeds, I'm good with that. I just prefer a more robust card (structurally) SD cards make me too nervous with their small size and generally flimsy nature

I bet that toggle with <> arrows replaces the quick control dial on the back. It also has the quick control wheel with selector button from the M5.

 

[goldenhusky]

I hope not. not everybody wants a damn polarizer in the way. specially not at night.

There are 3 adapters. one without any filter, second with CPL and a third with drop in filters. You can pick and choose what you like. It is a smart move indeed but I wonder why the one with drop in filter cannot be used with no filters inside? If that is possible what is the need for an adapter without any filters? Dust and drip proof may be?

 

[Dvash7]

I sold all my Canon lenses except the 24-70 f/2.8 in anticipation of a FF mirrorless with no adapters.
I'm not feeling the 28-70, 28 just isn't good enough, and I don't need f/2.
Now with the confirmed adapters my last hopes are on IBIS.
If it also has no IBIS, combined with those adapters and the native 28-70, I'm just getting an A7iii.
It just wouldn't tick the right boxes for me...

 

[RGF]

I did not see anything about FPS nor if AF speed is the same w/ R lenses vs EF lenses

 

[Ditboy]

Doesn't appear to have a joystick to move the focus points. I'm surprised they would leave that out.

Also, given those specs, does anyone else think this may be the "high-end" model? It almost sounds too good to be true for a $1900 camera from Canon.

It might use the touch screen to move the focus points like the M5 does.

 

[ahsanford]

I will kill 6D II sales.

Not if it costs $2500+. We don't know the price and we don't know major subsystem information -- IBIS, battery life with all the EVF bells / whistles on, memory cards, etc.

Remember the prior rumor said $1900 for a 28 MP camera. That rumor got the sensor wrong -- what makes you think they got the price right?

- A

 

[goldenhusky]

I wish we could get some higher res pix. I hope it has custom shooting modes. If this is under $2000, then yeah, I'm pretty much sold. I've been on the lowkey lookout for an updated second-body.

Yep I too wish there were better pictures. While I think this is the low end FF MILC I guess this will not be less than $2000. On the custom shooting mode I can only guess they will be there. It sounds like Canon made all dials in a way that they can be customized. Obvioulsy I am just guessing that because I do not see any marking on those dials. We will have to wait and see.

 

[Ditboy]

Is that an effective way to move the focus points? I haven't used any EOS M cameras.

I have big hands and the M5 is very small, but given a decent sized body, it would work well. You can pick which quadrant you want to use. You can move the focus point with your thump while up to your eye. Think mouse vs joy stick. Very natural.

 

[Antono Refa]

The 28-70/2.0 does not look too big.

The lens diameter is twice the mount diameter, or ~100mm. That's thicker than the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM.

 

[vjlex]

I wonder if this foreshadows the elimination of the EOS-M line. If they're putting all their energy into the R line, it seems like it might make sense for APS-C mirrorless moving forward to be R-mount as well. It seems like there are already almost as many R lenses as their are M.

 

[Ditboy]

Yeah, I'm a bit stumped by that as well. The only possible thing I can think of is a zoom switch for a powered zoom lens like the EF-S 18-135 USM with Power Zoom Adapter PZ-E1. Canon also has a Cinema EOS lens or two with power zoom.

Probably replaces the quick command dial on the back. Left-right, up-down, clockwise-counter-clockwise. It's all the same.

 

[Ditboy]

I wonder if this foreshadows the elimination of the EOS-M line. If they're putting all their energy into the R line, it seems like it might make sense for APS-C mirrorless moving forward to be R-mount as well. It seems like there are already almost as many R lenses as their are M.

I wouldn't think they would be introducing the EF-M 32mm f1.4 or make an EF-R to EF-M adapter. I have been saying I thought the M line would eventually replace the Rebel line, and I think these actions reinforce my theory. Don't forget there are strong rumors of a M5 Mk II also.

 

[Jethro]

I wonder if this foreshadows the elimination of the EOS-M line. If they're putting all their energy into the R line, it seems like it might make sense for APS-C mirrorless moving forward to be R-mount as well. It seems like there are already almost as many R lenses as their are M.

Well, they're supposed to be releasing an M prime, so not exactly a sign of End Times.